***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Yukon Cornelius
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Don't think you understand how fleet groups operate. Aircraft carrier maybe the number one reason for US global dominance.
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TheCougarHunter said:

jbanda said:

Really makes you wonder if this is forcing the decision makers to rethink the role of armor in modern warfare given the effectiveness of modern anti armor weapons.


It is my belief the next major war will prove the tank and aircraft carrier obsolete, just as WW2 and the battleship.
Directed Energy or even hypersonic projectile weapons would render all modern weapons systems, including the latest aircraft obsolete. See, shoot, kill. That changes everything.
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TheCougarHunter said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Pretty clear air assets are incredibly important. Not sure how you got to the conclusion a platform to deploy air assets from water (aircraft carrier) is proved obsolete by this military engagement.


They're vulnerable, let's just say that.
Static airfields are even more vulnerable
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Don't think you understand how fleet groups operate. Aircraft carrier maybe the number one reason for US global dominance.
In 1929 Britain's dreadnoughts was the number one reason for its global dominance. Things change. The Space Force will be by far the most important branch of the US military by 2040. If not sooner.
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ttu_85 said:

TheCougarHunter said:

jbanda said:

Really makes you wonder if this is forcing the decision makers to rethink the role of armor in modern warfare given the effectiveness of modern anti armor weapons.


It is my belief the next major war will prove the tank and aircraft carrier obsolete, just as WW2 and the battleship.
Directed Energy or even hypersonic projectile weapons would render all modern weapons systems, including the latest aircraft obsolete. See, shoot, kill. That changes everything.


Oh those things russia "brags" about having? Guess we should just pack up the military's most effect platforms for engagements.
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TRM said:


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Yukon Cornelius
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True. Things change and the space front might be the most important but you still need air assets. That won't change for a very long time and air fields are even more vulnerable. Flight time and ranges still mater too.
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Amazing if true. Ukes are amazing!
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Irish 2.0 said:


Israel brokering a peace agreement?
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No other reason for him to go from Kremlin to Germany in a matter of 4-6hrs I don't think
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TRM said:

Wow.

Looks like a residential street in Ivankiv. Sorry I cant figure out how to link location on GE to this platform.

I would want to know where these coordinates came from, because all indications its a russian asset on the ground in that area.

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agent-maroon said:

Irish 2.0 said:


Israel brokering a peace agreement?


Would he not need to visit Zelinsky. I fear he is carrying a sweet heart deal message to Germany.

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Well he isn't going to land in Kyiv to discuss with Zelensky. Germany has been the staging point for all of this since that's where NATO HQ is. They'll contact Zelensky from there
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How are Ukranian-Israeli relations? Don't want to believe that the Isrealis would sell the Ukes out on this
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Ukraine has been arresting suspected moles.
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agent-maroon said:

Irish 2.0 said:


Israel brokering a peace agreement?


Interesting
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Irish 2.0
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Ukraine the territory is of historical importance to Jews. There was a lot of anti-Semitic issues up until the 90s. That's what Putin is drawing on for his Nazi crap.

Israel actually has one of the harder balancing acts in all of this
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:


Look at the V on the wood, so we know this is recent.

I'm honestly speechless. WTF.

Can any vets say if this is standard armoring procedure, ya know, asking for a friend.
Improvise and adapt.

I am sure they passed by one of their comrades trucks with the glass all shot out and the cabs full of bloody corpses.

I was an 11B2VP as God intended me to be and to avoid rolling coffins like these. Not to say I never jumped a duece.
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Irish 2.0 said:

Ukraine the territory is of historical importance to Jews. There was a lot of anti-Semitic issues up until the 90s. That's what Putin is drawing on for his Nazi crap
That's good to hear!

Edit - TA won't print Hebrew
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DallasAg 94 said:

Germany can't afford to go against Russia, or their freeze.
and the massive steam crackers in Germany
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Per Fox:

Quote:


Bennett arranged the meeting with the knowledge of and incoordination with the United States, Germany and France as part of ongoing talks with Ukraine.
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Robk said:

agent-maroon said:

Irish 2.0 said:


Israel brokering a peace agreement?


Would he not need to visit Zelinsky. I fear he is carrying a sweet heart deal message to Germany.


Agreed - Germany's sudden rise is leading to the strengthening of NATO. The last two PMs were bought, he may have an offer intended to split the alliance. As the secondary goal. Putin is an expert in German affairs going back to his Stasi days.
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DallasAg 94 said:

You know who hasn't been sanctioned, regarding Russian Oligarchs?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Abramov

Ukrainian women on Fox indicated Abramov hasn't been sanctioned because he owns 3 Steel Mills in the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Abramov

Just another reason against Globalization for One World Order.

Germany can't afford to go against Russia, or their freeze.

The more O&G and steel we use... the richer Russian Oligarch get.


Oooh oooh ooh, i know how to fix that problem - especially if the mills are in Pennsylvania.
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TRM said:




"Then you can use the ****ing OARS!"
Irish 2.0
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Israel is also one of the only developed countries that deals heavily with both Russia and Ukraine that has taken a truly neutral status thus far. Them acting as the mediator is logical
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I feel like we should all appreciate for a second the true gargantuan storm of muck Putin has brought down on himself. Imagine being so arrogant, so deluded by nostalgia, such an aspirant world bully that you think you can take down an entire country full of freshly democratic free peoples with a truly flaccid show of rusty, Soviet-era force, and it be over in less than a fortnight.

There is no 4D chess, ladies and gentlemen. We're witnessing the dying sigh of a dictator who has fallen prey to the same curse that all dictators face if left alone for too long: believing their own BS.

Our war is not with the people of Russia but this man who threatened all free peoples with nuclear war.
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Here here!
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Putin may have hinted at full on annexation of Ukraine:


Russian forces have confirmed the death of two high ranking officers:

Maj Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky, CO 7th VDV, XO 49th CAA
Source: Putin interview with Russian media, supposedly by sniper to the head

Col. Zizevsky Konstantin, 243 Air Assualt Regiment, 7th VDV
Source: Russian backed Stavropol State TV, https://stavropolye.tv/news/163644 , cause unknown, possibly from indirect artillery fire.

There is an additional claim of a Col. killed in the seperatists.
Col.Vladimir Zhoga, Sparta Battalion, Donetsk People's Republic, Cause unknown. Possibly artillery.

Edits: Grammar+ Spelling
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Yup.

Viva Ukraine
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Escalation - it's their doctrine.
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Could effect the app Ukrainians have to report troop movements and equipment.
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