PJYoung said:

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

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Some reports from local Irkutsk media that the commandant is still alive. This is video of him being carried to a stretcher. pic.twitter.com/l8dOKZ77Zx

— Andrew Roth (@Andrew__Roth) September 26, 2022

First reaction: Holy *****
Second reaction: Well what did you expect, Putin?

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My reaction: It's ALREADY snowing????????

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Seems like a great time to mobilize +300,000 men with minimal training and transport them to an active theater.

PJYoung said:

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

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Some reports from local Irkutsk media that the commandant is still alive. This is video of him being carried to a stretcher. pic.twitter.com/l8dOKZ77Zx

— Andrew Roth (@Andrew__Roth) September 26, 2022

First reaction: Holy *****
Second reaction: Well what did you expect, Putin?

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My reaction: It's ALREADY snowing????????

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LOL I thought the same and then I thought about just how far north they are.

Colorado had the first snow of the season a couple of weeks ago. We live in a miserably hot place most of the year! Kind of hard for us to imagine the weather not being there but I'm sure the rain and the cold are already effecting the battle plans over there. The rain has for sure.

False flag?

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MOSCOW (AP) A gunman opened fire in a school in central Russia on Monday, killing 15 people and wounding 24 others before shooting himself dead, authorities said.
The shooting took place in School No. 88 in Izhevsk, a city 960 kilometers (600 miles) east of Moscow in the Udmurtia region.
Russia's Investigative Committee identified the gunman as 34-year-old Artyom Kazantsev, a graduate of the same school, and said he was wearing a black t-shirt bearing "Nazi symbols". No details about his motives have been released.
The Committee said 15 people, including 11 children, were killed in the shooting, and 24 other people, including 22 children, were wounded in the attack.

The governor of Udmurtia, Alexander Brechalov, said the gunman, who he said was registered as a patient at a psychiatric facility, killed himself after the attack.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov described the shooting as "a terrorist act" and said Russian President Vladimir Putin has given all the necessary orders to the relevant authorities.
"President Putin deeply mourns deaths of people and children in the school, where a terrorist act took place," Peskov told reporters Monday.
The school educates children between grades one and 11. It has been evacuated and the area around it has been cordoned off, the governor said.
Russia's National Guard said Kazantsev used two non-lethal handguns adapted to fire real bullets. The guns were not registered with the authorities.
A criminal probe into the incident has been launched on charges of multiple murder and illegal possession of firearms.
Izhevsk, a city of 640,000, is located west of the Ural mountains in central Russia.

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A criminal probe into the incident has been launched on charges of multiple murder and illegal possession of firearms.

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Leave it to Russia to prosecute a dead guy.

EastSideAg2002 said:

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False flag?

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MOSCOW (AP) A gunman opened fire in a school in central Russia on Monday, killing 15 people and wounding 24 others before shooting himself dead, authorities said.
The shooting took place in School No. 88 in Izhevsk, a city 960 kilometers (600 miles) east of Moscow in the Udmurtia region.
Russia's Investigative Committee identified the gunman as 34-year-old Artyom Kazantsev, a graduate of the same school, and said he was wearing a black t-shirt bearing "Nazi symbols". No details about his motives have been released.
The Committee said 15 people, including 11 children, were killed in the shooting, and 24 other people, including 22 children, were wounded in the attack.

The governor of Udmurtia, Alexander Brechalov, said the gunman, who he said was registered as a patient at a psychiatric facility, killed himself after the attack.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov described the shooting as "a terrorist act" and said Russian President Vladimir Putin has given all the necessary orders to the relevant authorities.
"President Putin deeply mourns deaths of people and children in the school, where a terrorist act took place," Peskov told reporters Monday.
The school educates children between grades one and 11. It has been evacuated and the area around it has been cordoned off, the governor said.
Russia's National Guard said Kazantsev used two non-lethal handguns adapted to fire real bullets. The guns were not registered with the authorities.
A criminal probe into the incident has been launched on charges of multiple murder and illegal possession of firearms.
Izhevsk, a city of 640,000, is located west of the Ural mountains in central Russia.

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Another play out of Clancy's playbook. Now the state will make a huge production out of mourning the children of Pskov...err I mean Izhevsk and calling for national vengeance against the country that sent the terrorist who killed them (obviously Ukraine, right? /s).

Girkin explains how the only direction where Russians are currently advancing, the Bakhmut direction, is completely pointless since they are being flanked by Ukrainians in the north of the so-called LPR. pic.twitter.com/xqZs0sMX7C

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) September 26, 2022

Nice get. Kupyansk-Uzlovoi and Kupyansk are both critical rail crossroads and railyards. Only one other northern rail line into Russia remaining through Troitske about 25 miles east of the front lines.

CondensedFoggyAggie said:

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Some reports from local Irkutsk media that the commandant is still alive. This is video of him being carried to a stretcher. pic.twitter.com/l8dOKZ77Zx

— Andrew Roth (@Andrew__Roth) September 26, 2022

First reaction: Holy *****
Second reaction: Well what did you expect, Putin?

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Surprised this hasn't happened more, but this may be the act that opens the flood gates.

Geez, how many men is that?

Edit: Google says it's 130-150 men depending on troop type.

Russians enter Georgia 2008

Russians enter Georgia 2022 pic.twitter.com/N2ZV9PhVk4

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 25, 2022

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Geez, how many men is that?

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About 130-150 at full strength.

Russians sent a 21-year-old conscript to fight in Ukraine. In a call to his parents, they reveal they had no idea.

Frankly, he got lucky he's still alive. pic.twitter.com/bBXNfNv6rn

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) September 26, 2022

Why torture the parents like that? As a parent I can't imagine going through that.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a41298207/western-tanks-could-be-sent-to-ukraine/
I think this may be more of a reality. It sure looks like Ukraine is going to prevail in this war so I think the rationale for these tanks will be a future deterrent. They may not be NATO but it would be wise to arm them as such when this is all done.

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lobopride said:

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Why torture the parents like that? As a parent I can't imagine going through that.

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As the Ukrainian said: "Well, your son came to kill our people." This phone call serves serves to divide the Russian people and any damage done to the parents is far less than that done by the son. Besides, at least the son gets to speak to his parents and let them know he is relatively ok.

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In one of his other videos.
Mom: what is going to happen to my son?
Interviewer: Well the worse thing that is going to happen to him is he is going to fat. We actually feed your son unlike your army.

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Considering Russians are castrating some Ukrainian POW's, this is pretty majestic behavior. I'm not saying there isn't bad treatment of Russian POW's going on, but the entire country is off the chart livid.

Unrest is spreading in Dagestan as people protest against mobilisation into the Russian army. This is a dangerous moment for the Putin regimepic.twitter.com/SjDWlhwIVY

— Business Ukraine mag (@Biz_Ukraine_Mag) September 26, 2022

#Dagestan republic, russia. #NoWar protests against #mobilization - clashes with police. #Dagestani became the only region that openly protested against the forceful #MobilizationInRussia pic.twitter.com/vVAHcOwzYK

— Save Ukrainian Souls (@galcpmedia) September 26, 2022

If I'm Ukraine, I want tactical and short range nukes. Takes away Russia's threat. Nuke us? Moscow's gonna glow at night.

I know the world doesn't want that, but it stops any thought of it from Russia's side.

Here is an interesting thread on the more esoteric vehicles being used in the war. From state of the art tanks to a Maxim machine gun on a Wagon.

The open conflict between Russia and Ukraine which started on February 24 has seen a number of uncommon vehicles, from prototypes or rare production vehicles to field conversions, used and even lost. This thread will attempt to list and classify some of them.

— Tanks Encyclopedia (@tanksenc) March 22, 2022

Russia is threatening with nukes as deterrent since their conventional forces are so strained. That's as much to remind their domestic population that they have that power and are some degree of superpower for morale purposes as anything, and to subtly discourage anyone else from making moves against Russia itself. They don't have a doctrine of using them in offensive war fighting. The only potential complication is very specifically how they treat these referendums for Luhansk and Donetsk, but Russia hasn't done anything to indicate a strategic or tactical posturing towards using any type of nuclear arsenal.

Mobilization may be the straw that breaks the Russian economy's back.

"In Russia's poorer regions like Buryatia, the economic consequences will be disastrous, as "thousands of families will be left without income, and local medium and small businesses will simply die out," Inozemtsev wrote. Russia will also lose at minimum hundreds of thousands of men to the war's frontline, and 3 to 4 million more will "disappear" from the labor market," he wrote."

Here's Hoping

Video of massive border traffic backup at the 1-minute mark.

JAM

Tell me why this wouldn't work as I am clearly not an attorney or a politician.

The Budapest Memorandum is the treaty whereby Ukraine and a couple of other Russian Republics gave up their nukes. Russia was a signatory. Their part of the treaty was they agreed to recognize Ukrainian sovereignty. Clearly that didn't happen. Instead of a violation of the treaty, could the treaty be voided? Give Ukraine back their nukes and go back to square one. Putin then has a whole new set of considerations before he does something else crazy.

SPF250 said:

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Tell me why this wouldn't work as I am clearly not an attorney or a politician.

The Budapest Memorandum is the treaty whereby Ukraine and a couple of other Russian Republics gave up their nukes. Russia was a signatory. Their part of the treaty was they agreed to recognize Ukrainian sovereignty. Clearly that didn't happen. Instead of a violation of the treaty, could the treaty be voided? Give Ukraine back their nukes and go back to square one. Putin then has a whole new set of considerations before he does something else crazy.

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IIRC, the former USSR's nukes in Ukraine were sent (returned?) to Russia and it ain't giving them back

74OA said:

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SPF250 said:

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Tell me why this wouldn't work as I am clearly not an attorney or a politician.

The Budapest Memorandum is the treaty whereby Ukraine and a couple of other Russian Republics gave up their nukes. Russia was a signatory. Their part of the treaty was they agreed to recognize Ukrainian sovereignty. Clearly that didn't happen. Instead of a violation of the treaty, could the treaty be voided? Give Ukraine back their nukes and go back to square one. Putin then has a whole new set of considerations before he does something else crazy.

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IIRC, the former USSR's nukes in Ukraine were sent (returned?) to Russia and it ain't giving them back

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Why couldn't we do it under Lend Lease? Just making them whole on a voided treaty.