***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Rossticus
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What a trash military.

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Please be confirmed, please be confirmed…

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aezmvp said:



That is quite interesting. They make Reaper and Predator drones.
the list doesn't say drones but my prayer is #1 already being used or #2 inbound hot.

They also need to ADD irrigation equipment to the aid list.....Sunflowers need water too!

Some things don't need to be mentioned on the list and some things need to be on the list not actually going.

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Rossticus said:

Please be confirmed, please be confirmed…


There is apparently a storm currently in the Black Sea as well. Repairing battle damage and a fire in 10 foot swells would be oh so much fun.
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Tee hee.

"In the temporarily occupied Melitopol, unknown people killed 70 Russian servicemen during night patrols, among them "Kadyrovites" - probably the Ukrainian resistance movement, according to Ukrainian intelligence."

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aezmvp
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Rossticus said:

Tee hee.

"In the temporarily occupied Melitopol, unknown people killed 70 Russian servicemen during night patrols, among them "Kadyrovites" - probably the Ukrainian resistance movement, according to Ukrainian intelligence."


Supplying partisans in occupied areas would probably be 3 or 4 on my list of priorities as a Uke commander. Partisan attacks are such a huge force multiplier it's unreal. It wastes a ton of people, resources, intelligence and so forth to secure areas or force you on to secure roads only. Then you damage resupply, morale, and do it in areas with lower quality troops (generally) which creates more gaps in coverage. The obvious Russian response though will be massive and brutal retaliation.
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Rossticus said:

Please be confirmed, please be confirmed…


Wikipage has been updated...

"****ed off by Armed Forces of Ukraine 13.04.22"

So this was the flagship of their fleet?
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Rossticus said:




Related: AIRLIFT
Rossticus
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Seems like those M109s we saw were indeed bound for Ukraine.

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Everyone is running with it now. Wonder how expensive this loss was.
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EDIT as first circulated photo appears fake.
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Yes, they have been boasting how it was the most powerful ship in the Black Sea
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FriscoKid said:

Rossticus said:

Please be confirmed, please be confirmed…


Wikipage has been updated...

"****ed off by Armed Forces of Ukraine 13.04.22"

So this was the flagship of their fleet?



Name Slava (in Soviet service) Moskva (from 2000)
Namesake Glory / Moscow
Builder 61 Kommunara Shipbuilding Plant (SY 445), Nikolayev
Laid down 1976
Launched 1979
Commissioned 30 January 1983
Decommissioned September 1990
Reinstated April 2000
Status Destroyed 4/13/22 by Neptune anti-ship missile. LOL
Notes Flagship of the Black Sea Fleet
General characteristics
Class and type Slava-class cruiser
Displacement 12,490 tons
Length 186.4 m (611.5 ft)
Beam 20.8 m (68.2 ft)
Draught 8.4 m (27.6 ft)
Propulsion 4 COGOG gas turbines, 2 shafts 121,000 shp (90,000 kW)
Speed 32 knots (59 km/h; 37 mph)
Range 10,000 nmi (19,000 km; 12,000 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)
Complement 480
Sensors and
processing systems
Voskhod MR-800 (Top Pair) 3D search radar
Fregat MR-710 (Top Steer) 3D search radar
Palm Frond navigation radar
Pop group SA-N-4 fire control radar
Top Dome SA-N-6 fire control radar
Bass Tilt AK-360 CIWS System fire control radar
Bull horn MF hull mounted sonar
Electronic warfare
& decoys
Rum Tub and Side Globe EW antennas
2 PK-2 DL (140mm chaff / flare)
Armament
16 P-500 Bazalt or P-1000 Vulkan anti-ship missiles
8 8 (64) S-300F Fort (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range surface-to-air missiles
2 20 (40) OSA-MA (SA-N-4 Gecko) SR SAM
1 twin AK-130 130mm/L70 dual purpose guns
6 AK-630 close-in weapons systems
2 RBU-6000 anti-submarine mortars
10 (2 quin) 533mm torpedo tubes
Armour Splinter plating
Aircraft carried 1 Ka-25 or Ka-27 helicopter

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Rossticus
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*was*
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Rossticus said:


Confirmed as the Moskva?
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AgLA06 said:

Robk said:




Looks like the helicopters are a go.
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Isn't this the trains shipments we saw videos of already in neighboring countries heading to Ukraine?


Well this 800m more just added today. Maybe we are moving stuff proactively so that once approved they are ready to be delivered.
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Not photographically, no. Photos few and inconclusive as to ID thus far.
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"No fair. You don't get to attack us back. Only Russia is allowed to attack. MOMMMMMMM!"

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I said they need to start taking out ships and they take out Russia's mighiest. Good job Ukes
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That'll sting more than losing a few hundred tanks.

It's my understanding Russia doesn't have much of a navy at this point. At least nothing that is very effective.
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74OA said:

Rossticus said:


Confirmed as the Moskva?
Fake picture.



Iranian ship from a few years ago.
Rossticus
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Wait, you mean that coal fired carrier that has to travel with a tug boat doesn't intimidate you?
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Probably just another Russian feint. I'm sure the military wanted to lose this ship.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

That'll sting more than losing a few hundred tanks.

It's my understanding Russia doesn't have much of a navy at this point. At least nothing that is very effective.
Russia just lost a cruiser which they said was the most powerful ship in the Black Sea. Besides that they only have 2 operating frigates and only one more carrier. if the cruiser was sunk Russia lost a ton of capabilities on the coast.
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These are photos of the actual Moskva, for comparison.





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Rossticus said:

EDIT as first circulated photo appears fake.


That's the Iranian IRIS Kharg that caught fire and sank in the Gulf of Oman last year…
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RebelE Infantry said:

Rossticus said:

EDIT as first circulated photo appears fake.


That's the Iranian IRIS Kharg that caught fire and sank in the Gulf of Oman last year…


Yep. Which is why posted that nothing was conclusive and why I then deleted it and posted pics of the actual cruiser for us to compare to any future pics that are put forward.

Not always in a position to save a source, do immediate research, and come back to it. Sometimes it's easier to post as a way to bookmark and then between myself and the rest of the board, verify accuracy. Trying to get out the door to the vet atm so this was one of those times.
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Rossticus
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I'd say that qualifies as "smoke".
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No way is this real!

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FriscoKid said:

No way is this real!


LOL, that guy in the Moskva video. That grin and facial expressions say everything.
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A running total of equipment lost on both sides.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
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Today's. SITREP.
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