***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to TRM • 12:03a, 3/6/22
Tactical mini-vans… Bold move Vlad. Let's see how it works out for you…
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12:08a, 3/6/22
Slava Ukraini

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In reply to Rossticus • 12:20a, 3/6/22
Rossticus said:
Slava Ukraini

I know this is def off topic, but I hope one day soon we can say this dialogue but replace France with Ukraine.

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"Vive la Ukraine"
"...Vive la liberte"
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1:08a, 3/6/22

In rare move, Japan to send bulletproof vests and helmets to Ukraine
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Japan will provide bullet-proof vests and other defense supplies to Ukraine, Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said Friday, in a rare delivery of equipment by the Self-Defense Forces to a country under armed attack.

The goods to be delivered by the SDF and through other channels also include helmets, tents, winter clothing, food items, hygiene products, cameras and power generators, the Japanese government said, as Russia escalates its attack on Ukraine despite international condemnation.
Helmets and vests are exactly what the boots on the ground in Ukraine are frantically asking for. Japan, Italy, and Germany all sending either weapons and or defensive equipment. Not bad, not bad.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/03/04/national/sdf-vests-helmets-ukraine/
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1:18a, 3/6/22
150 orphans were rescued finally from Kharkiv. Twitter picture shows they spent the last 10 days. **** putin


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In reply to Not a Bot • 2:10a, 3/6/22
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Captain Positivity said:

Translation
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In reply to TRM • 2:25a, 3/6/22
TRM said:
Another logistics thread:



Of note:
the impact of the ability to bring up fuel and ammunition seems to be getting to critical zone in the northern prong. the real threat is now from the Russian southern prong moving north along the Dnieper on both sides of the river to cut the country in two.

cutting the eastern half would pin those Uke forces holding the line in Donetsk and Luhansk off from resupply from the polish border and Kyiv.

the real analysis will be: which side collapses first from resupply and manpower problems. As Patton noted, he knew the Germans were beaten when he saw how many horse drawn carts they were using in late 1944
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In reply to Not a Bot • 2:32a, 3/6/22
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11,000 KIA

Not casualties but KIA…that is massive

That's more than Gettysburg
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2:36a, 3/6/22
So that 40 mile long line of vehicles. Just about every picture I have seen the picture doesn't seem to have any people around. It almost appears the vehicles are abandoned.

I know that is not possible…..but dang those pictures
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In reply to Agsuffering@bulaw • 2:40a, 3/6/22
Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Has anyone studied the Russo Finnish war? Seems like a lot of parallels.
Yes I have.

there are also several excellent Finnish movies about the "Mannerheim" Line and the tactics the Finns used to leave hit teams hidden behind the Soviet advance to then pop up and wreak havoc

the difference is that Finland has a very small population and no cities were being invaded, most of the battle was in snowy forests. so it was really just military versus military

here in today's war you have millions of civilians trapped which makes the defense much more difficult for the Ukrainians. now it's not just how many tanks can you hit but how many cities can you keep out of the hands of the Russians.
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In reply to PJYoung • 4:04a, 3/6/22
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PJYoung said:

Damn.

"They opened the floodgates of reservoirs around those columns to flood them and turn the surrounding areas into impassable quagmires for months – probably until July or August."

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Ukraine Thread Part 3 Day Eight of the Russian Column Held Hostage (by the usual Russian incompetence)
March 5, 2022 by Trent Telenko
Welcome to the third installment of the Russian invasion of Ukraine series. Since Napoleon stated that the moral is to the physical what ten is to one. After the situation map (below) we are going to start the post with a look at the moral dimensions of the current fighting. Follow it with my impressions of the current fighting. Then close with a counterfactual of the Ukraine-Russian fighting based on the works of Trevor Dupuy.

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I have posted on twitter about the Russian Army columns North of Kyiv decaying into immobile blobs due to the Rasputitsa, poorly maintained Chinese truck tires and shear "follow the plan" Russian incompetence.

The head and first dozen or so kilometers of the southernmost column north of Kiev have been stuck there for EIGHT DAYS. The Russians have since rammed more and more vehicles into this monster traffic jam (idiotically "following the plan" Soviet-style) so the whole thing is now 65-70 kilometers long (almost 40 miles).

And, because the trucks can't go off-road due to the Rasputitsa mud and tire problems, they're stuck on the roads and the roads' shoulders three vehicles wide for the whole @40 miles. That means fuel and resupply trucks can't move on or off road to deliver anything to anybody.

So all the columns' heads are now out of fuel and battery power. They can't move north, south or sideways, and everything behind them is stuck because of the mud, and rapidly running out of fuel and vehicle battery charge too (assuming they haven't already). Nor can any of those columns defend themselves because they're too densely packed. They're just targets waiting for the Ukrainians to destroy them.

Only the Ukrainians had something better to do. They opened the floodgates of reservoirs around those columns to flood them and turn the surrounding areas into impassable quagmires for months probably until July or August. (See photo below) Probably several thousand Russian vehicles in those columns will be irrecoverable losses. Hundreds of Russian soldiers might have drowned.


Absolutely embarrassing for Russia. Holy *****
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In reply to bangobango • 4:07a, 3/6/22
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Damn


Wow.

Fyi, there are subtitled videos in a subtweet of the one linked. Powerful stuff.


Could you please link the one with subtitles? It won't let me scroll further unless I sign up, which I have no b desire to do.
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4:20a, 3/6/22
Shipping Ukrainians off to Russia or just trying to make them look like Russians before they kill them and blame Ukraine? Either way, that's not good…

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In reply to Rossticus • 4:35a, 3/6/22
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Rossticus said:


Unless I missed something, Ukraine doesn't even hold Chernobyl.
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 4:37a, 3/6/22
Waffledynamics said:
Rossticus said:


Unless I missed something, Ukraine doesn't even hold Chernobyl.


Nope. But Russian (nor Chinese) citizens don't know that. No better way to win back over your country than "They tried to nuke us!".
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In reply to Rossticus • 5:41a, 3/6/22
Rossticus said:


That was jarring to say the least.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 5:44a, 3/6/22
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No Spin Ag said:
Rossticus said:


That was jarring to say the least.


...Fing feral animals...
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In reply to ATX_AG_08 • 5:50a, 3/6/22
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ATX_AG_08 said:
CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Is anyone else dumbfounded at how Kharkiv seems to be turning in favor for the Ukes(I hope).Who the hell just abandons 30 units?

Oh well 30 Javelins saved.


I don't even know how Russia is still in this fight with all the apparent absconded soldiers and abandoned equipment. Russia may still win this, but their losses are going to be astronomical, in life and equipment.


The losses that the Russians are suffering makes one recall the statement of General Kiyotake Kawaguchi who was assigned the task of destroying the American Marines on Guadalcanal. After the sixth month campaign had chewed up his forces he said, "Guadalcanal is not the name of an island. It is the graveyard of the Japanese Army". This was the same guy who had only months eaier been so confident that described his intention to compel Gen A.A. Vandegrift to surrender to him on bended knee and beg for his life.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 5:52a, 3/6/22
Captain Positivity said:


Looks like the Ukrainians aren't going to give Putin the videos of people welcoming his invasion like he wanted. Good for them.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Rossticus • 6:01a, 3/6/22
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I know there were civilians in the background, but the guy was…carrying an AK of some sort on his back. He also…wasn't moving very tactically on a battlefield.
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