***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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I wonder if the Germans knew this and wanted to look like they were sending something only to throw their hands up and say "we tried"
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Odds are high that you're right.
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Those British tanks are actually going to Poland to backfill their T-72s going to Ukraine.

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n_touch said:

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Is there where China flexes their with chip production and can slow rearming down? At some point we have to keep things for our own use.
Raytheon is a spin out of Texas Instruments. These guys have been making their own chips since the beginning. Not everything is made in the states, but they understand the pitfalls of these chip designs being fabricated overseas.

I'm sure its because chip making has gotten more advanced since the run of javelins was made, so they're going to have to figure out how to reconfigure/dumb down other chips.
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javajaws said:

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Looks like they'll get to try out live fire combat before their first shave!


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one MEEN Ag said:

n_touch said:

GeorgiAg said:


Is there where China flexes their with chip production and can slow rearming down? At some point we have to keep things for our own use.
Raytheon is a spin out of Texas Instruments. These guys have been making their own chips since the beginning. Not everything is made in the states, but they understand the pitfalls of these chip designs being fabricated overseas.

I'm sure its because chip making has gotten more advanced since the run of javelins was made, so they're going to have to figure out how to reconfigure/dumb down other chips.
They were founded in Cambridge, MA, in 1922. I don't doubt they have some connection with TI, both have large campuses in the Richardson area, but not sure they're a spinoff.
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Must be nice for Switzerland to be tucked in the middle of Europe, up on their mountains and look down on all those non-neutral countries that buffer them from Russia…
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I would think most artillery systems require the same general maintenance, just like an IC engine requires the same lubrication between ford and chevy.


My experience was with the older M198 guns but generally speaking, almost all the serious maintenance problems with tube artillery center on the recoil mechanisms and calibration of the fire control alignmnet.

The recoil and elevation mechanisms rely on hydraulics and pneumatics to absorb the recoil and assist in raising, lowering, and traversing the tube. The seals are the most common point of failure. The M198 used 1650psi nitrogen in the equilibrators to make it possible to use a hand crank to levatethe 9000 pound tube. The M777 is a lot lighter but it probably as a lot of hydraulic seals that can go bad.

They US should be providing lots of spare seals, hydraulic fluid, and gas cylinders (if the M777 is similar to the M198).
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Well I guess I take it back. Maybe he actually achieved something (IF the Russians don't go back on their word, and that's a big IF).
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Wasn't there a report yesterday that part of that pipeline was on fire in western Russia?
CondensedFoggyAg posted this yesterday



Sure looks like Poland is between Russia and Germany on that pipeline. Could always tap into it and dare Russia to invade or cut off Germany.
So piss off the Russians *and* the Germans?


I believe the original NordStream, not the NS 2, goes into Germany through the Baltic.

Poland may be able to get some Russian gas from Germany??
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MeatDr said:


Would be nice to see Moldova move in behind the Russians and take Transnistria back if they try to use it to attack Ukraine.
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Russia just can't help themselves… Moldova on the hot seat.



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Aah yes, clearly the nazis that didn't get destroyed in Ukraine have now moved into Moldova
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Also, does Moldova has a Neptune?
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Rossticus said:

Russia just can't help themselves… Moldova on the hot seat.




I can't imagine there are very many troops in Transnistria to have any real effectiveness.
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Moldova doesn't have a coast. That bridge connects two parts of Ukraine
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wangus12 said:

Rossticus said:

Russia just can't help themselves… Moldova on the hot seat.




I can't imagine there are very many troops in Transnistria to have any real effectiveness.
There isn't a ton of reliable data on the "sepratist forces" but they have about 1000-1200 Russians or the equivalent of 1 BTG in the area in addition to whatever local forces they've scraped together.
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I would assume their goal is to prevent Romania from allowing any supplies to reach Odessa via that bridge and to force the Ukrainians to have to defend Odessa from troops coming at them from two (or three) directions. Personally, I think without the Moscow out there, any landing attempt would be a suicide mission for the Russians. There would be very little out there to prevent Ukrainian drones or aircraft from providing locations of the ships to be hit by Neptunes, artillery, and/or aviation strikes.

ETA: We also have our own assets flying in the Black Sea that would tip the Ukranians about the movements of any potential landing force. Their best chance to try that was on Day 1 of the war, and I think the opportunity window for the Russians to make any amphibious landing attempt has now closed.
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Ulysses90 said:

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I would think most artillery systems require the same general maintenance, just like an IC engine requires the same lubrication between ford and chevy.


My experience was with the older M198 guns but generally speaking, almost all the serious maintenance problems with tube artillery center on the recoil mechanisms and calibration of the fire control alignmnet.

The recoil and elevation mechanisms rely on hydraulics and pneumatics to absorb the recoil and assist in raising, lowering, and traversing the tube. The seals are the most common point of failure. The M198 used 1650psi nitrogen in the equilibrators to make it possible to use a hand crank to levatethe 9000 pound tube. The M777 is a lot lighter but it probably as a lot of hydraulic seals that can go bad.

They US should be providing lots of spare seals, hydraulic fluid, and gas cylinders (if the M777 is similar to the M198).


Thank you for the info.

Curious, would someone with a similar background and experience as you be highly in demand in the Ukraine with all these NATO artillery pieces, some of it a bit dated, rolling in? Could you immediately operate some of this stuff given a team that spoke some English?
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aezmvp said:

wangus12 said:

Rossticus said:

Russia just can't help themselves… Moldova on the hot seat.




I can't imagine there are very many troops in Transnistria to have any real effectiveness.
There isn't a ton of reliable data on the "sepratist forces" but they have about 1000-1200 Russians or the equivalent of 1 BTG in the area in addition to whatever local forces they've scraped together.
Ukraine also has land access to the east from up north of that dead-end strait.
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AggieLit said:

one MEEN Ag said:

n_touch said:

GeorgiAg said:


Is there where China flexes their with chip production and can slow rearming down? At some point we have to keep things for our own use.
Raytheon is a spin out of Texas Instruments. These guys have been making their own chips since the beginning. Not everything is made in the states, but they understand the pitfalls of these chip designs being fabricated overseas.

I'm sure its because chip making has gotten more advanced since the run of javelins was made, so they're going to have to figure out how to reconfigure/dumb down other chips.
They were founded in Cambridge, MA, in 1922. I don't doubt they have some connection with TI, both have large campuses in the Richardson area, but not sure they're a spinoff.

You are correct, I had to do a little more digging. Looks like Raytheon has a long history of buying electronics companies with defense angles. They bought TI's defense group from them.
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74OA said:

aezmvp said:

wangus12 said:

Rossticus said:

Russia just can't help themselves… Moldova on the hot seat.




I can't imagine there are very many troops in Transnistria to have any real effectiveness.
There isn't a ton of reliable data on the "sepratist forces" but they have about 1000-1200 Russians or the equivalent of 1 BTG in the area in addition to whatever local forces they've scraped together.
Ukraine also has land access to the east from up north of that dead-end strait.
I would expect that the be the first area the Russians in Transnistria attack. I also question how much the Russians may be interested in relying on the separatist forces in Transnistria. I would not be the least surprised to find out that their enthusiasm for going to war with Ukraine is similar to that of the Belarussians.
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GAC06 said:

Moldova doesn't have a coast. That bridge connects two parts of Ukraine
It also has a RR bridge that connects all the way to Romania through what appears to be some really nasty ground because the track is likely 2-3X longer than crow fly distance. I suspect a good bit of AID flowing in or through Odessa just got cut off as well as any goods going west. It was a strategic bridge.

There is a transloading rail to barge facility on the west side of the bay but not on the east. Way less efficient and will be open for targeting as well.
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What's Switzerland going to do about it?
They're "neutral" so won't fight over it.

And they're Swiss, so they'll sell more to Germany in the future because they would sell arms to the love child of Zombie Hitler and Zombie Maowho publicly announced a plan to attack orphans and orphanages with Swiss weapons across the globe if they could make enough profit on the sale.
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ETA: Maybe the real reason why gas to Poland got stopped.
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GAC06 said:

Moldova doesn't have a coast. That bridge connects two parts of Ukraine
If Russia has its way, Ukraine will not have a coast.
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They're not making much progress towards that
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AggieLit said:

one MEEN Ag said:

n_touch said:

GeorgiAg said:


Is there where China flexes their with chip production and can slow rearming down? At some point we have to keep things for our own use.
Raytheon is a spin out of Texas Instruments. These guys have been making their own chips since the beginning. Not everything is made in the states, but they understand the pitfalls of these chip designs being fabricated overseas.

I'm sure its because chip making has gotten more advanced since the run of javelins was made, so they're going to have to figure out how to reconfigure/dumb down other chips.
They were founded in Cambridge, MA, in 1922. I don't doubt they have some connection with TI, both have large campuses in the Richardson area, but not sure they're a spinoff.
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After the fall of the Soviet Union, there was a consolidation in the defense industry.
In an aggressive buying spree, Raytheon bought:
  • TI Defense systems and electronics group.
  • Hughes aircraft
  • E-systems
  • Electro-space
  • They recently purchased Rockwell-Collins
  • plus others I have forgotten / am unaware of
These purchases really cut down the number of places to work in the DFW defense industry.
(sorry if this is off topic)

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drums said:

AggieLit said:

one MEEN Ag said:

n_touch said:

GeorgiAg said:


Is there where China flexes their with chip production and can slow rearming down? At some point we have to keep things for our own use.
Raytheon is a spin out of Texas Instruments. These guys have been making their own chips since the beginning. Not everything is made in the states, but they understand the pitfalls of these chip designs being fabricated overseas.

I'm sure its because chip making has gotten more advanced since the run of javelins was made, so they're going to have to figure out how to reconfigure/dumb down other chips.
They were founded in Cambridge, MA, in 1922. I don't doubt they have some connection with TI, both have large campuses in the Richardson area, but not sure they're a spinoff.
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After the fall of the Soviet Union, there was a consolidation in the defense industry.
In an aggressive buying spree, Raytheon bought:
  • TI Defense systems and electronics group.
  • Hughes aircraft
  • E-systems
  • Electro-space
  • They recently purchased Rockwell-Collins
  • plus others I have forgotten / am unaware of
These purchases really cut down the number of places to work in the DFW defense industry.
(sorry if this is off topic)


Yes, the Richardson campus of Raytheon must be the chunk of TI that they purchased.
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