***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Good ol' American hardware doing it's thing. Happy hunting
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Thank you for bringing closure to Ukrainian families, Peter.
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Looks like Russia's down yet another one of their most powerful choppers.

Oh and a couple of pilots too.
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Rossticus said:


HELLSCAPE
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In Russia. Not awesome that civilians were killed, but one less chopper is good.
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Translation: Some important planes have been hanging out at the Belgorod airport since yesterday. RF-85042 (Tu-154M of the Ministry of Defense) and RF-85136 (Tu-154M of the Russian Guard) arrived yesterday. Today, in addition to them, another empty RA-85426 (Tu-154B-2 of the Ministry of Defense) flew in. Waiting for passengers in helicopters, it seems.

The linked tweet is a thread. Summary is that there were some VIPs at the airport, including a general. But the explosion is not from the airport.
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https://loadoutroom.com/119738/ukrainians-obliterate-the-elite-russian-4th-guards-tank-division-15-miles-from-russian-border/
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That article has yesterday's date, but the news is a month old.
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Fingers crossed…

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Rossticus said:

Fingers crossed…


Even atheists will be praying for this to be true.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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I thought the tanks and missiles were sufficient evidence of Russia's annexation agenda… along with the other parts of Ukraine that they annexed in 2014.
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Finally some really good verified news out of Azovstal!
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74OA said:

Rossticus said:


HELLSCAPE
"Genius" "Peacemaker" "Help keep peace"

"Why do I hate Putin?"
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Ulrich said:

I thought the tanks and missiles were sufficient evidence of Russia's annexation agenda… along with the other parts of Ukraine that they annexed in 2014.


Yep. This has always been about annexation of Ukraine. All the other BS was misdirection and false pretense.
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Translation: Some important planes have been hanging out at the Belgorod airport since yesterday. RF-85042 (Tu-154M of the Ministry of Defense) and RF-85136 (Tu-154M of the Russian Guard) arrived yesterday. Today, in addition to them, another empty RA-85426 (Tu-154B-2 of the Ministry of Defense) flew in. Waiting for passengers in helicopters, it seems.

The linked tweet is a thread. Summary is that there were some VIPs at the airport, including a general. But the explosion is not from the airport.
if they fly it often enough, the Tu-154 will do work for the Ukrainians
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Rossticus said:

Fingers crossed…



There is some chatter that he may have been the general at the Belgorod airport mentioned above, evacuated out of the theater due to his injury, and then transported to Moscow. It's all totally unconfirmed at this point, so I won't even link it, but it's an interesting theory.
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How much longer can Russia sustain this conflict economically? What sanctions not currently placed should we be placing to really hurt them?

I'll be honest I would have expected more internal strife then is being shown so far
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RONA Ag said:

How much longer can Russia sustain this conflict economically? What sanctions not currently placed should we be placing to really hurt them?

I'll be honest I would have expected more internal strife then is being shown so far
You have to remember that the internet you're used to is English based. Other languages on the net have much smaller corners and not everyone over there is fluent in English. Combine with a huge amount of propoganda from primary school on you get the results you see.

There are more sanctions you could install but the problem is that they would create huge problems domestically in Europe and here. You could also try and coerce some of the Russian's partner countries like India, Brazil, China, Saudi but that's unlikely to happen because a) we can't give them a better deal, b) the negative coercion would have outsized negative consequences and c) the current regime has already damaged those relationships (ahem Saudi) to the point where we won't get any traction.
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When have we ever seen economic sanctions work quickly to make someone capitulate? Venezuela, Libya, Iran, Iraq, etc were under sanctions for years and didn't make them buckle. Authoritarian regimes can get even stronger politically under sanctions because they can blame all the bad on the West. I think sanctions will eventually work in weakening Russia but only by bringing their manufacturing to a stop through lack of foreign parts and goods. As long as they have oil to sell Putin can keep solvent.
Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be accepted at face value.
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Photos of the destroyed bridge referenced a couple times above.
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Hard to believe he wasn't sent there to die. The old "you can go down like a hero or you can go down in the basement of the Lubyanka" is what I speculate is going on with Gerasimov.
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Twitter full of rumors about something going down in the Black Sea. Supposedly lots of Global Hawk and Poseidon activity and hints about Uke attacks on some type of Russian vessels.
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