***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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aggiehawg said:

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Several flashes/explosions recorded in the sea near Alupka, Crimea
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/20-august-several-flashesexplosions-recorded-in-the-sea-near
Yell at me all you want but I'm sensing we have a large CIA presence that is directing this.


Putin has also slapped down a lot of powerful or at least very wealthy peeps in the last year who might be vested, I mean interested in a change or chaos.

Or could be putin himself, he has his own likeness for arkancide.
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Ukrainians are training themselves on the A-10 warthogs, hoping to get some. They are also firing AGM-88 (anti radar missiles) from MiG-29's now, which is sort of incredible.
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I'm glad they missed him and got the daughter. Even if she was collateral damage so be it. It's not like a ton of innocent Ukrainians haven't been killed. But she's apparently far from innocent anyways. I just think it hits home more for the Russian elite. Likely this was internal and not Ukraine. Lots of Russians have been sent to die and I'm sure there are plenty of unhappy families in Russia seeing their kids being sent to die for absolutely nothing while the elite cruise around in Land Rovers. Hopefully this is just the beginning.
Probably going to take a lot more of this to hasten the end of this war.
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agent-maroon said:

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To read this in English you will need to put the link through Google Translate. It was posted to VK.com by a Russian VDV soldier named Pavel Filatyev. I have not read it all because it is nearly book-length. This is Filateyev's personal perspective on the Ukraine war. It is reminiscent of the book Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer who was conscripted to fight with the with the Wehrmacht in WWII on the eastern front fro 1942-45.

Filatyev is very candid aout the lies that the Russian army believed and what he thought the 'special military operation ' was about. For historians (@titan) and those who are interested inthe grunt level view of the Russian forces, it's worth scanning. Filatyev is pro-Russian but he's now very much anti-war and anti-Putin and had no respect for the Russian military chain of ommand/corruption. If his disaffection is typical of the VDV, to say nothing of the conscripted regular forces, the Russian military has no foundation left.

He talks about being sent into the war without even a functonal sleeping bag and nearly freezing and the horrible state of the RF equipment. The pat that I found most fascinating (so far as I ave read) was his account of interacting with te nurses at the hospital to which he had been evacuated after two months of seclusion in the combat zone from all news of the outside world. He realized that the RF soldiers have no idea what's happening outside their local AO and Russians at home, even in the army hospitals treating the wounded, have no idea of what's really happening in the fight or who they are fighting.

Filatyev was surprised to find no Russian speakers or people with Russian surnames in the LH and DH breakaways regions that had ever suffered persecution by the Ukrainians let alone the supposed Nazis that he was told were controlling Ukraine.

https://alternatewars.com/Ukraine2022/ZOV.htm
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Ulysses90 said:

To read this in English you will need to put the link through Google Translate. It was posted to VK.com by a Russian VDV soldier named Pavel Filatyev. I have not read it all because it is nearly book-length. This is Filateyev's personal perspective on the Ukraine war. It is reminiscent of the book Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer who was conscripted to fight with the with the Wehrmacht in WWII on the eastern front fro 1942-45.

Filatyev is very candid aout the lies that the Russian army believed and what he thought the 'special military operation ' was about. For historians (@titan) and those who are interested inthe grunt level view of the Russian forces, it's worth scanning. Filatyev is pro-Russian but he's now very much anti-war and anti-Putin and had no respect for the Russian military chain of ommand/corruption. If his disaffection is typical of the VDV, to say nothing of the conscripted regular forces, the Russian military has no foundation left.

He talks about being sent into the war without even a functonal sleeping bag and nearly freezing and the horrible state of the RF equipment. The pat that I found most fascinating (so far as I ave read) was his account of interacting with te nurses at the hospital to which he had been evacuated after two months of seclusion in the combat zone from all news of the outside world. He realized that the RF soldiers have no idea what's happening outside their local AO and Russians at home, even in the army hospitals treating the wounded, have no idea of what's really happening in the fight or who they are fighting.

Filatyev was surprised to find no Russian speakers or people with Russian surnames in the LH and DH breakaways regions that had ever suffered persecution by the Ukrainians let alone the supposed Nazis that he was told were controlling Ukraine.

https://alternatewars.com/Ukraine2022/ZOV.htm


I've read several articles in English giving Filatayevs perspective and cannot believe he's still above ground. Forgotten Soldier is an outstanding read providing good context for the difficulties in moving armor in Ukraine purely due to geography and weather.
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Here is Patel Filatyevs translation in English
https://czmyt.substack.com/p/zovpdf-machine-translation-to-english
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Today's SITREP.
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An ex-Russian MP says that an underground group within Russia called the National Republican Army is responsible for the death of Darya Dugina in the recent carbombing. Not sure how credible it is.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/21/ex-russian-mp-claims-russian-partisans-responsible-for-moscow-car-bomb

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A former member of Russia's Duma who was expelled for anti-Kremlin activities has claimed that Russian partisans were allegedly behind a car bomb which blew up the daughter of one of Vladimir Putin's close political allies on the outskirts of Moscow.

Speaking in Kyiv, where he is based, Ilya Ponomarev alleged the explosion on Saturday evening was the work of the National Republican Army, which he claimed was an underground group working inside Russia and dedicated to overthrowing the Putin regime.

The Guardian has not verified the authenticity of Ponomarev's claims. Russian commentators have blamed Ukraine for the attack, a claim Kyiv strongly denies.

"This action, like many other partisan actions carried out on the territory of Russia in recent months, was carried out by the National Republican Army (NRA)," Ponomarev said. He was speaking in a 7pm broadcast on February Morning, a Russian-language opposition TV channel he launched in Kyiv earlier this year.

He added: "A momentous event took place near Moscow last night. This attack opens a new page in Russian resistance to Putinism. New but not the last."
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The blast killed Darya Dugina, the 30-year-old daughter of the Russian political commentator and far-right ideologue Alexander Dugin, both of whom had been sanctioned by the UK and US for acting to destabilise Ukraine.

Ponomarev said partisans inside Russia were ready to conduct further similar attacks against high-profile Kremlin-connected targets, including officials, oligarchs and members of Russia's security agencies.
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I've been trying to find more information on this, but posted 14 hours ago (as I write this) on LiveUAMap:


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At Mykolaiv direction Russian forces conducting assault actions at Vasylki-Blahodatne direction, have partial success, seized southern part of Blahodatne village, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/21-august-at-mykolaiv-direction-russian-forces-conducting

Is Russia sending troops into a killing field? How are they supporting an offensive? Their bridges are cut!

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Waffledynamics said:

I've been trying to find more information on this, but posted 14 hours ago (as I write this) on LiveUAMap:


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At Mykolaiv direction Russian forces conducting assault actions at Vasylki-Blahodatne direction, have partial success, seized southern part of Blahodatne village, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/21-august-at-mykolaiv-direction-russian-forces-conducting

Is Russia sending troops into a killing field? How are they supporting an offensive? Their bridges are cut!


Didn't they move a ton of troops into the Kherson region to try and counter the Ukes? I suspect they escorted in a bunch of ammo/supply trucks and likely stockpiled some stuff north of the Dnipro. They won't show signs of supply strain this early. But my guess is if the Ukes can root out their ammo hidey holes and keep the pressure on, supplies will definitely begin to run thin.
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Russia continues to use people from the breakaway Donbas region as cannon-fodder. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for manpower.

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I suppose something is in the works.
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Interesting interview. Speak The Truth is starting to get their journalists' material on.
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Private PoopyPants said:



I suppose something is in the works.
Sounds like they want the freedom to shoot down anything that is in the skies without having to discriminate civilian aircraft.
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Private PoopyPants said:

I suppose something is in the works.
Aug 24 is Ukraine Independence Day.
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Bridge hit again.
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Regarding Dugin. More of a self-promoting zealot than a Kremlin insider.

Spectator: What the Dugin assassination tells us about Russia
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We likely will see some hurried arrests. No doubt there will be video footage of Federal Security Service officers bursting into a flat artfully staged with some bomb-making equipment, a gun, a teach-yourself-Ukrainian handbook, some US dollars and, maybe, a volume of Shakespeare (seriously: one was used as 'evidence' of the presence of British mercenaries fighting for Ukraine, as we all know squaddies are mad for a little King Lear). But we, and more to the point, the Russians, have seen it all before. This is unlikely to bring closure or reassurance. Instead, it is just one more hint of the subterranean instabilities and weaknesses of a regime that tries to look indomitable.
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Back to the Saki airbase strike in Crimea, this former seal says missile strike, not special forces

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My guess is we, through a third nation, supplied a small number of the long range rockets and guidance info.
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Thread on Darya Dugin



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If they have the longer range HIMARS they really should have targeted subs reloading. The psychological impact and cost of subs > airframe.

Maybe next round!
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I don't think people deserve assassination when they should have a trial if they are involved in crimes against people. This lady might be a terrible person who wouldn't be missed, and I suppose being involved in power politics under a ruthless dictatorship has clear risks when things start going bad.
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Waffledynamics said:




who can explain why you have 50 valuable military MRAP and vehicles lined up NOSE TO TAIL making a perfect bombing target?

why wouldn't you disperse them so at least there is a gap in distance between each one? it's like daring the Russkies to do something.

if the USAF was the aggressor force, that entire column would be a smoking wreck within 10 minutes.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

If they have the longer range HIMARS they really should have targeted subs reloading. The psychological impact and cost of subs > airframe.

Maybe next round!
Blowing up a nuclear powered sub in a port may be a delicate matter, however awesome it it would be.
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I think Russia is operating diesel subs in the black sea. They don't really need the endurance of a nuclear sub in that small of an area.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

I think Russia is operating diesel subs in the black sea. They don't really need the endurance of a nuclear sub in that small of an area.
If true, let 'er rip! I didn't realize they still operated any diesel-electrics any more, especially with missile capabilities. Others will surely know more than me in this area.
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LMCane said:

Waffledynamics said:




who can explain why you have 50 valuable military MRAP and vehicles lined up NOSE TO TAIL making a perfect bombing target?

why wouldn't you disperse them so at least there is a gap in distance between each one? it's like daring the Russkies to do something.

if the USAF was the aggressor force, that entire column would be a smoking wreck within 10 minutes.


Because they have to know it's there to do something and it's likely well outside their capability to do so anyway. Russia isn't launching cruise missiles or SRBM's at that column, and that area is likely denied to their aircraft.
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MouthBQ98 said:

I don't think people deserve assassination when they should have a trial if they are involved in crimes against people. This lady might be a terrible person who wouldn't be missed, and I suppose being involved in power politics under a ruthless dictatorship has clear risks when things start going bad.
In a perfect world, yes. But what tribunal is going to indict and try this instigator of genocide? Let's face it, in the world in which we find ourselves, she would never face justice, and would in fact become richer for selling her hate and propaganda. Not that I advocate her assassination, or even that of her father- there are much worse criminals populating the Kremlin who are more deserving of the death sentence she received. But how much do you want to bet that those criminals against humanity are hiding a little deeper in their basements now?
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MouthBQ98 said:

My guess is we, through a third nation, supplied a small number of the long range rockets and guidance info.


Multiple pages back I referenced wikipeadia on ATACMS which showed latest operators as Romania starting June 2022. Its also been widely commented that their use is strictly approved by USA, so subs may be off the table, though we helped them sink moskva, or risk nukes too great. Assuming there is evidence of 2-4 missile craters on that other massive ammo dump deep beyond the front and thats why overhead sat views have yet to be released.
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They have a handful of Kilo class subs, all diesel electric. They're designed for anti-ship and anti-submarine action (perfect for controlling the Black Sea), but they can carry cruise missiles as well.
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