***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Worth all 40 min watch on Wagner. Not just a merc group.

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FriscoKid said:




It's getting real now.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Livemap has a lot of good info. Says Wagner troops just miles sputh of Moscow. Russian armor on the streets of Moscow.
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McInnis 03 said:




Surely Russia won't fold faster than Afghanistan.

Right?
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What does the average Russian think about this? (Not the d-bag milblogger propogandist types)

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Wagner vs Kadyrov

Can we all agree we'd like mutual destruction here?
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Counterpoint said:

What does the average Russian think about this? (Not the d-bag milblogger propogandist types)


The average Russian probably doesn't have actual facts with which to make an informed opinion.
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Counterpoint said:

What does the average Russian think about this? (Not the d-bag milblogger propogandist types)




I guess I am a mil blogger and won't give you my answer but I am confident you will find it part way through reading the book Gulag Archipelago.
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jobu93 said:

Wagner vs Kadyrov

Can we all agree we'd like mutual destruction here?
Definitely hoping for the giant meteor
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Khodorkovksky has always opposed Putin. Putin threw him in jail and took all his money years ago because Khodorkovsky dared to oppose him.
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Sq 17 said:

jobu93 said:

Wagner vs Kadyrov

Can we all agree we'd like mutual destruction here?
Definitely hoping for the giant meteor


But what if they square off only to shake hands and join forces
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JFABNRGR said:

Best Uke troll hit piece yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/14hol74/magyar_following_situation_in_russia_with_great/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
This is professional trolling at it's finest!
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Woke up to find the massive changes in thIs thread. At first, I thought it might be a giant maskirovka to suck the Ukes in, but this is for real.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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CondensedFogAggie said:

McInnis 03 said:




Surely Russia won't fold faster than Afghanistan.

Right?


Gradually, then suddenly.
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knj2417 said:

Sq 17 said:

jobu93 said:

Wagner vs Kadyrov

Can we all agree we'd like mutual destruction here?
Definitely hoping for the giant meteor


But what if they square off only to shake hands and join forces


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Counterpoint said:

What does the average Russian think about this? (Not the d-bag milblogger propogandist types)




A friend of mine lived in Russia a few years, married a Russian woman, lives in US now, checks in with family over there a lot.

What he was told:
1. Minor misunderstanding
2. Small part of Wagner is being disruptive
3. They are mercenaries, someone likely just paid them more money

I suspect that's the Russian media story that's being pushed. At least as of last night,
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chris1515 said:

Counterpoint said:

What does the average Russian think about this? (Not the d-bag milblogger propogandist types)




A friend of mine lived in Russia a few years, married a Russian woman, lives in US now, checks in with family over there a lot.

What he was told:
1. Minor misunderstanding
2. Small part of Wagner is being disruptive
3. They are mercenaries, someone likely just paid them more money

I suspect that's the Russian media story that's being pushed. At least as of last night,


Actually, Putin has publicly said it's essentially a major coup by the Wagner leader and threatens the sovereignty and future of Russia. He hasn't downplayed it at all.
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2 hours

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I wonder what Prighozin's endgame is, once he gets to Moscow and his army is camped out in Red Square then what? Putin and his cronies aren't there so does he go to St Petersburg to hunt down Shoigun and the other guy like he said!?

Does he plan to declare himself President?
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bonfarr said:

I wonder what Prighozin's endgame is, once he gets to Moscow and his army is camped out in Red Square then what? Putin and his cronies aren't there so does he go to St Petersburg to hunt down Shoigun and the other guy like he said!?

Does he plan to declare himself President?


Absolutely.

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What's known so far.

Here's a rolling UPDATE.
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The pause that Ukraine took to "evaluate tactics". I'm putting money down the West saw this coming and allowed a release of pressure on the front, freeing up what we now see.

There likely was never a shell shortage; Wagner was stockpiling. This has been in the planning stages for months.
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