PJYoung said:

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🚨 Russia: "Multiple Defense Ministry units involved in the war are moving under Prigozhin's command. Entire corps. Shoigu and Gerasimov's commanders are being removed."

— Igor Sushko (@igorsushko) June 24, 2023

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Presents an interesting problem: to save his regime, would Putin employ tactical nukes against large Wagner and rebellious MoD formations? I am wagering he would since the small nukes would be detonated inside Russia.

Agthatbuilds said:

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This might be over in 2 or 3 days. I think you create as much chaos as you can.

Probe the lines and find out where things have weakened or their been a potential loss of the will to fight. If there is such a weakness, exploit it as quickly as possible.

Ukraine needs am edge and this is probably it

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Even if it is, the damage to the logistics and command and control will get worse by the day for weeks.

UTExan said:

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PJYoung said:

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🚨 Russia: "Multiple Defense Ministry units involved in the war are moving under Prigozhin's command. Entire corps. Shoigu and Gerasimov's commanders are being removed."

— Igor Sushko (@igorsushko) June 24, 2023

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Presents an interesting problem: to save his regime, would Putin employ tactical nukes against large Wagner and rebellious MoD formations? I am wagering he would since the small nukes would be detonated inside Russia.

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Hell no. That's suicide.

Agthatbuilds said:

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This might be over in 2 or 3 days. I think you create as much chaos as you can.

Probe the lines and find out where things have weakened or their been a potential loss of the will to fight. If there is such a weakness, exploit it as quickly as possible.

Ukraine needs am edge and this is probably it

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I dunno. It's hard to tell. Seems like half the regular military is following Prigozhin, which is a recipe for a drawn out conflict. Either not enough join and he's crushed, everyone joins and he succeeds quickly, or everything dissolves into chaos as the Russians eat themselves.

Either way, yeah, just hit them hard somewhere critical quickly. As news of this spreads, it's either going to sow absolute panic or actually lift morale. Might be best to hit the regular forces in Ukraine and run their stockpiles low if this really is an important logistical hub and their supplies could be interrupted.

Not to mention there's a non zero chance Wagner has control of or will have control of some now.

Note the Wagner military vehicles intermixed with Russian Ministry of Defence military vehicles. Russian army units have switched sides. pic.twitter.com/mlpQZBG4vE

— Igor Sushko (@igorsushko) June 24, 2023

...facility it can use to expand its reach.

Wagner also obtained all of Russia's current codes and military plans resident in that building.

Including all the contingency plans the SMD had for dealing with Wagner.

In so many words, any spies planted in Wagner and known to

2/3

— Trent Telenko (@TrentTelenko) June 24, 2023

Important Part 3 missing:

...the Southern Military District are now in Progozhin's grasp.

Putin and Shoygu have a lot more problems now than 24 hours ago.

3/3

— Trent Telenko (@TrentTelenko) June 24, 2023

Well I am clearly wrong in thinking this would be done in a week or less.

The second Wagner group popping off shows that this is a well orchestrated plan that had to take a good while to be mapped out.


What fascinates me is how the Ukes can use this. Do those Russian conscripts just stop fighting? Do the conscripts dig in and fight even harder?

Prigozhin is in Rostov with General Sergey Kuzovlev, commander of the Southern Military District. pic.twitter.com/Bfsy2bKTNR

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) June 24, 2023

Its happening gif

Apparently the Wagner group managed to seize an Mi-26 and beat the FSB out of Rostov proper according to the person who posted that video.
Anyone know where I can post a video without an account.

GarryowenAg said:

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Please let this be true/accurate. Ukraine couldn't ask for a better opportunity to mount another offensive.

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Exactly

This is utterly insane and frightening to me. While I like the idea that a civil war in Russia might allow for peace to Ukraine, the resulting instability might bring us closer to seeing some type of nuclear exchange affecting the whole world. Praying for peace.

Aaaaand the tweet's been deleted.

We are in the HQ, 7:30 AM, military objects including airfield in Rostov are under our control. Aircraft go on schedule, there are no problems. We took control to prevent air force strik at us and inster continue attacks on Ukrainians. HQ works as usual, there are no problems 1/ pic.twitter.com/xzlLCJwGvk

— Giorgi Revishvili (@revishvilig) June 24, 2023

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TRM said:

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It's 5:14 am there and sunrise is at 4:26 am

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exactly which was my comment is that has to be a simultaneous post exactly as it's happening or done hours ago.

either way, Rostov on the Don is likely too far from Moscow to allow Prigozhin to get there in one piece

unless the Russian army refuses orders to bomb him or block the roads.

still and all, Putin probably regretting some of his decisions the last year in Ukraine right now.

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Wagner has shown more competency in this so far than Russian MOD has all war. He's got their southern military district and all it's supplies and equipment before they knew what was happening. Most of his forces are still in the north so he'll provide take that quickly as well.

And he's only a couple hours from Moscow and there's only been token resistance so far.

More and more reports of movement and some very shaky first footage and some helo fighting close to Vorozezh. This city is almost halfway in between Rostov and Moscow.





Though to be fair, much of this main route seems to have roadblocks going up along the rest of the way to Moscow albeit very heavy in Vorozezh

GarryowenAg said:

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Aaaaand the tweet's been deleted.

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Yevgeny Prigozhin meeting with Russian Deputy Minister of Defense, Yunus-bek Yevkurov, Deputy Chief of Russian Military Intelligence, Lt. General Vladimir Alekseyev, and Commander of the Western Military District, General Sergey Kuzovlev at the Headquarters for the Southern… pic.twitter.com/nyjG8d8yGl

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 24, 2023

This video. I think it was deleted because some of the Russian (other than Prigozhin) was misidentified in the tweet.

FIDO95 said:

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This is utterly insane and frightening to me. While I like the idea that a civil war in Russia might allow for peace to Ukraine, the resulting instability might bring us closer to seeing some type of nuclear exchange affecting the whole world. Praying for peace.

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This is Prigozhin's march on Moscow. There's no backing down from this unless he wants to drink polonium.

JB!98 said:

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So I was explaining all of this stuff to my son through the lens of 1918, 1989, etc in Russian history. If this is happening you are watching history right before your eyes. His 15 year old mind's comment, "Dad, what the hell is Biden going to do, the guy is a moron." (please don't ban me, I actually get to a point)

Made me think. This is also a time for decisive and prudent action on the part of the US and NATO. I don't think we want this "new boss" to be running the show over there. He actually sounds worse than the "old boss."

What would you say the prudent thing for the US and NATO to do considering what is going on? I think in the chaos Ukraine is going to be able to take care of itself.

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I would just recognize whoever controls the nukes as the legitimate leader. Why intervene when you can watch and laugh?

Omonovtsy (Equivalent of SWAT or coasties DSF with military APCs) just raided Wagner HQ in St. Petersburg.
Yes, Russian police special teams get 30mm auto cannons on their apcs and automatic grenade launchers.

Gerasimov (Russian Chief of Staff) is said to be hiding in Rostov as he was in the town during the coup. Allegedly Southern MD commander (Kuznovlev) is supporting (at minimum not resisting) Prigozhin.

Wagner claim shot down 3 VVS helos. Other say two including an Mi-28N attack helo, of which only 102 were built for the VVS.

Belarus president/dictator hiding out in turkey (plane tail number B28703) after leaving Belarus at midnight local time. Looks like a real coup to me.

FighterBomber has just announced that 3 Helicopters were indeed Shot Down by Wagner PMC Forces in the Rostov and Voronezh Regions of Western Russia today, this includes 2 Mi-8MTRP-1 Electronic Warfare Helicopters which the Russian Air Force only has roughly 15 of in Total and a… pic.twitter.com/NwniSFvh4L

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 24, 2023

Putin promises to fight back:

❗️Putin: "They're pushing us to a defeat and capitulation ... a strike against Russia, our people .. our actions will be BRUTAL ... everyone who consciously went on this path will take an immediate punishment ... all departments have been instructed…

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) June 24, 2023

❗️Putin: The battle for the fate of our people against the West needs unity ... Thus, actions dividing us are a betrayal of our brothers-in-arms ... a strike to the back of our people ... like in 1917 ... when our country was divided ... We will not let this happen ... it's an… pic.twitter.com/XfJRR3UlsC

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) June 24, 2023

▪️This is a stab in the back for our country and our people

▪️I spoke to the commanders of all directions last night: the troops are fighting heroically

▪️Russia is waging a hard struggle for its future. The military machine of the West is directed against us

▪️Any internal… pic.twitter.com/aVifgwJlrM

— Maria Drutska 🇺🇦 (@maria_drutska) June 24, 2023