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Maybe?

docb said:

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Maybe?

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That info smells like Clovis, NM.

Milley never ceases to underwhelm me with his personal opinions.

Surprisingly linear thinking...no need to "kick out all Russians". Liberate Crimea and most of the Russian conscripts sitting in trenches across Donbas won't matter. Crimea is decisive.

Very Hard for Ukraine to 'Kick Out' All Russians: Top US General https://t.co/Aziw6znsXw

— Ben Hodges (@general_ben) March 23, 2023

Don't typically like the guy but he is not wrong, for several reasons there are a lot Russians in the east and Crimea. You can militarily kick them out but a lot of the citizens have been there from the 90s or earlier that still consider themselves Russian

The DPR and LPR troops are also examples of not a true military, more like Russian militias in Ukraine

LMCane said:

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anyone else find it ironically hilarious that the most effective Russian commander...

looks like a retired librarian?

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Not at all, US military history is full of former teachers and educators making significant battlefield contributions.

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Today's SITREP. Sevastopol attacked by sea and air.

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More detail on the seaborne portion of the attack.

DRONES

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This write up confirms what I was thinking…that a swarm of drones would be much harder to defend against. But if true that the Orcs used machine guns to take out the Naval drones, then it definitely implies a lack of sophistication in their defenses.

Imagine if a Naval drone could be made to dive to a specific depth below surface as it approaches the marina (to avoid detection), then resurface at the last minute right before impact. Try hitting something like that with machine guns.

A harbor net would keep out submersible drones

But it has to be up at all times. Gonna need to open it up for traffic pretty consistently.

Not a new problem. It was done during WWII, and probably even during WWI. A tug is stationed at the harbor entrance with the job of opening and closing the net.

A couple of thoughts…

First, do we think the Orcs currently have a harbor net in place? Because if not, submersible drones have potential. Second, if there is a net…what's to stop the drone from gliding over it then submerging or an even more out of the box capability would be to have the drone be able to accelerate and launch out of the water enough to clear the net, then dive.

The fact that the Ukes have shown they can actually reach and threaten the harbor is a big deal. They just need to figure out how to get some creative drone design that can get to the targets.

And what a site that would be if the Ruskies woke up to ships listing or ablaze in the harbor.

The nets typically have a floating boom on the top so there really isn't a way to glide over the top. Jumping a net would take a ton of power and these drones are optimized for payload size and range. Efficiency (range) means moving slowly and having a relatively long narrow hull shape. Imagine trying to jump a 30ft long jet-ski that has a top speed of 12 mph.

LMCane said:

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well this certainly sounds both strange and interesting...

Russian forces have left the town of Nova Kakhovka in the southern Kherson region, the Ukrainian military's General Staff said on Thursday.

"As of 22nd March 2023, all units of the occupying army that had been deployed in the town of Nova Kakhovka in Kherson region, have left the city," the General Staff said in its evening report outlining conditions on the front lines.

The town is located on the east bank of the Dnipro River, where Russian forces redeployed last November after abandoning positions on the west bank in the face of a counter-offensive by Ukrainian troops.

The report said Russian troops had stolen appliances, valuables, clothing and mobile telephones from nearby houses as they departed.

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Per Dennis, apparently this wasn't the Russians abandoning the town. There was a misunderstanding about a troop rotation. Start at 9:34:

Today's SITREP.

Film of drone boat jumping the harbor's boom defense?

lb3 said:

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The nets typically have a floating boom on the top so there really isn't a way to glide over the top. Jumping a net would take a ton of power and these drones are optimized for payload size and range. Efficiency (range) means moving slowly and having a relatively long narrow hull shape. Imagine trying to jump a 30ft long jet-ski that has a top speed of 12 mph.

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Understood. Thanks lb3, good points.

Smeghead4761 said:

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Not a new problem. It was done during WWII, and probably even during WWI. A tug is stationed at the harbor entrance with the job of opening and closing the net.

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Yeah, but it means you're still going to be consistently open. Look at the Italians and Alexandria. They got their submersibles in while the nets were open for traffic.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Smeghead4761 said:

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Not a new problem. It was done during WWII, and probably even during WWI. A tug is stationed at the harbor entrance with the job of opening and closing the net.

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Yeah, but it means you're still going to be consistently open. Look at the Italians and Alexandria. They got their submersibles in while the nets were open for traffic.

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I would think with the help from us the drones could just loiter in the area and go in when we see the nets open like when a ship is leaving or going in?

docb said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Smeghead4761 said:

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Not a new problem. It was done during WWII, and probably even during WWI. A tug is stationed at the harbor entrance with the job of opening and closing the net.

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Yeah, but it means you're still going to be consistently open. Look at the Italians and Alexandria. They got their submersibles in while the nets were open for traffic.

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I would think with the help from us the drones could just loiter in the area and go in when we see the nets open like when a ship is leaving or going in?

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These naval drones are carrying large warheads and move slowly. That means you can't park them 10 miles away and wait for the tug to open the harbor. They would be observed, even at night, if parked a few hundred meters from the nets waiting for a ship to enter or exit.

A submersible naval drone wouldn't be observed but would consume a lot of power loitering near the nets. The reasoning is that the submersible version would need to maintain some small positive buoyancy in order to not have to build in complex ballast tanks, pneumatics, and control systems. It would then use its forward motion to provide the downward force on its bow planes to dive and remain submerged.

Works well when on the move but stop moving and it would float back to the surface and be visible again. Loitering near the nets for a few hours would consume a lot of power trying to stay submerged and would reduce the range of the drones which is likely already stretched to its limit.

Ukraine Emerges from Winter: To help repair and strengthen damaged heating networks, the US delivered more than 70 kilometers of steel heating pipes & 60 excavators to 48 Ukrainian cities. USAID-provided energy repair helped ensure heat & hot water for up to 7 million Ukrainians. pic.twitter.com/MmQj5SppNq

— Samantha Power (@PowerUSAID) March 23, 2023

Nasty little close-in fight.

[Sensetive]
Brutal video from K2 in the Verkhn'okam'yans'ke area shows danger close artillery, point blank impacts and intense fighting. pic.twitter.com/GeZI8t2uVr

— Def Mon (@DefMon3) March 24, 2023

Why no fire for effect? Are the tubes spread out so far apart?

Look forward to seeing some analysis of this from the mil types here....

I think with drone spotting and correction, both sides are trying to preserve ammunition where they can, and minimize counter battery threat.

Wagner PMC killed 9 Chinese in a mine in the CAR.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/witnesses-accuse-russias-wagner-group-of-killing-9-chinese-miners-in-central-african-republic

If Putin is worrying about Prizoghin getting too political, this could be the pretext he could use to feed him to Russia's Chinese puppet masters.

Jetpilot86 said:

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Look forward to seeing some analysis of this from the mil types here....

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Not much to say really I think. This to me just screams lack of training and small unit leadership. As nasty as a thing it is, assaulting an enemy held trench is literally infantry 101 and they committed the gravest error you could ever do. They allowed themselves to pinned by pretty weak small arms fire in the open. This war has a hallmark of accurate artillery fire and the Russians failed to maintain a good pace of advance. And then most died and were wounded without taking the objective anyways.

There was a flanking attempt and good on the Russians for that I guess but the plan simply took too long to develop, probably simply through bad execution, and those first couple of arty blasts stopped that flanking maneuver flat.

This is fantastic footage of what not having violence of action and proper small unit training can do to an attacking force. Taking a trench sucks and you are probably going to die anyways but at least up the chances of taking the damned thing first and save the next group of grunts from worrying about it. Proper fire and maneuver from a well trained squad would have had some of the Russians at least on top of the Ukes in short order. Which is about the best you can ask for in those situations.

Jetpilot86 said:

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Look forward to seeing some analysis of this from the mil types here....

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Thank God for Fire Support. The Ukes in the trench owe the spotter and the arty crew a cold beer for sure.

Danger close with a couple of air bursts is like DANGER CLOSE!

Russians had a decent plan on their attack it was just executed poorly. Small team on the right and larger one in the front. Typically one acts as supporting fire to keep the defenders heads down and from returning fire while the other group assaults through. Needs to be coordinate lift and shift of fire based off of precordinated signal. Smoke, whistle flare, etc. The larger force had several RPG/AT4 types weapons but it looks like they only got one shot off.

That one direct hit changed the momentum completely wounding on my count 7 which appeared to be about half the force.

My question is HOW did they get so close? Fire mission should have been called in long time ago.

To the other question yes Ukes and now orcs mostly using 1-2 tubes only to avoid counter battery etc.

Thanks. I was trying to figure out what was supposed to happen, the plan, vs the s***show that occurred. Appreciate the explanation.

Thanks. I knew it ended bad for the Orcs, but I had no idea what it was supposed to look like when it started...

Jetpilot86 said:

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Thanks. I knew it ended bad for the Orcs, but I had no idea what it was supposed to look like when it started...

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I remember that in WWI and WWII that geophones were used to locate artillery locations. Are they still employed for general location to send drones for more precise coordinates.

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Thanks. I knew it ended bad for the Orcs, but I had no idea what it was supposed to look like when it started...

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I remember that in WWI and WWII that geophones were used to locate artillery locations. Are they still employed for general location to send drones for more precise coordinates.

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Within the last 20 pages or so it has been mentioned that the Orcs have Audio Artillery locating devices as well as radar, but the radar ones are vulnerable to anti-radar attacks. IIRC

Russian soldiers from the "Storm" unit, consisting of both convicts (and likely some mobilised), formed by Russian MoD, published a video revealing they were purposefully sent into slaughter during the assault of Vodyane while blocking units prevented their retreat. The unit… pic.twitter.com/J3citHJOpQ

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) March 24, 2023

All other Aircraft except for “DREAD011” appear to have Gone Dark now with him appearing to be Cruising across the Black Sea. pic.twitter.com/ZP66BCoGRd

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 24, 2023

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Damn. Brits escorting their drones over the Black Sea now.

All other Aircraft except for “DREAD011” appear to have Gone Dark now with him appearing to be Cruising across the Black Sea. pic.twitter.com/ZP66BCoGRd

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 24, 2023

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The Rivet Joint is a manned aircraft. An adaptation of the KC-135 tanker.