***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Irish 2.0 said:




Money starting to dry up


I'll be honest, weaponizing contracts with private companies or people seems like a bad plan.
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Nvm won't work
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Agthatbuilds said:

Irish 2.0 said:




Money starting to dry up


I'll be honest, weaponizing contracts with private companies or people seems like a bad plan.


I don't believe swift is 100% closed - i believe the west is expecting bond payments to be made this month.
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Looks like a Russian ammo storage area got blown to smithereens.
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Agthatbuilds said:

Irish 2.0 said:




Money starting to dry up


I'll be honest, weaponizing contracts with private companies or people seems like a bad plan.


It's up to the Russian people to stop this at this point. Apply pressure anywhere and everywhere. I don't think Russians will go as easily into despair as Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, and N. Korea have.
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OG UNF said:

dtkprowler said:

Yeah they aren't "actively trying to start WW3".... They are trying to get help and trying to survive


Lying to us to meet that end is not ok. If can't trust them, they any no more credible the Russians saying Ukraine troops sabatoged the plant themselves.


One is (possibly) lying to try and save the lives of millions of innocent people from an unjustified invasion, the other one is definitely lying to attempt to justify murdering civilians and destroying cities. They aren't comparable.

Also seems just as possible that someone alerted him in real time that the plant was under attack an on fire that he just said f it and released the message as quickly as possible before confirming the details.
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The Russian people can't do a damn thing
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Agthatbuilds said:

The Russian people can't do a damn thing


There are plenty in Russia that can stop this. Just a matter of applying the pressure. The oligarchs are losing billions and it starts with cutting off their revenue sources. This is a move to do so
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir_missile_system

Someone with more knowledge than me speak, but these Pantsirs, if used to their full extent and not just blown up, would be incredibly valuable for their IFF (identity friend or foe) systems. Like possibly help end the war valuable.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2020/06/19/libya_a_catastrophe_for_russias_pantsir_s1_air_defense_system_115394.amp.html
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For the fellow or the people who like to know what is up in the air that we know of (just the interesting ones)

2 B52s over germany
RC-135U Homer59 over romania
Rc-135w Rivet Jake12 over poland
Global Hawk over bulgaria headed NNE

Normally there are a few AWACS up but currently I don't see any on the map.

Also here is the disclaimer. NONE OF THIS MEANS WE ARE ATTACKING.
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How?

Is Putin just gonna bow down to some oligarch(s)? He hasn't bowed to to the entirety of the world thus far. A couple billionaires won't change that.

Is a oligarch gonna send some suicide squad to take out putin? Doubtful, but if they do, they'd better be successful on their first try. History shows bad things happen when megalomaniacs survive assassination attempts.


At first I thought pressuring the russian people via removing western money was a good plan by the west, but now I see it as a real slippery slope to uncontrollable big govt.

Add in private companies banning their products from Russia which creates a major sense of isolation, not for the oligarchy, but for the normal people.

This isn't going to do what we think it will, imo.



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htownag10 said:

For the fellow or the people who like to know what is up in the air that we know of (just the interesting ones)

2 B52s over germany
RC-135U Homer59 over romania
Rc-135w Rivet Jake12 over poland
Global Hawk over bulgaria headed NNE

Normally there are a few AWACS up but currently I don't see any on the map.

Also here is the disclaimer. NONE OF THIS MEANS WE ARE ATTACKING.
You know.... just in case putin is an aggie football fan....
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I'm not posting the video due to multiple dead Russian bodies being shown but here are screenshots of destroyed equipment from that video.

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So we continue with status quo and let life go on in Russia as if they're not invading a sovereign country and shelling cities???

You're ****ting right?

Hermit Kingdom 2.0 their asses and maybe some general will recognize what it has done to the NorKs and decide he doesn't want 'Mother Russia' to go down that avenue. This ends with Putin's death. There is no other way around this. Mother ****er already signed off on and is trying to put nukes in Belarus. Though it is more scare tactics considering their ICBMs can travel 11k miles, it is a prety big freaking attempted escalation nonetheless.
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TRM said:

This morning I found a tweet that said 16k foreign volunteers -3k Americans.




Gotta love those who can do this. Give 'em he'll.
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Obviously not.

But, these sanctions likely won't bring down putin. They will greatly harm the Russian people, who likely can't do a damn thing about putin, either.
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Captain Positivity said:


lines up with the rumors of conscription of males
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Agthatbuilds said:

Obviously not.

But, these sanctions likely won't bring down putin. They will greatly harm the Russian people, who likely can't do a damn thing about putin, either.
Collateral damage. **** happens when your leaders direct your country into war. The people of N. Korea, Cuba, and Iran have to deal with it too. Is what it is. To do nothing is not an option
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"KREMLIN SAYS NOW IS TIME FOR RUSSIANS TO RALLY AROUND PUTIN
5:55 AM Mar 4, 2022"


This seems like a big deal. If you have to ask…
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Marvin said:

"KREMLIN SAYS NOW IS TIME FOR RUSSIANS TO RALLY AROUND PUTIN
5:55 AM Mar 4, 2022"


This seems like a big deal. If you have to ask…

Not really I don't think. Seems like bravado to me considering the people in Russia are not happy campers right now as they continue to be isolated and cut off from the rest of the world. Enough media/news is making it's way into Russia that they're losing the PR inside Russia.
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Captain Positivity said:



Looks like a Russian ammo storage area got blown to smithereens.
Ukrainian Jedburghs?

That'd be cool.
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AggieKO said:

The world should absolutely talk sense into China and step in when it's assured there wouldn't be a world war. This is getting ridiculously out of control.
Really go to China !!!! Uh K......
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Russians still haven't even sniffed anything west of Kyiv yet outside of some botched airborne ops and missle strikes. Lviv has got to be one bristling MF'er with all the ordinance coming in from the west.
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I think Russia takes the southeast by tomorrow or so, and is then strategical positioned to move on multiple fronts.

That said, the best outcome in the interest of the US now would be a long, drawn out war/insurgency that drains Russia.
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OG UNF said:

I think Russia takes the southeast by tomorrow or so, and is then strategical positioned to move on multiple fronts.

That said, the best outcome in the interest of the US now would be a long, drawn out war/insurgency that drains Russia.
It seems unlikely they can securely consolidate any of the areas they have "taken". Going to be a meat grinder in their rear.
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Irish 2.0 said:

So we continue with status quo and let life go on in Russia as if they're not invading a sovereign country and shelling cities???

You're ****ting right?

Hermit Kingdom 2.0 their asses and maybe some general will recognize what it has done to the NorKs and decide he doesn't want 'Mother Russia' to go down that avenue. This ends with Putin's death. There is no other way around this. Mother ****er already signed off on and is trying to put nukes in Belarus. Though it is more scare tactics considering their ICBMs can travel 11k miles, it is a prety big freaking attempted escalation nonetheless.
Good Post.

But ......

"This ends with Putin's death. There is no other way around this. Mother ****er already signed off on and is trying to put nukes in Belarus. Though it is more scare tactics considering their ICBMs can travel 11k miles, it is a prety big freaking attempted escalation nonetheless."

There is NO political, military, or propaganda advantage to this. And he did this on day 2 of the war. I did some reading on the guy in Belarus and he is nuttier than Putin. This whole thing was insane and I think for internal political consumption and a huge geopolitical mistake by Putin. I posted on this thread regarding this topic the day I heard it.

Nuts !!
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This seems noteworthy…

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