***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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7:16a, 4/2/23
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Apparently, Ben Hodges isn't a big fan of Pentagon planners and Milley's recent statements.

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11:17a, 4/2/23
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This is the world Putin and Xi would give us all.

JAIL, POISON OR EXILE
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11:23a, 4/2/23
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The SPD has a lot of dirty laundry when it comes to its longstanding Russia ties, and it makes Scholtz's job that much more difficult to present a unified front.

Ukraine releases plan for post-liberation Crimea.

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11:37a, 4/2/23
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Bombing in St. Petersburg. Russian milblogger dead along with over a dozen people injured.





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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:39a, 4/2/23
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Seems like a really nice guy.

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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:41a, 4/2/23
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Don't know who this blogger was but could this be a false flag to take out a mil blogger who may have been a bit too pessimistic or too pro-Wagner?
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In reply to 74OA • 11:52a, 4/2/23
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Be a shame if the Russians "captured" some tainted vodka while plundering…….
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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In reply to 74OA • 12:34p, 4/2/23
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purported video of the bombing:
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In reply to Demosthenes81 • 12:37p, 4/2/23
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That's a shame /Jerry Seinfeld
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12:48p, 4/2/23
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Western tanks (or APC's) are unlikely to perform well in Ukraine: none will have the reactive armor, or active defense systems.

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The basic idea of reactive, explosive armor is to explode when an incoming round strikes the tank. The explosion either redirects the actual incoming round, or damages it, making it ineffective. The better forms of explosive reactive armor can either break or bend a penetrator, protecting the tank. Reactive armor has to be designed so that when it explodes it does not cause injury or death to nearby infantry or to other vehicles. (A similar consideration applies to hard kill active defense systems --see below.)

The British, Germans and, especially the US long thought that their main battle tanks, designed in the 1970s and 1980s were good against most threats and did not require reactive (explosive) armor. However, Iraq and Syria changed all that, as many Abrams tanks and Leopard tanks (especially those belonging to the Turkish army) were destroyed by Russian anti-tank weapons fired by ISIS irregulars. If US and German armor could be knocked out with older ammunition using explosively formed penetrators (in the US best known as shaped charge weapons) and not DART ammunition, it was easy to see that Western tanks were at risk. The Russians immediately recognized the vulnerability of Leopard tanks to Russian antitank weapons.
It's interesting the Ukrainians are pulling reactive armor off destroyed/damaged Russian tanks and applying it to their new gear. More at the link. I had forgotten (and am not in any way an armor expert), that Abrams uses barrels/guns (M256) from Rheinmetal.
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12:54p, 4/2/23
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It's more interesting that Russia is pulling tanks out of storage that their their dead grandfathers used to drive
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In reply to B-1 83 • 1:17p, 4/2/23
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B-1 83 said:
Be a shame if the Russians "captured" some tainted vodka while plundering…….
It's good to know to read

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In reply to 74OA • 2:13p, 4/2/23
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Can't really feel bad for everyone with him either. It was a private event for his supporters.
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4:07p, 4/2/23
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Several explosions at Russian base in Melitopol this morning
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/2-april-several-explosions-at-russian-base-in-melitopol-this
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4:33p, 4/2/23
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Ukrainian Army forms new brigades

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The Armed Forces continue to grow amid the rumors of upcoming Ukrainian spring offensive.

Ukrainian command has decided to form three additional brigades to reinforce the combat capabilities of the ground forces. Two of the brigades are being formed in the structure of Ukrainian Ground Forces, while the third one is a infantry brigade in the structure of Ukrainian Air Force.

41st Mechanized Brigade is a new mechanized brigade of Ukrainian Ground forces. The formation was announced by Odesa Territorial Recruitment Center, which is part of a local military administration.

142nd Reserve Rifle Brigade is a new and the first reserve rifle brigade of the Ground Forces of Ukraine. At least one infantry battalion of the brigade has completed its basic training.

Consolidated Rifle Brigade is a new unit formed on the basis of combined detachment Wild Duck, created back in 2014. The brigade has been formed in the structure of Ukrainian Air Force, primarily from the soldiers of guard battalions.
Anyone know anything about "Wild Duck"?

https://militaryland.net/news/ukrainian-army-forms-new-brigades/
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:57p, 4/2/23
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nortex97 said:
Western tanks (or APC's) are unlikely to perform well in Ukraine: none will have the reactive armor, or active defense systems.

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The basic idea of reactive, explosive armor is to explode when an incoming round strikes the tank. The explosion either redirects the actual incoming round, or damages it, making it ineffective. The better forms of explosive reactive armor can either break or bend a penetrator, protecting the tank. Reactive armor has to be designed so that when it explodes it does not cause injury or death to nearby infantry or to other vehicles. (A similar consideration applies to hard kill active defense systems --see below.)

The British, Germans and, especially the US long thought that their main battle tanks, designed in the 1970s and 1980s were good against most threats and did not require reactive (explosive) armor. However, Iraq and Syria changed all that, as many Abrams tanks and Leopard tanks (especially those belonging to the Turkish army) were destroyed by Russian anti-tank weapons fired by ISIS irregulars. If US and German armor could be knocked out with older ammunition using explosively formed penetrators (in the US best known as shaped charge weapons) and not DART ammunition, it was easy to see that Western tanks were at risk. The Russians immediately recognized the vulnerability of Leopard tanks to Russian antitank weapons.
It's interesting the Ukrainians are pulling reactive armor off destroyed/damaged Russian tanks and applying it to their new gear. More at the link. I had forgotten (and am not in any way an armor expert), that Abrams uses barrels/guns (M256) from Rheinmetal.


There is some truth to this and some misinformation. Western tanks have always been vulnerable to hits in the right locations where armor is thinner conventional rolled steel or thin composite, in an attempt to save weight, and allow for armor to be much heavier elsewhere. The frontal armor in a leopard 2 or Challenger 2 or abrams is extremely thick with composite layers and of good quality manufacture and does not require explosive reactive armor to do it's job and stop both kinetic and heat warheads.

The sides and top and rear are thinner and it will be vulnerable to modern ATGM, and that is where ER tiles can help. Early ones only broke up heat warhead jets and explosive formed projectiles warheads and limited their penetration but later more advanced ones could fire their own explosive armored panel off into a penetrator and bend or redirect it so if loses some penetration ability.

It is useful to an extent and especially if engaging with infantry with hand held anti armor weapons in tight or urban environments. The western tanks that have been lost in such combat were due to poor tactical deployment without coordination with infantry to suppress the enemy AT infantry, and exposed their vulnerable sides and rear to enemy missiles.

Western tanks are next to invulnerable face on and nearly so quarter on due to the angled thickness of the armor, and they have superior optics and first shot kill capability, and the 120mm APFSDS can pretty much still penetrate even the best reactive armor at first hit shot range. They have to be fought properly in order to use their advantages while minimizing their vulnerability.
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5:13a, 4/3/23
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Via hot air.com;

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It's time to check back in on the economic warfare being waged against Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine. One of the early goals in this effort was to cripple Russia's economy by cutting off the country's access to global fossil fuel markets. The problem is that many countries failed to go along with the plan and Russia has found new markets where it sells its crude oil and natural gas. Now they have another customer in the form of Japan, which "negotiated" to step out of a European price cap of $60 per barrel for Russian oil. Japan will pay a higher price to obtain the oil they need. And it turns out that the White House approved the deal. (Wall Street Journal, subscription required)
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China remains the largest buyer of Russian oil and natural gas, but India has greatly expanded its own imports. They are now the second largest importer of Russian oil. The success of the sanctions and economic warfare intended to force Russia out of Ukraine depended on massive global participation.

While many NATO countries are participating and some effects have been seen, it hasn't been nearly enough to significantly move Moscow off its game plan. This led CNBC to conclude last monththat the strategy of sanctions has "failed completely." I don't know if I would go that far in describing it, but we clearly haven't brought about the collapse of the Russian economy that was originally predicted. And these policies have brought economic pain to America and the west as well.
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8:27a, 4/3/23
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Thanks for the update comrade.

Meanwhile Russias ability to repair or build new armor is at a near standstill as they do not have enough ball bearings or advanced electrical components.

They're now rolling T55s.

Sounds like it's working.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/02/17/the-russian-army-could-run-out-of-tanks-in-a-few-years-what-happens-then/?sh=7833b05e2061


"Russia widened its war in Ukraine with a front-line force of around 2,500 T-90, T-80 and T-72 tanks. In a year of hard fighting, it has lost no fewer than 1,600 of them.

The Kremlin has ordered tank-makers Uralvagonzavod and Omsktransmash to make good those losses, but there are limits to what they can accomplish.

The companies at present lack the capacity and components for large-scale production of new tanks. And there are only so many old tanks in long-term storage that the firms economically can recover and restore for front-line use.

Uralvagonzavod in Sverdlovsk Oblast, in southeast Russia, builds new T-72B3 and T-90M tanks, but slowly. According to Novaya Gazeta, the Russian defense industry currently produces no more than 250 new tanks a year.
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In reply to AlaskanAg99 • 10:35a, 4/3/23
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Meanwhile, just over the border in next door Romania, Rheinmetall has set up a maintenance center to service western armor donated to Ukraine. Will return more vehicles to the fight far quicker.

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11:28a, 4/3/23
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Here's the grim extended conclusion to that Ukrainian tank assault on a Russian trench line.

BURIED
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In reply to Rossticus • 11:30a, 4/3/23
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I'm not an expert at all, but does anyone else think this seemed like a rather large explosion compared to the size of that gift? Kinda thinking the explosion originated from something else.
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In reply to Touchless • 11:41a, 4/3/23
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Not really. Doesn't take much to produce results like that in an enclosed space.
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 11:47a, 4/3/23
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1lb of C4 can blow up a car
Put it in a confined sealed metal space and it'll build up pressure

It'll probably takes less than 2lbs to blow up a single family house
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In reply to theJonatron • 11:50a, 4/3/23
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Ya I imagine it doesn't take much over pressure to blow out a glass wall like that.
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In reply to theJonatron • 11:57a, 4/3/23
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theJonatron said:
1lb of C4 can blow up a car
Put it in a confined sealed metal space and it'll build up pressure

It'll probably takes less than 2lbs to blow up a single family house
And yet Hitler had the lives of 10 cats and survived every damn attempt.
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 12:05p, 4/3/23
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RebelE Infantry said:
Not really. Doesn't take much to produce results like that in an enclosed space.
Interesting. Seeing explosions constantly (mostly grenade related which are a lot smaller than the gift obviously), this just seemed like a lot of damage for something that appeared smaller.
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In reply to AgLA06 • 12:35p, 4/3/23
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AgLA06 said:
theJonatron said:
1lb of C4 can blow up a car
Put it in a confined sealed metal space and it'll build up pressure

It'll probably takes less than 2lbs to blow up a single family house
And yet Hitler had the lives of 10 cats and survived every damn attempt.


C4 wasn't made until mid 50s
Explosives have come a long way
but yeah he was really lucky in the 40plus attempts on his life
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