Why would India side with Russia given Russia is building a massive port in Pakistan?

Saw something on news earlier that India gets a large percentage of fertilizer from Russia that is important for certain crops grown in India and they want to ensure that they can keep payments open to keep getting it

flakrat said:

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Why would India side with Russia given Russia is building a massive port in Pakistan?

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Cold War allies and partners in current military tech I believe

Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

flakrat said:

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Why would India side with Russia given Russia is building a massive port in Pakistan?

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India has bought a lot of **** from Russia, is currently leasing an Akula class attack sub, and was looking into leasing a second one or trying to build their own.

flakrat said:

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Why would India side with Russia given Russia is building a massive port in Pakistan?

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Fertilizer. India relies on Russia. No fertilizer no food.

Anyone else wondering if the Russians did their due diligence with surveillance, intelligence, and attack planning?

New news has kinda gone quiet. What's happening?

Strategically related because location of Zelensky directly impacts Russian decisions.

Zelensky posts a video with top aides + his prime minister, apparently from above ground in Kyiv.

“We are all here, our soldiers are here … we are defending our independence” pic.twitter.com/CX7s7Rq0ED

— Felix Light (@felix_light) February 25, 2022

One has to wonder if Zelensky was smart enough to film this kind of thing a week or two ago in order to present a different picture for his actual whereabouts

edit: probably not

Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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https://news.sky.com/story/russia-invasion-fears-as-britain-sends-2-000-anti-tank-weapons-to-ukraine-12520950
UK sent 2,000 units. Nice.

Ukraine UN rep is speaking live now at UN Security Council in NYC.

Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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What makes this special compared to other equipment?

Agthatbuilds said:

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New news has kinda gone quiet. What's happening?

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It seems like they're kind of in a lull right now. It seems like around midnight to sometime around dawn in Ukraine where ground activity hits a point where there isn't much going on. Some of this is because of lack of being adequately equipped to fight at night but I'm sure units need rest and chow. I don't think that Russian air assets in theater are particularly great night fighters outside of the Su-34.

It's almost 0200 in Ukraine right now.

Waffledynamics said:

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Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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What makes this special compared to other equipment?

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Basically the latest and greatest in anti-tank missiles.

FireAg said:

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Anyone else wondering if the Russians did their due diligence with surveillance, intelligence, and attack planning?

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See below for a quote from "Red Storm Rising" that pretty well sums up where the Russians probably are right now. They didn't get as far as they wanted right away to "Shock and Awe" the Ukes into submission. Their attempts to land paratroopers and capture airports to bring in resupply have not worked as they planned. Now they may have some breakthroughs, but the trick is getting enough troops (and their supplies) through that breakthrough in order to exploit it before the Ukrainians can regroup and shuffle to meet them. I think the supply side of that is likely given the sporadic postings about Russians out trying to scavenge diesel to keep their tanks running.

From Red Storm Rising. Again...surprisingly accurate for a 40ish year old book.
He now had a full fighting division across the Leinethe remains of one, he corrected himself. The two reinforcing tank divisions were trying to cross now, but the ribbon bridges had been bombed overnight along with the advancing divisions. The NATO reinforcements were beginning to arrivetheir road advances had also suffered from air attacks, though at ghastly cost to the Soviet fighter-bombers. The tactics … no, amateurs discuss tactics, Alekseyev thought wryly. Professional soldiers study logistics. The key to his success would pivot on his ability to maintain bridges on the river Leine and to run traffic efficiently down the roads to Alfeld. The traffic-control system had already broken down twice before Alekseyev had dispatched a team of colonels to handle things. "We should have picked a better place," Alekseyev muttered. "Excuse me, Comrade General?" Sergetov asked. "There's only one good road into Alfeld." The General smiled ironically. "We should have made our breakthrough at a town with at least three."

Waffledynamics said:

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Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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What makes this special compared to other equipment?

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Asymmetric warfare/force equalizing weapon?

Nitro Power said:

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Time for me to eat some crow here. I said yesterday Russia would mow almost anyone over that they wanted in short order. I was wrong, I admit it. I think there are two things taking place here. Russia is a bully who has built a reputation based on fear. So far it appears to me Ukraine hit them in the mouth and/or they are not as powerful as thought (at least me). Two, I did not expect Ukraine to rally like they have. Regardless of the outcome, what they are doing is inspirational.

I was indifferent at first, but I am firmly rooting for Ukraine to kick some ass.

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Home court and house rules always help as well.

IMHO, Russia as a whole is just very outdated" and the rest of the world hasn't been able to see Russia's capabilities until now. Putin has to lay in this bed that he also has taken a **** in so far.

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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What makes this special compared to other equipment?

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Asymmetric warfare/force equalizing weapon?

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They apparently rival the Javelins? Maybe that's just me drawing conclusions based on other stuff I've seen posted

Rumor on OSINT live space that Russia is conscripting every trained medical professional they can get their hands on. Includes med school students. Apparently they've taken much heavier casualties than they planned for and are planning for more. A lot more.

Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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If they're using that pictures as proof, then they may want to remove the American flag from the backpack.

Is there any chance more countries get involved to help Ukraine with manpower, now that they have shown they at least have a punchers chance? Also as another poster pointed out their tech and strategies seem outdated.

Solo Tetherball Champ said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Rosstafari said:

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Ukrainian MOD- "Kyiv territorial defence have NLAW. Welcome to hell." pic.twitter.com/AbLejB17kj

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 25, 2022

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What makes this special compared to other equipment?

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Basically the latest and greatest in anti-tank missiles.

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Those look intimidating. I'm sure they're even moreso when hitting their target.

Rosstafari said:

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Rumor on OSINT that Russia is conscripting every trained medical professional they can get their hands on. Includes med school students. Apparently they've taken much heavier casualties than they planned for and are planning for more. A lot more.

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Which is it - trained medical professionals or med school students? Not sure the latter will be very helpful

Some good info on the weapons and their delivery here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2022/01/25/the-uk-airmailed-2000-nlaw-missiles-to-ukraine-are-they-useful/?sh=52d790d4170b
Apparently lighter weight, shorter range and single-shot disposable compared to the Javelin.

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The meter-long disposable weapon weighs just 27.5 pounds and can launch a single 150-millimeter diameter missile out to an effective range between 20 and 600 meters, or up to 400 meters for moving targets. Newer NLAWs reportedly have guidance software increasing accurate range to 800 meters.
Unlike most light anti-tank weapons, the NLAW has a 'Predicted Line of Sight' guidance system in which the operator tracks a moving target vehicle in the launcher's 2.5x magnification sight for 3-5 seconds before firing.

A 'cold launch' system then ejects the missile with pressurized gas before it ignites its rocket motor, accelerating the weapon to 440 miles per hour (200 meters per second). This allows the weapon to be used safely from interior spaces without injuring personnel with the rocket's back blast.

The missile then uses an inertial navigation system to fly to where the launcher's targeting algorithm predicts the vehicle will be based on its prior trajectory.

In addition to ordinary direct-fire mode, the NLAW can also use a top-attack mode in which it flies one-meter above the targets and discharges a downward-facing shaped charge over a target vehicle. As top armor is universally pretty thin (ie. no more than a few centimeters) this could allow an NLAW to disable tanks with frontal protection exceeding the missile's reported penetrating power equivalent to 50 centimeters RHA. This can also enable targeting of vehicles mostly concealed behind cover.

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Nitro Power said:

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Is there any chance more countries get involved to help Ukraine with manpower, now that they have shown they at least have a punchers chance? Also as another poster pointed out their tech and strategies seem outdated.

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Very hard to bring in the heavy equipment and troops to do so in such a kinetic environment. The same things that plagued the Russian attempts to land paratroopers would likely befall any force trying to come in by air in numbers large enough to make a difference. Best thing anybody could do if they really want to help at this point militarily is keep sending the MANPADS and Anti tank weapons, and help the Ukrainians with air superiority. If they have not already been practicing with the Ukrainian AF though, it would be very difficult for another AF's planes to be effective without a high risk of friendly fire incidents.

If you believe the numbers they've lost more than their entire time in Afghanistan. The Russian mothers will be raising hell.

Build It said:

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If you believe the numbers they've lost more than their entire time in Afghanistan. The Russian Chechnyan mothers will be raising hell.

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FIFY. But hope somebody's mother knows where Putin can be found and somebody takes a shot...

Chipotlemonger said:

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WTF India? Come on

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Very limited info…IIRC India relies on Russian fertilizer to grow their food, so mass starvation may be their immediate abstain motivation.