TX04Aggie said:

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BBC backing off the meeting happening on the border of Belarus. Saying Ukraine has not confirmed that this meeting is on.

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I am dubious of the EU ever doing something both good and fast. But, happy to see them at least try.

The weapons needs to be delivered very fast. No time to spare. https://t.co/yQX1nqPOGb

— Anders Östlund (@andersostlund) February 27, 2022

Apparently at the border? Why would they agree to meet at that specific location when they can meet at a neutral location, anywhere?

During a phone call with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed that the Ukrainian delegation would meet with the Russian delegation without preconditions on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border, near the Pripyat River.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) February 27, 2022

Yeah sounds like a conversation is happening but nothing is completely set for the meeting.

Even WAPO has picked up the meeting

People are talking about China like it's a potential ally of Russia, even if for just a few weeks because they want cover to get into Taiwan or to exert pressure on Taiwan or even just because China and Russia are both bad guys so they must be in cahoots. I think that's probably wrong.

I bet Russia's missing crack troops (to the extent that there are crack troops and that they aren't actually in Ukraine somewhere) are in reserve to deter China and others from carving off a chunk of Russia or deposing one of Putin's puppets, or even Putin himself.

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crazy thought, what would a couple dozen drone strikes ocer the Kremlin do in terms of the russians mental might, cant just ait here and play defense all day

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Yes that is a crazy thought. Really, you do know that Russia is not taking the gloves off at all. They fighting in many ways like we did in certain instances. we are trying to eliminate collateral or civilian deaths.

The one thing you do not want to do is go on the offensive against Russia, that is why Putin did what they did. They feel that they are being encroached on by the "Cabal States" of the west and there is pretty good history of the west invading Russia. Yea!

No, no, no. as soon as you go on the offensive against Russia, the gloves come of and this things goes nuts. Do not assume because Russia is trying to fight a limited offensive invasion here that they are incapable of escalating things to and level that no one will like. They have a massive array of really nasty weapons including tactical nukes.

The Russians are not well equipped or have much of history of tactical surgical offensive intrusions and that is obvious here. Do not give them any reason to flip the switch to go into what they do best mode!

An offensive move against Russia itself is absolutely crazy. Yea it is!

Proc92 said:

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Are there portable or man fired weapons that are used to counter artillery, maybe by tracking the arc of incoming rounds? Or is that really only possible with large systems?

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Typically just a counter battery radar system. Nothing man portable that I know of.

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Naive, uneducated question, but even if Vlad were demented enough to launch a nuke, what are the chances that it would even make it from point A to point B anywhere in the world without being taken out by some kind of defense system?

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I think that all depends on how many nukes are in play…would he launch just one or would he launch a full on strike against the West, which, we would be forced to respond to…

Someone needs to take down Putin and his inner circle before this gets to a point where the nuclear threat becomes imminent…

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First strike is not in their doctrine nor does it achieve Putins ultimate goal: regime survivability. This is a bluff.

The talks on the other hand are surely a bluff to allow for a resupply.

A meeting in Belarus is just Russian propaganda, right? There's no way the Ukes could even be considering a meeting anywhere near there or even along their border?

There is information that as a result of the air attack of the Russian troops on the Gostomel airport near Kyiv, one of the largest and most powerful aircraft in the world of Ukrainian production AN-225 «Mriia» was burned.
Via Radio Svoboda

— KyivPost (@KyivPost) February 27, 2022

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Part of me wishes Russia provokes the rest of the world into disposing of them for good - that way China has no formidable ally. On the bright side that probably buys 50+ years of relative peace assuming the US doesn't fracture politically.

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This is like really stupid, thinking with emotions is not a good idea here. You act like Russia is just going to sit back and get wiped out and do nothing? I mean really, Do not make the mistake to think that because Russia really sucks at trying to execute a surgical clean and limited type of offensive incursion that they are totally inept in all areas of war fare. Please!!

Let's stay on topic everyone

Live video link for Kyiv

I don't see anything recently that is off topic.

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Ulrich said:

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I don't see anything recently that is off topic.

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Yea my speculation post about Putin was. Should have put it in the other thread. My bad.


Carry on. This is a great thread.

#BREAKING Situation in Ukraine has turned into a war, Turkiye will implement 'all provisions of Montreux Convention in a transparent manner': Foreign Minister Cavusoglu

— ANADOLU AGENCY (@anadoluagency) February 27, 2022

Ulrich said:

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I don't see anything recently that is off topic.

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Me either, but I have seen comments that could quickly push it off.

Can those of you with current situational knowledge confirm whether resupply lines into Kiev are still open? If not, all those incoming weapons will be of little use to the defenders of the major Russian objective and potential meat grinder.

Yeah. My bad. I had that other video from the 9/11 thread copied to send to my brother. Caught it right away.

I've seen talk about thermobaric weapons. If Russia actually uses them, especially on population centers, would this be a trigger for more direct action from NATO?

Irish 2.0 said:

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Live video link for Kyiv

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Bottom left has to be a loop, right? Too much activity.

I am confused, I thought historically Turkey was allies with Russia, am I off base?

Waffledynamics said:

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I've seen talk about thermobaric weapons. If Russia actually uses them, especially on population centers, would this be a trigger for more direct action from NATO?

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I think it puts Vlad squarely in the court of an international tribunal if he loses this fight…

But I don't see NATO taking an offensive stance unless nukes are deployed…

For better or worse, I think nukes throw all ROE off the table…

Turkey is NATO, but they have/had an arms agreement with Russia. If Russia backs out of the arms agreement I'm sure concessions were made by other NATO countries for supply

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Can those of you with current situational knowledge confirm whether resupply lines into Kiev are still open? If not, all those incoming weapons will be of little use to the defenders of the major Russian objective and potential meat grinder.

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I haven't seen a map recently, but is there any indication that Russia has surrounded Kiev or gotten control of the Uke's supply lines?

B-1 83 said:

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Can those of you with current situational knowledge confirm whether resupply lines into Kiev are still open? If not, all those incoming weapons will be of little use to the defenders of the major Russian objective and potential meat grinder.

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As long as Ukraine's long land border with NATO countries is open, supply lines are also open. Such is the case.