***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 12:54p, 3/3/22
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Russia is long way from securing the country. They likely lack the forces to ever secure it if the Ukrainians don't collaborate on a large scale.
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In reply to 2wealfth Man • 12:55p, 3/3/22
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2wealfth Man said:
TRM said:
got two divergent thoughts here: (1) Putin and cronies getting crazier by the day and; (2) the Russian populace is now getting more informed somehow about the disaster that is Ukraine


Based on the leaks about what they are doing in schools I'm going with #1
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12:56p, 3/3/22
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USAF feeding Ukraine ISR data. TACTICS
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:02p, 3/3/22
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Perhaps. But also would allow time for Russia to try and sort out their apparent logistics problem unmolested. So in the end it's probably a wash.
Or a trap.
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In reply to TRM • 1:04p, 3/3/22
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Yep.
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1:04p, 3/3/22
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SEA MINES?
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1:09p, 3/3/22
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Something to watch.


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In reply to TRM • 1:10p, 3/3/22
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TRM said:
From previous posts it looks like the Ukes can replace this one easily with the dozen abandoned RU ones they have appropriated.
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In reply to TRM • 1:12p, 3/3/22
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TRM said:
Something to watch.




Maybe the equipment put in to squash the Kazakh uprising?
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In reply to wangus12 • 1:13p, 3/3/22
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wangus12 said:
Jay Reimenschneider said:
Can we all agree on one thing? That this is the weirdest war ever fought?
Nah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War
I will also add this entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
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In reply to 74OA • 1:23p, 3/3/22
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74OA said:
SEA MINES?
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Perhaps honored more in their breach than observance (as evidenced by Albania's mining of the Corfu Channel in 1946 and Iran and Iraq's indiscriminate use of mines during the 1980s "Tanker War"), the laws of naval mining are nonetheless clear. If the rules were followed, in peacetime, crisis and armed conflict, China's, Russia's, Iran's and any other country's use, including the United States, of naval minesparticularly in self-defense roleswould not, per se, be an "act of war."

But, that's a big "if."

And, given Iranian hyperbole, there's little wonder that the U.S. Navy and other partners have buttressed their mine countermeasures capabilities in the Arabian Gulf. Just in case.

And, so it might be in the Black Sea, as well. Or in the South China Sea, too.
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In reply to 74OA • 1:24p, 3/3/22
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No preview on mobile. Just post links
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1:27p, 3/3/22
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/03/world/russia-ukraine

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The Russian state-controlled news network RT said on Thursday that it would start broadcasting on the video site Rumble, two days after YouTube announced that it would be blocking channels connected to RT and another Russian state-backed outlet, Sputnik, across Europe.

"After a multitude of platforms have moved to knock out our broadcast and limit social media, you can stay on top of our LIVE broadcast," RT posted on Twitter Thursday.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has become a defining geopolitical moment for some of the world's biggest tech companies, as their platforms have turned into major battlefields for a parallel information war and their data and services have become vital links in the conflict.

In recent days, YouTube, which is owned by Google, and Meta, Twitter and other social media companies have responded to the war in Ukraine with steps to limit the spread of Russian propaganda and misinformation spreading on their platforms. This week, Twitter said it would label all posts containing links to Russian state-affiliated media outlets, and Meta and YouTube said they would restrict access to some of those outlets across the European Union to ward off war propaganda.
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In reply to AgsMyDude • 1:29p, 3/3/22
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AgsMyDude said:
2wealfth Man said:
TRM said:
got two divergent thoughts here: (1) Putin and cronies getting crazier by the day and; (2) the Russian populace is now getting more informed somehow about the disaster that is Ukraine


Based on the leaks about what they are doing in schools I'm going with #1
Is putin messaging his country that Ukraine has invaded or attacking russia to explain the losses and to drum up support for his military? This could be part of 1 and 2 but without factual info.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 1:31p, 3/3/22
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Ceasefire allows Russia to catch up and resupply. They've been known to not exactly follow ceasefires in the past.

They'll wait until they are ready, claim provocation, and start fighting again.
And in the interim we arm them with the nastiest, most portable, anti air and armor we can get to them and teach them to use in mass.
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In reply to GAC06 • 1:32p, 3/3/22
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GAC06 said:
No preview on mobile. Just post links

Basically the article is saying that the Helt reportedly struck a mine at anchor. Possible causes are it anchored in a previously mined area or the sea mine escaped its tether. Both plausible imo.

Though, if the Ukrainians did mine this area it would explain why Odessa has not seen an amphibious landing. Though I'm unsure of Ukraine's capabilities of doing so.
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 1:36p, 3/3/22
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jabberwalkie09 said:
GAC06 said:
No preview on mobile. Just post links

Basically the article is saying that the Helt reportedly struck a mine at anchor. Possible causes are it anchored in a previously mined area or the sea mine escaped its tether. Both plausible imo.

Though, if the Ukrainians did mine this area it would explain why Odessa has not seen an amphibious landing. Though I'm unsure of Ukraine's capabilities of doing so.
That and neptune cruise missiles. Any beach landing close enough to target those mobile units would be in range for return cruise missile fire.

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In reply to Faustus • 1:37p, 3/3/22
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Faustus said:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/03/world/russia-ukraine

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The Russian state-controlled news network RT said on Thursday that it would start broadcasting on the video site Rumble, two days after YouTube announced that it would be blocking channels connected to RT and another Russian state-backed outlet, Sputnik, across Europe.

"After a multitude of platforms have moved to knock out our broadcast and limit social media, you can stay on top of our LIVE broadcast," RT posted on Twitter Thursday.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has become a defining geopolitical moment for some of the world's biggest tech companies, as their platforms have turned into major battlefields for a parallel information war and their data and services have become vital links in the conflict.

In recent days, YouTube, which is owned by Google, and Meta, Twitter and other social media companies have responded to the war in Ukraine with steps to limit the spread of Russian propaganda and misinformation spreading on their platforms. This week, Twitter said it would label all posts containing links to Russian state-affiliated media outlets, and Meta and YouTube said they would restrict access to some of those outlets across the European Union to ward off war propaganda.
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They should cut Russian state media from their platforms altogether...
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In reply to JFABNRGR • 1:41p, 3/3/22
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JFABNRGR said:
AgsMyDude said:
2wealfth Man said:
TRM said:
got two divergent thoughts here: (1) Putin and cronies getting crazier by the day and; (2) the Russian populace is now getting more informed somehow about the disaster that is Ukraine


Based on the leaks about what they are doing in schools I'm going with #1
Is putin messaging his country that Ukraine has invaded or attacking russia to explain the losses and to drum up support for his military? This could be part of 1 and 2 but without factual info.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3274372/replies/61599014
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1:41p, 3/3/22
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Paratroopers aren't that strong. The firepower of an "elite" paratrooper regiment is way weaker than that of regular, "non-elite" infantry regiment. They can't defeat an army. But they aren't supposed to fight against an army. They are supposed to suppress mutinies and rebellions

The entire concept of VDV, Russian paratroopers makes total sense if we consider that they are not so much soldiers as the riot police. They don't need to fight other regular armies, they need to suppress disorganised mutinies and protests

Since paratroopers are the shock troops of regime, they absolutely need to look scary to scare off any mutineers. Their entire legendary status is one huge psyop. That's not a secret, really well-trained forces such as those of GRU consider these guys to be fraudsters

For this reason paratroopers absolutely need to be very tall. Physical fitness is not enough, you need to be very big. Why? Because they need to be scary. Because their main weaponry is purely psychological. People should see these big guys and realise resistance is meaningless

Tons of songs, visuals etc are dedicated to paratroopers, more than to any other troops. Why? Again, because VDV are psyop troops and they are powerless without a thoroughly developed mythology. Thus government heavily invests in building this mythology

2nd of August is the VDV day. So every year ex-paratroopers (or whoever decided to west the light blue vest and beret) jump into the public fountains ... harass civilians

.. and the police. Regular people (or soldiers) would get long prison terms for beating up the cops. But not the paratroopers. They are shock troops of the regime and the regime gonna maintain their badass status. They are so badass because they have full support of the state

That's why "elite" paratroopers comprise the Reserve of the Supreme High Command. It's not a reserve for a big war. Nope. It's a reserve for suppressing mutinies within Russia or in neighbouring countries. And that's largely done through psyops. Thus they work hard to seem scary

When Russia decided to suppress the insurrection in Kazakstan last year, it sent there its glorified riot police - the paratroopers. See the light blue stripes on their vests? Only VDV wears it

Let's be honest, Kremlin sees Ukraine as a rebel province. The very existence of this country is mutiny. And if you need to suppress a riot, you send the riot police. So Putin sent there paratroopers and they were completely routed. Because they didn't expect organised resistance.

Russian paratroopers were used as paratroopers only during the suppression of "fascist revolt" in Hungary 1956 and in Czechoslovakia 1968. Why? Because they knew they're not gonna face another regular army there. So they can unleash their psyop without fearing any consequences

When Putin invaded Ukraine he thought he's suppressiing yet another Eastern European mutiny. And sent his riot police expecting Ukrainian army to run or surrender. But it didn't. And once it didn't his entire special operation modelled after Whirlwind 1956 or Danube 1968, failed

Paratroopers were supposed to take control of the main cities and logistical clusters, so the occupation of the country by the army would go smoothly. But Ukrainian army opened fire and they failed. And after that initial failure the entire plan was broken

Putin expected Ukrainian army to surrender. Unexpectedly not only the army but even regular civilians whom government gave guns started attacking Russian supply lines. Russia didn't plan for war and simply pushed forward with just one army echelon, so supply lines are unguarded

As a results those columns that pushed forward run out of fuel and simply get stuck on the roads and in the fields. That's the most plausible explanation for this Russian column simply staying in the field and being filmed by civilians

Putin's Blitzkrieg failed because it wasn't a Blitzkrieg. Blitzkrieg is a war operation against an enemy who fights. But Russia launched a special operation expecting Ukrainians to surrender. That's why they sent forward their glorified riot police. Of course, they were beaten

They sent only one echelon of troops by land. They wanted to occupy a defenceless country and didn't care about covering their supply lines. Of course they were cut off and now thousands of Russian vehicles are stuck with no fuel

The only question is whether Ukrainians will be able to stand their ground until the imminent economic collapse of Russia. It will happen much sooner than most expect, gonna write about it tomorrow in a more detailed way. In any case, Putin's plan of a special operation failed

It failed for two reasons. Firstly, after 2014 Ukrainians rebuilt their army and state for the imminent clash with Russia. Secondly, when Russia finally attacked, Ukrainians didn't fall for an empty psyop and didn't get scared. And if you don't fear, psyop doesn't work.
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In reply to PJYoung • 1:50p, 3/3/22
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Great read!
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 1:58p, 3/3/22
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jabberwalkie09 said:





Interesting. Preparing to try and deliver a knockout blow to Ukrainian AF/AD maybe?
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 2:00p, 3/3/22
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Time to let fly with tochkas if the Uke's have any left.
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In reply to GAC06 • 2:02p, 3/3/22
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GAC06 said:
Time to let fly with tochkas if the Uke's have any left.
Thats what I was thinking. This kind of gathering of aircraft is similar to what we saw in the build up. Just not sure how many they have left in their arsenal.
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In reply to SPSAg05 • 2:08p, 3/3/22
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What does that mean "suspend Russia"?
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2:09p, 3/3/22
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Looks like they're checking out to see what kind of AA capabilities are left.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 2:11p, 3/3/22
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ABATTBQ11 said:
Faustus said:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/03/world/russia-ukraine

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The Russian state-controlled news network RT said on Thursday that it would start broadcasting on the video site Rumble, two days after YouTube announced that it would be blocking channels connected to RT and another Russian state-backed outlet, Sputnik, across Europe.

"After a multitude of platforms have moved to knock out our broadcast and limit social media, you can stay on top of our LIVE broadcast," RT posted on Twitter Thursday.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has become a defining geopolitical moment for some of the world's biggest tech companies, as their platforms have turned into major battlefields for a parallel information war and their data and services have become vital links in the conflict.

In recent days, YouTube, which is owned by Google, and Meta, Twitter and other social media companies have responded to the war in Ukraine with steps to limit the spread of Russian propaganda and misinformation spreading on their platforms. This week, Twitter said it would label all posts containing links to Russian state-affiliated media outlets, and Meta and YouTube said they would restrict access to some of those outlets across the European Union to ward off war propaganda.
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They should cut Russian state media from their platforms altogether...


Looks like reddit has cut Russian state media completely off everywhere. Links to sputnik and RT are banned sitewide and there all adds room Russian entities are blocked.
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In reply to Deplorable • 2:12p, 3/3/22
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OG UNF said:


What does that mean "suspend Russia"?
From Interpol?
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OG UNF said:
SPSAg05 said:

What does that mean "suspend Russia"?
For some reason Russia is a member of Interpol and has access to their intelligence.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 2:15p, 3/3/22
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ABATTBQ11 said:
ABATTBQ11 said:
Faustus said:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/03/world/russia-ukraine

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The Russian state-controlled news network RT said on Thursday that it would start broadcasting on the video site Rumble, two days after YouTube announced that it would be blocking channels connected to RT and another Russian state-backed outlet, Sputnik, across Europe.

"After a multitude of platforms have moved to knock out our broadcast and limit social media, you can stay on top of our LIVE broadcast," RT posted on Twitter Thursday.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has become a defining geopolitical moment for some of the world's biggest tech companies, as their platforms have turned into major battlefields for a parallel information war and their data and services have become vital links in the conflict.

In recent days, YouTube, which is owned by Google, and Meta, Twitter and other social media companies have responded to the war in Ukraine with steps to limit the spread of Russian propaganda and misinformation spreading on their platforms. This week, Twitter said it would label all posts containing links to Russian state-affiliated media outlets, and Meta and YouTube said they would restrict access to some of those outlets across the European Union to ward off war propaganda.
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They should cut Russian state media from their platforms altogether...


Looks like reddit has cut Russian state media completely off everywhere. Links to sputnik and RT are banned sitewide and there all adds room Russian entities are blocked.

Is the delusional Russian subreddit also gone?
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In reply to jabberwalkie09 • 2:18p, 3/3/22
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Dunno, but probably heavily modded if it isn't.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 2:20p, 3/3/22
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ABATTBQ11 said:
Dunno, but probably heavily modded if it isn't.
It was commonly known that if you posted on a Ukrainian subreddit, war related ir just the the Ukrainian one, you were guaranteed to get banned from r/russia. Some users never posted on the r/russia subreddit.
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