***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP] - Page 379

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/23/europe/ukraine-war-russian-soldiers-deaths-cmd-intl/index.html
The first warm, sunny days of spring in the southern Mykolaiv region are ushering in a grim new reality: the smell of the dead.

As the frost melts and ground thaws, the bodies of Russian soldiers strewn across the landscape are becoming a problem.

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In reply to MeatDr • 3:27p, 3/23/22

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This is great news! A huge push.

This is what that would look like

h/t @Liveuamap https://t.co/W6rpcTM2oU pic.twitter.com/Ojn5S1UoH7
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 23, 2022

Yesterday the estimate was 20-30 km away.

There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates

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3:28p, 3/23/22

AG

Not a fan of this being broadcast by our defense department. Hopefully they are putting out misinformation when they give the timing of this stuff...

Of $350 mill. security package @Potus signed, the last remaining material should arrive within next day or so for further transshipment into #Ukraine & the first flight of material from the $800 mill. pkg should be planning "to arrive within the next day or so"- sr def official
— Carla Babb (@CarlaBabbVOA) March 23, 2022

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In reply to No Spin Ag • 3:35p, 3/23/22

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No Spin Ag said:
MeatDr said:
This is great news! A huge push.

This is what that would look like

h/t @Liveuamap https://t.co/W6rpcTM2oU pic.twitter.com/Ojn5S1UoH7
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 23, 2022

Yesterday the estimate was 20-30 km away.

Or could this be a sign of bad things to come?
Is it possible the Russian's are creating space on Kviv due to the weapons they are contemplating deploying or are they getting pushed about equally on all three sides?

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In reply to MeatDr • 3:38p, 3/23/22

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MeatDr said:
Not a fan of this being broadcast by our defense department. Hopefully they are putting out misinformation when they give the timing of this stuff...

Of $350 mill. security package @Potus signed, the last remaining material should arrive within next day or so for further transshipment into #Ukraine & the first flight of material from the $800 mill. pkg should be planning "to arrive within the next day or so"- sr def official
— Carla Babb (@CarlaBabbVOA) March 23, 2022

The flow of NATO materiel into Ukraine from Poland is nonstop. This latest US tranche is just part of that flow.

With a shared border 330 miles long and innumerable crossing points, no way Russia can stop the flow without first conquering western Ukraine.

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In reply to JFABNRGR • 3:55p, 3/23/22

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Don't know - i would have thought a complete push to completely cut off the NW approach was a better plan.

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4:09p, 3/23/22

How do you say ‘Falaise pocket’ in Ukrainian? pic.twitter.com/uhL0UxA0ec
— Hans de Vreij (@hdevreij) March 23, 2022

Full list of every Russian commander killed fighting Ukraine war https://t.co/0iNtPVa7Y0
— Newsweek (@Newsweek) March 23, 2022

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In reply to W • 4:39p, 3/23/22

W said:
Ukraine's propaganda has been outstanding since day 1 of the war

True, I wonder where they learned it from? Straight out of the box and ready to go. Little refinement necessary. Nobody gets something that complex right that fast unless they have had lots of help. Lots of experienced propagandist in the US thee days too.

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4:40p, 3/23/22

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NEWS, w/ @barbarastarrcnn: A rare face-to-face meeting between Russian and US military officials last week led to an “outburst” of emotion from a normally stoic Russian general, according to a closely held US military readout https://t.co/wODZfcZCRE
— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) March 23, 2022

The readout makes particular note of the behavior of Maj Gen Yevgeny Ilyin, who has a history of dealing w/ US. As the meeting was breaking up, one attaché "casually inquired” about his family roots in Ukraine, and his “stoic demeanor suddenly became flushed and agitated.”
— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) March 23, 2022

From the CNN article:
"But the US officials reported Ilyin then added that the current situation in Ukraine is "tragic and I am very depressed over it" -- and then he walked out without shaking hands, according to the readout."

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4:55p, 3/23/22

Translated...
A Chechen captured by Azov fighters called on his compatriots to jihad against Russia. He reminded that Ukrainians helped in the struggle for independence of the Chechen Republic ..., emphasizing that we should not fight with Ukraine on the side of bloody Russia,
— Stephen Reed (@Stephen87165188) March 23, 2022

…Would have used laugh/cry emoji if I had access to it. The O face was the next closest.

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4:55p, 3/23/22

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EU to double its aid to Ukraine. EUROS

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In reply to Rosstafari • 4:58p, 3/23/22

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Rosstafari said:
Translated...
A Chechen captured by Azov fighters called on his compatriots to jihad against Russia. He reminded that Ukrainians helped in the struggle for independence of the Chechen Republic ..., emphasizing that we should not fight with Ukraine on the side of bloody Russia,
— Stephen Reed (@Stephen87165188) March 23, 2022

…..and yet there he is caught fighting in Ukraine and now saying anything just to survive.

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5:09p, 3/23/22

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Now in the #Kyiv region there are about 12 thousand #Russian soldiers

This was stated by the adviser to the head of the presidential office Alexei Arestovich.

“Of these, 3.000 are almost surrounded, another 4.000 are cut off and are in a very unpleasant place,” he said. pic.twitter.com/ZPWi5LN55T
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 23, 2022

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5:11p, 3/23/22

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I don't blame the Ukrainians. They are fighting for their country and their lives, but putting POWs in videos to denounce the war is probably a violation of the Geneva convention right?

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5:13p, 3/23/22

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❗️Russian stock market will open (partially) tomorrow, for the first time since Feb. 25, Central Bank announces.

Trading shares in 33 of the biggest companies on Moscow Exchange (those that make up the iMoex index) will be allowed. Short selling banned.
— Jake Cordell (@JakeCordell) March 23, 2022

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In reply to MeatDr • 5:21p, 3/23/22

MeatDr said:
❗️Russian stock market will open (partially) tomorrow, for the first time since Feb. 25, Central Bank announces.

Trading shares in 33 of the biggest companies on Moscow Exchange (those that make up the iMoex index) will be allowed. Short selling banned.
— Jake Cordell (@JakeCordell) March 23, 2022

What's the point of even opening the market then? So the Russian government can buy up all the shares with their worthless Rubles?

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In reply to JFABNRGR • 5:24p, 3/23/22

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Russia has yet to demonstrate the ability to plan and coordinate a feigned retreat. A organized withdrawal while in contact with an enemy is one of the more difficult maneuvers in the history of armed conflict. Broadly speaking, the same thing was attempted last year in Afghanistan with disastrous results.

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5:25p, 3/23/22

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Interesting New York Times video report on intercepted Russian radio transmissions. No paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html

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5:25p, 3/23/22

https://t.co/EFNgVKqr4D
— Patrick Fox (@RealCynicalFox) March 23, 2022

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5:33p, 3/23/22

One of the Kremlin’s negotiating demands. “Russia…wants Ukraine to reduce its army to 50,000, a fifth of its current size. After a month of bloody sacrifice, few in Ukraine are anywhere near ready to agree to such a cut” https://t.co/LhAAclaKT4
— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) March 23, 2022

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In reply to Rosstafari • 5:35p, 3/23/22

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First time since the 80s? I bet those subs are in great shape.

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In reply to Rosstafari • 5:45p, 3/23/22

AG

Rosstafari said:
One of the Kremlin’s negotiating demands. “Russia…wants Ukraine to reduce its army to 50,000, a fifth of its current size. After a month of bloody sacrifice, few in Ukraine are anywhere near ready to agree to such a cut” https://t.co/LhAAclaKT4
— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) March 23, 2022

They should also demand World Peace while they are at it.

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In reply to deddog • 5:48p, 3/23/22

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deddog said:
Rosstafari said:
One of the Kremlin’s negotiating demands. “Russia…wants Ukraine to reduce its army to 50,000, a fifth of its current size. After a month of bloody sacrifice, few in Ukraine are anywhere near ready to agree to such a cut” https://t.co/LhAAclaKT4
— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) March 23, 2022

They should also demand World Peace while they are at it.

You gotta admit the Russians have chutzpah. They're getting their asses kicked, but making demands like they're on the verge of victory. Time is not on their side.

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In reply to Rosstafari • 5:48p, 3/23/22

AG

Rosstafari said:
One of the Kremlin’s negotiating demands. “Russia…wants Ukraine to reduce its army to 50,000, a fifth of its current size. After a month of bloody sacrifice, few in Ukraine are anywhere near ready to agree to such a cut” https://t.co/LhAAclaKT4
— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) March 23, 2022

Ukraine should reply by passing a law requiring a gun in every house.

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In reply to Ag In Ok • 5:48p, 3/23/22

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Ag In Ok said:
Don't know - i would have thought a complete push to completely cut off the NW approach was a better plan.

Pretty sure a lot of the area NW is flooded.

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In reply to MeatDr • 5:52p, 3/23/22

One of the soldiers riding on that tank about 30 seconds into the video was wearing tennis shoes! Plenty of casualties laying around from whom he could get boots.

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In reply to MeatDr • 6:00p, 3/23/22

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MeatDr said:
This is great news! A huge push.

This is what that would look like

h/t @Liveuamap https://t.co/W6rpcTM2oU pic.twitter.com/Ojn5S1UoH7
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 23, 2022

Yesterday the estimate was 20-30 km away.

Wait, isn't that the direction the 40 mile convoy was in? So is that all just donion rings now? A whole bunch of captured/destroyed materiel for the Ukes?

ETA: Nevermind, I think that was Northwest. Leaving this up for posterity so nobody else makes the same mistake.

Staff: feel free to delete if you would prefer as well.

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In reply to Rosstafari • 6:04p, 3/23/22

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Rosstafari said:
One of the Kremlin’s negotiating demands. “Russia…wants Ukraine to reduce its army to 50,000, a fifth of its current size. After a month of bloody sacrifice, few in Ukraine are anywhere near ready to agree to such a cut” https://t.co/LhAAclaKT4
— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) March 23, 2022

They should respond that they will after they finish reducing the Russian army to 50k

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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 6:10p, 3/23/22

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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
First time since the 80s? I bet those subs are in great shape.

No... They're deploying 3 out of 4 at the same time for the first time since the 80's.

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In reply to MeatDr • 6:13p, 3/23/22

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MeatDr said:
Interesting New York Times video report on intercepted Russian radio transmissions. No paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html

That is sheer incompetence. Comms and logistics are as important as it gets and they decide to go with trying to half ass both of them

ETA: did anyone else notice the whistling tune from the "jammer" was Dixie?

You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!

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In reply to Rosstafari • 6:20p, 3/23/22

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Rosstafari said:
One of the Kremlin’s negotiating demands. “Russia…wants Ukraine to reduce its army to 50,000, a fifth of its current size. After a month of bloody sacrifice, few in Ukraine are anywhere near ready to agree to such a cut” https://t.co/LhAAclaKT4
— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) March 23, 2022

Why would Ukraine ever agree to cut any of their military? They're literally in the middle of fighting off an invasion. Russia cannot seriously believe that's going to happen, and so it has to be a negotiating tactic.

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6:25p, 3/23/22

BREAKING: The UK Government will provide 6,000 new defensive missiles to Ukraine & over $30m in military aid, per a statement.

This more than doubles defensive lethal aid provided by UK to Ukraine to over 10,000 missiles. UK also working to provide longer-range targeting & intel
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) March 23, 2022

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6:27p, 3/23/22

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Originally posted this in the generic Russia/Ukraine thread but this guy also talks about strategy and tactics (or lack thereof) for this invasion. Since this is from April 2021, amazing insight translated to foresight.

Encourage watching (reading the translation).

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6:46p, 3/23/22

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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 6:46p, 3/23/22

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AgBQ-00 said:
MeatDr said:
Interesting New York Times video report on intercepted Russian radio transmissions. No paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html

That is sheer incompetence. Comms and logistics are as important as it gets and they decide to go with trying to half ass both of them

The thing that's really bizarre is that this has been Soviet/Russian doctrine since before WWII. Soviet tanks and aircraft often lacked 2-way radios. Battlefield comms were frequently limited to hand signals.

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