If their lips are moving, then...... IRAN

LMCane said:

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MOSCOW A Russian warplane crashed into a residential building in the Siberian city of Irkutsk Sunday, killing both crewmembers, regional authorities said.

There was no immediate information on casualties on the ground.

Irkutsk Gov. Igor Kobzev said the plane came down on a two-story building in the city.

The local branch of Russia's Emergencies Ministry said the Su-30 fighter jet crashed during a training flight and fell on a two-story wooden building, sparking a fire.

Videos posted on social networks from surveillance cameras showed the building engulfed by flames and firefighters deployed to extinguish the blaze.

The crash came less than a week after another Russian warplane crashed near an apartment building in the Sea of Azov port of Yeysk and exploded in a giant fireball, killing 15 and injuring another 19.

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Is this the one posted about earlier where they had a chase plane look into the cockpit and saw that the crew had passed out?

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If Russia uses one, tactically speaking where would it even make sense? Within Kherson? Melitipol? Luhansk? Operationally speaking it only thwarts their ability to advance and even if they had one it would only be useful in defensive measures.

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To my mind, if I am thinking like the Red team, within Kherson is the most likely spot. Especially if you can time it for the wind moving east to west. Damage Kherson make it difficult to occupy, possibly damage logistics routes into the city. Plus you dont have to lob it in a missile that could get shot down and can be tracked on radar. Anywhere else? Maybe near Zaza north of Melitopol. But Donbass would be an S show. If you use in Kherson you have a nice natural barrier in the river to use. The logistics of keeping a force sustained inside Kherson while inside artillery range make that a losing proposition. Set it off. Point fingers. Use a nuke in response. Then call on China or India to negotiate a cease fire or peace treaty.

aezmvp said:

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Ag In Ok said:

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If Russia uses one, tactically speaking where would it even make sense? Within Kherson? Melitipol? Luhansk? Operationally speaking it only thwarts their ability to advance and even if they had one it would only be useful in defensive measures.

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To my mind, if I am thinking like the Red team, within Kherson is the most likely spot. Especially if you can time it for the wind moving east to west. Damage Kherson make it difficult to occupy, possibly damage logistics routes into the city. Plus you dont have to lob it in a missile that could get shot down and can be tracked on radar. Anywhere else? Maybe near Zaza north of Melitopol. But Donbass would be an S show. If you use in Kherson you have a nice natural barrier in the river to use. The logistics of keeping a force sustained inside Kherson while inside artillery range make that a losing proposition. Set it off. Point fingers. Use a nuke in response. Then call on China or India to negotiate a cease fire or peace treaty.

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Yeah, Kherson most likely. Orcs might also consider going for the head/heart and hitting Kyiv - but that would be near impossible to sell as a false flag operation and more likely to be their "response" target afterwards. 2 for 1 so to speak, then its all over if NATO lets it be over. If not...well let's just say worrying about heat this winter in Europe will become a different sort of problem.

sclaff said:

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The Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant is reportedly mined.

If confirmed by Ukrainian intelligence, I would think that the plant would have to be secured and neutralized before a large scale offensive is launched toward Tokmak and Melitopol. Any conjecture how that willl be accomplished?

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Zaporizhya is somewhat isolated to invading forces without large scale air & sea capabilities, forcing Ukraine to go through Tokmak or Nova Kakhovka first and likely at the same time. I don't think they have a choice unless some crazy operation like "Raid on Entebbe" is conducted with success, but even then you need the M-14, T-22-09 and M18 routes anyway which run between those cities.

Tough battles still ahead while your working to restore and protect power over the entire country.

I'm not buying it. All the signs like cutting communication means etc. point to it. So I doubt it. Plus that eventually hurts Russia's ability to keep a land bridge to the east.

I could see Odesa, but not Khersion.

Rossticus said:

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Russia provides "information" that is clearly bullisht (see previous post of Russia's leaked "evidence"). Everyone rolls their eyes and calls out Russia.

Russia:

“Their [the NATO countries’] disbelief of the information that was handed over by the Russian side does not mean that the threat of using a dirty bomb ceases to exist. The threat is clear,” Peskov said.

— Apex (@Apex_WW) October 24, 2022

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If Ukraine had a dirty bomb or nuclear weapon, Russia would never have invaded

AgLA06 said:

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I'm not buying it. All the signs like cutting communication means etc. point to it. So I doubt it. Plus that eventually hurts Russia's ability to keep a land bridge to the east.

I could see Odesa, but not Khersion.

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Russia is trying to sell this as a false flag operation...not sure you can sell that story with Odesa either. What would be "Ukraine's" motive for that?

Gordo14 said:

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Rossticus said:

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Russia provides "information" that is clearly bullisht (see previous post of Russia's leaked "evidence"). Everyone rolls their eyes and calls out Russia.

Russia:

“Their [the NATO countries’] disbelief of the information that was handed over by the Russian side does not mean that the threat of using a dirty bomb ceases to exist. The threat is clear,” Peskov said.

— Apex (@Apex_WW) October 24, 2022

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If Ukraine had a dirty bomb or nuclear weapon, Russia would never have invaded

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Which is why Putin needs to really be careful about getting in bed with Iran and pissing off the Israelis....because Ukraine might find one accidentally dropped into their possession.

AgLA06 said:

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I'm not buying it. All the signs like cutting communication means etc. point to it. So I doubt it. Plus that eventually hurts Russia's ability to keep a land bridge to the east.

I could see Odesa, but not Khersion.

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How are they reliably going to get it to Odessa? There are lots of air defenses all along the coast. I think you're going to have serious issues if it gets shot down. I think for it to be an effective false flag you have to do it on Russian territory. Then you blow the bridges and nuke UAF forces somewhere. Hitting a civilian center/control point like Kyiv would be possible but crazy. I can think of 4 or 5 points better suited, lower civvy casualties, more logistical and military benefit. Nuking Kyiv would ensure a massive response from the West and maybe others. Just based on civilian casualties. Nuking a lightly inhabited town that has highway and rail intersections on key supply lanes with supply and ammo dumps and reserve formations and air defenses is much more likely to be immediately helpful on the battlefield and draw a lesser response than nuking a European capital. You nuke a capital and you see a whole lot of knock on consequences you can't control.

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Gordo14 said:

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Rossticus said:

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Russia provides "information" that is clearly bullisht (see previous post of Russia's leaked "evidence"). Everyone rolls their eyes and calls out Russia.

Russia:

“Their [the NATO countries’] disbelief of the information that was handed over by the Russian side does not mean that the threat of using a dirty bomb ceases to exist. The threat is clear,” Peskov said.

— Apex (@Apex_WW) October 24, 2022

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If Ukraine had a dirty bomb or nuclear weapon, Russia would never have invaded

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Which is why Putin needs to really be careful about getting in bed with Iran and pissing off the Israelis....because Ukraine might find one accidentally dropped into their possession.

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Doubtful. If anything they'd do what they did with South Africa and Taiwan and help them develop one after the war is over though.

bonfarr said:

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The threat is probably remote but I bought some iodine pills off Amazon just in case.

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We did this back in April. I still think the probability is basically zero but it's cheap peace of mind.

Moscow threatening Russian arms manufacturers if they don't deliver. With sanctions biting hard now, not sure how they can get enough parts, particularly electronics, to keep up the pace.

ARRESTS

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Moscow threatening Russian arms manufacturers if they don't deliver. With sanctions biting hard now, not sure how they can get enough parts, particularly electronics, to keep up the pace.

ARRESTS

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Are the suppliers supposed to eat sand and then crap him his IC chips?

https://t.co/im2goXeDHJ

— Def Mon (@DefMon3) October 24, 2022

You'll know it is really bad when Russian conscripts start showing up in the field with actual gear made by former Soviet client states or customers.

Russia has a lot of equipment yet but it can't throw everything at Ukraine and leave its borders undefended or other puppet or allied states unintimidated.

Additional photo of the damaged railroad tracks in the Bryansk Oblast of Russia. pic.twitter.com/Wbmhu8ugi8

— Status-6 (@Archer83Able) October 24, 2022

France warns of the danger to the world from allowing Russia to succeed. WARS

Also, radiological hazards are far less lethal than most people think.

— Dan Kaszeta 🇺🇦🇱🇹 (@DanKaszeta) October 24, 2022

Oooops. Russia makes accusations, Ukraine immediately invites the IAEA in to check it out. Lol.

IAEA preparing to inspect two sites in Ukraine over 'dirty bomb' claims https://t.co/7an6h4gjQC

— Apex (@Apex_WW) October 24, 2022

Good discussion of the dirty bomb scare. THREAT

Rossticus said:

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How it's going…

Russian reinforcements in the form of the D-1 cannon of the 1943 model are already rushing to the front (🎵) pic.twitter.com/4E4qNmJBot

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 23, 2022

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#Ukraine: Yesterday a video appeared allegedly showing "Russian troops transporting an ancient D-1 howitzer" - that's not true.

We tracked down the source- it was posted by a Ukrainian soldier and doesn't show a D-1, but a Ukrainian M-46 130mm field gun, donated by Croatia. pic.twitter.com/wqGe97xbAN

— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) October 24, 2022

Still funny. And they do look similar so easy mistake to have made. Thanks to the Russian weapons trackers for jumping up to correct that critical oversight.

Though D-1 howitzers were already spotted in the hands of Russian forces in Ukraine, there is no need to spread misinformation.https://t.co/6jZ0A19zto pic.twitter.com/VaXNwQd8SN

— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) October 24, 2022

Rossticus said:

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Still funny.

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Indeed

Russia really trying to dial up the nuclear terror now. Must really feel that their back is against the wall with regard to conventional military success.

Russia doesn't WANT (and won't) go nuclear, IMO, because then they don't have that card to pull as leverage. Russia is a bully, not a bear. They make big threats and pick on the kids in the shallow end of the pool. They're in over their heads and they know it but Putin still can't manage to accept less than a full victory that results in the end of Ukraine as a viable autonomous state.

Russia urges West to exert influence on Ukraine, calls on Guterres to 'prevent this heinous crime from happening' - letter

— Apex (@Apex_WW) October 24, 2022

⚡️The President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyi, has appointed a new head of the Kyiv Military Administration.

Mykola Zhyrnov will be replaced by Serhii Popko, ex-commander of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (in 2016-2019).

👉Follow@Flash_news_ua pic.twitter.com/QgUMp36oYx

— FLASH (@Flash_news_ua) October 24, 2022

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3rd Russian Ka-52 helicopter was shot down in Beryslav district of Kherson region today at 21:30, - Ukrainian Air Forces

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/24-october-3rd-russian-ka52-helicopter-was-shot-down-in-beryslav

A little recap of what's happened in Kherson oblast recently.

⚡️ Defense Ministry: Ukraine liberates over 90 settlements in Kherson Oblast.

The population of these settlements exceeds 12,000 people, the Defense Ministry reported on Oct. 24. "Stabilization measures are implemented" in liberated villages and towns, it stated.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) October 24, 2022

This is what "Russian peace" leaves behind. A liberated village in Kharkiv region. Now exists only on the map... pic.twitter.com/hwV1nhf6sE

— ТРУХА⚡️English (@TpyxaNews) October 24, 2022

Interesting.

The Teledyne Flir Black Hornet mini-drone is already in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine pic.twitter.com/rq6BOqWASx

— ТРУХА⚡️English (@TpyxaNews) October 24, 2022

https://www.flir.com/products/black-hornet-prs/?vertical=uas-norway&segment=uis

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The Black Hornet PRS equips the non-specialist dismounted soldier with immediate covert situational awareness (SA). Game-changing EO and IR technology bridges the gap between aerial and ground-based sensors, with the same SA as a larger UAV and threat location capabilities of UGVs. Extremely light, nearly silent, and with a flight time up to 25 minutes, the combat-proven, pocket-sized Black Hornet PRS transmits live video and HD still images back to the operator. Sold to qualified purchasers.

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Footage of a Polish-made AHS Krab 155mm self-propelled howitzer operated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in action near Bakhmut in the Donetsk Oblast, with a rare look inside the vehicle. pic.twitter.com/k62zFcWy6q

— Status-6 (@Archer83Able) October 24, 2022