***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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11:07a, 3/5/22

Translation:
"Now I will show you how the Russian occupier should look inside Ukraine's territory! Just like that! Whoever fears these machines - with the letter Z - should come and take a look. Here they are sitting behind me and they are not planning to go anywhere. No one will allow them to go forward. Let's go, everyone - together, we'll hold. Everything will be alright - glory to Ukraine!"
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11:07a, 3/5/22
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11:10a, 3/5/22
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This is one of the larger cities with a lot of hubs on the Black Sea.


Cops getting into the action? Same city reportedly.


Damn interesting development if true.
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11:11a, 3/5/22

Sanctions are truly biting now.
EDIT: Workers are going on strike due to the ruble collapsing
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 11:13a, 3/5/22
CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Sanctions are truly biting now.


From the Google translate on the tweet:
It started in Russia.

In Nizhnekamsk, workers at the Hemont plant went on a spontaneous strike because they were not paid part of their salaries due to the sharp collapse of the ruble.
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11:15a, 3/5/22

Quote:
Soldier 1: [inaudible], right guys?
Soldier 2: Alright, one more ****ing time, you there - where are you from?
Captive 1: Altai Krai.
Soldier 2: Altai Krai? What's your name, surname?
Captive 1: Anatoliy Semikin.
Soldier 2: One more ****in time.
Captive 1: Semikin.
Soldier 1: Louder.
Soldier 2: Huh?
Captive 1: Se-mi-kin.
Soldier 2: Sevirin?
Captive 1: Se-mi-kin.
Soldier 2: Sevikin. Alright, and where are you from?
Captive 2: Lipetsk.
Soldier 2: Lipetsk?
Captive 2: Yes.
Soldier 2: Name, surname?
Captive 2: Riutin Ivan.
Soldier 2: Rank?
Captive 2: Senior lieutenant.
Soldier 2: Military unit number?
Captive 2: 12128.
Soldier 2: One more time, louder!
Captive 2: 12128!
Soldier 2: What the **** are you doing here??
Captive 2: Was rescuing a man.
Soldier 2: What ****ing man were you rescuing???
Captive 2: I was ordered to.
Soldier 2: You scum are killing our men, you ****ing *******!
Soldier 1: Where the hell have you seen that "man", guys? The "men" that are ****ing shelling our cities in Kharkiv?
Soldier 2: Who the **** are you, rank, surname?
Captive 1: Rescuer. Res-cu-er.
Soldier 2: Rank.
Captive 1: Captain.
Soldier 2: Captain! Captain of what?
Captive 1: Military unit 75391.
Soldier 2: Place of deployment?
Captive 1: Rostov Oblast, Millerovo city.
Soldier 2: Where are you now? What ****ing country?
Captive 1: Ukraine.
Soldier 2: **** are you doing here, guys?
Captive 1: They ordered us to fly. Resc--
Soldier 2: Who ordered you? Name, surname of the commander who ordered you, gave the order?
Captive 1: Lieutenant colonel Sayid Batalov.
Soldier 2: Lieutenant colonel, say the surname again?
Captive 1: Sayid Batalov.
Soldier 1: Sayid?
Captive 1: Sayid Batalov.
Soldier 1: Sayid Batalov, huh. What the **** even is that coming here[end]
Rescuing someone my ass
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In reply to Dan Scott • 11:18a, 3/5/22
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Dan Scott said:
Israel probably cares because Iran nuclear deal is almost complete. Russia apparently trying to sabotage it.
May need some context here....

The nuclear deal as led by the USA is counter to what we want to happen and allows Iran to skate. It's why Trump got us out of it. The only deal that should be made is to tell Iran that Israel is allowed to annihilate any capability they try to develop.

So, what exactly is Putin trying to sabotage and is that actually a good thing?
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11:19a, 3/5/22
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Another commander bites the dust.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 11:19a, 3/5/22
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They shot down a Russian helicopter not long after shooting the plane down. Was likely trying to pick up the pilot. Was not an attack helicopter.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:20a, 3/5/22
Captain Positivity said:
They shot down a Russian helicopter not long after shooting the plane down. Was likely trying to pick up the pilot. Was not an attack helicopter.
Ah that could be the case, thanks.
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11:21a, 3/5/22
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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:21a, 3/5/22
Doesn't matter. Shouldn't be in Ukraine.
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In reply to TRM • 11:23a, 3/5/22
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TRM said:


God Speed Heroes of Ukraine
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11:23a, 3/5/22
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In reply to TRM • 11:24a, 3/5/22
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TRM said:
just more vehicles to pick off....no support AGAIN!!! At least the tank has a fuel truck behind it...lite it up!
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11:24a, 3/5/22

Is anyone else dumbfounded at how Kharkiv seems to be turning in favor for the Ukes(I hope).Who the hell just abandons 30 units?

Oh well 30 Javelins saved.
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In reply to TRM • 11:28a, 3/5/22
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TRM said:
Another commander bites the dust.


Saw elsewhere he was the one of the top commanders of the DPR separatists. Makes me wonder if the DPR and LPR "units" are officially mobilized by the Russians. Anyone know?
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In reply to YouBet • 11:30a, 3/5/22
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YouBet said:
Dan Scott said:
Israel probably cares because Iran nuclear deal is almost complete. Russia apparently trying to sabotage it.
May need some context here....

The nuclear deal as led by the USA is counter to what we want to happen and allows Iran to skate. It's why Trump got us out of it. The only deal that should be made is to tell Iran that Israel is allowed to annihilate any capability they try to develop.

So, what exactly is Putin trying to sabotage and is that actually a good thing?


Reports are the deal was close to being finalized next week. Today Russia demanded that it be put in writing no sanctions from Ukraine conflict impact its ability to trade with Iran.

I don't know if Israel wants the deal or not. Maybe Israel sees the deal is close and is telling Russia not to mess it up or secretly telling Russia to mess it up.
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In reply to YouBet • 11:30a, 3/5/22
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YouBet said:
Dan Scott said:
Israel probably cares because Iran nuclear deal is almost complete. Russia apparently trying to sabotage it.
May need some context here....

The nuclear deal as led by the USA is counter to what we want to happen and allows Iran to skate. It's why Trump got us out of it. The only deal that should be made is to tell Iran that Israel is allowed to annihilate any capability they try to develop.

So, what exactly is Putin trying to sabotage and is that actually a good thing?


I wonder if our strategy is to sign a deal knowing that Israel will never allow Iran to obtain a nuke. Keeps us from wasting resources/confronting Iran for a change. I know that sounds absurd but there have been crazier things.
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11:31a, 3/5/22

Look at the V on the wood, so we know this is recent.

I'm honestly speechless. WTF.

Can any vets say if this is standard armoring procedure, ya know, asking for a friend.
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11:31a, 3/5/22
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Where are these Russians going after they leave their assigned mechanized units? Do they have a civilian clothes and try to blend in?
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11:32a, 3/5/22
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Question - What does the "Z" and the "V" signify on Russian assets?
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In reply to Bird Poo • 11:34a, 3/5/22
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PearlJammin said:
YouBet said:
Dan Scott said:
Israel probably cares because Iran nuclear deal is almost complete. Russia apparently trying to sabotage it.
May need some context here....

The nuclear deal as led by the USA is counter to what we want to happen and allows Iran to skate. It's why Trump got us out of it. The only deal that should be made is to tell Iran that Israel is allowed to annihilate any capability they try to develop.

So, what exactly is Putin trying to sabotage and is that actually a good thing?


I wonder if our strategy is to sign a deal knowing that Israel will never allow Iran to obtain a nuke. Keeps us from wasting resources/confronting Iran for a change. I know that sounds absurd but there have been crazier things.
Well, possibly, but that would be smart by the leftists in control and I'm not sure they are that smart. Israel did say recently that they reserve the right to take out Iran's nuke capabilities on their own accord. That was communicated because Biden's strategy is Obama's strategy continued. They were against Obama's and against this one by default.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:34a, 3/5/22
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aggiehawg said:
Where are these Russians going after they leave their assigned mechanized units? Do they have a civilian clothes and try to blend it?


Actually a damned good question and one I've been wondering about myself last day or so.

We know that some have been observed abandoning their stuff and then were hunted down. But the ones who aren't observed, I have no idea.
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In reply to aggiepanic95 • 11:36a, 3/5/22
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aggiepanic95 said:
Question - What does the "Z" and the "V" signify on Russian assets
Identifiers to discern between Russian and Ukrainian vehicles, since both use Russian equipment. The Russian defense ministry has come out with some patriotic slogans to go with them but pretty much telling their conscript soldiers who not to shoot at.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 11:36a, 3/5/22
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Look at the V on the wood, so we know this is recent.

I'm honestly speechless. WTF.

Can any vets say if this is standard armoring procedure, ya know, asking for a friend.


Help me understand please.
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In reply to aggiepanic95 • 11:37a, 3/5/22
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aggiepanic95 said:
Question - What does the "Z" and the "V" signify on Russian assets?
Indicates where the a
Russian units are assigned/come from. Since they are similar to Uke units.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:37a, 3/5/22
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aggiehawg said:
Where are these Russians going after they leave their assigned mechanized units? Do they have a civilian clothes and try to blend it?


To their Tinder hookup previously arranged is my guess...
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In reply to Demosthenes81 • 11:37a, 3/5/22
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Demosthenes81 said:
aggiepanic95 said:
Question - What does the "Z" and the "V" signify on Russian assets
Identifiers to discern between Russian and Ukrainian vehicles, since both use Russian equipment. The Russian defense ministry has come out with some patriotic slogans to go with them but pretty much telling their conscript soldiers who not to shoot at.


Also helps signify regions and their origins. Z has been for the Crimean detachments, V for Eastern and some naval assets, O for Belarus.
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In reply to Catag94 • 11:38a, 3/5/22
Catag94 said:
CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Look at the V on the wood, so we know this is recent.

I'm honestly speechless. WTF.

Can any vets say if this is standard armoring procedure, ya know, asking for a friend.


Help me understand please.
They're using wood to armor their vehicles.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 11:39a, 3/5/22
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The wood "might" turn smaller caliber bullets. Beyond that it's firewood.
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In reply to Catag94 • 11:40a, 3/5/22
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Catag94 said:
CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Look at the V on the wood, so we know this is recent.

I'm honestly speechless. WTF.

Can any vets say if this is standard armoring procedure, ya know, asking for a friend.


Help me understand please.


Unditching logs. Used for traction in super muddy conditions and getting unstuck

ETA: Would be my guess. Pretty common for armored vehicles in rough terrain. That thing does have a lot of them though....
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In reply to Eliminatus • 11:40a, 3/5/22
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Eliminatus said:
Demosthenes81 said:
aggiepanic95 said:
Question - What does the "Z" and the "V" signify on Russian assets
Identifiers to discern between Russian and Ukrainian vehicles, since both use Russian equipment. The Russian defense ministry has come out with some patriotic slogans to go with them but pretty much telling their conscript soldiers who not to shoot at.


Also helps signify regions and their origins. Z has been for the Crimean detachments, V for Eastern and some naval assets, O for Belarus.
Thanks to all that answered my question. Makes a lot of sense.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 11:42a, 3/5/22
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Thanks. I thought there was something significant about the V on the left vehicle being white.
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