***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Opion piece from WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-us-show-it-can-win-a-nuclear-war-russia-putin-ukraine-nato-sarmat-missile-testing-warning-11651067733

snipet from the article ... means more written stuff in the article

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The U.S. Should Show It Can Win a Nuclear War
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The reality is that unless the U.S. prepares to win a nuclear war, it risks losing one. Robert C. O'Brien, a former White House national security adviser, proposed a series of conventional responses, which are necessary but not sufficient to deter Russian nuclear escalation. Developing a coherent American strategy requires understanding why Russia threatens to use nuclear weapons and how the U.S. can recalibrate its strategic logic for a nuclear environment.
Russia's war is being fought on two levels. At the military level, the battlefields have been restricted to Ukrainian and, in a handful of instances, Russian territory. But the conflict is also a war against NATO, given Ukraine's position as an applicant, NATO's military support for Ukraine, and NATO's willingness to embargo Russian products and cut off Russian energy.
Mr. Putin had two objectives in going to war. First, he hoped to destroy Ukraine as an independent state. Russia planned to drive into Kyiv within hours, install a quisling government, and months later stage referendums throughout the country that would give the Kremlin direct control of its east and south. Aleksandr Lukashenko's Belarus, and perhaps the Central Asian despots, would fall in line. Mr. Putin would therefore reconstitute an empire stretching to the Polish border

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A nuclear war should never be fought. But the Kremlin seems willing to fight one, at least a limited one. If the U.S. demonstrates it is unwilling to do so, the chance that the Kremlin will use nuclear weapons becomes dangerously real.
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

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Internal Russian conflict.
Russia has a great talent for taking anyone of any background and turning them into absolute *****


Orcs….
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"State district power station caught fire on Sakhalin"

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Ag In Ok said:

As bigoted as they are, they must realize the only humans remaining will likely be indigenous South Americans and equatorial Africans. There would be no more Russian history as well - just something for another generation to discover just as the hittites.


I think you overestimate the power of nukes. Nukes will not destroy America. Even the worst nukes would destroy major metropolitan areas. There would be great areas that are not affected
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Wonder if some of these fires we're seeing are cyber attacks overloading circuits and the like.
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normaleagle05 said:

Wonder if some of these fires we're seeing are cyber attacks overloading circuits and the like.


Possible. We can covertly eff with them however we want as long as we do a halfway decent job of covering the tracks. What are they going to do? Start a war over it?
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Rossticus said:


I'm no artillery expert, but is that level of recoil normal?
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Update on workarounds for the European energy problem. For example, Poland will complete a pipeline to Norway this fall which will replace the gas it got from Russia.

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This is the best news I've heard since the F-16 story. Putin gunna get himself assassinated.
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normaleagle05 said:

Wonder if some of these fires we're seeing are cyber attacks overloading circuits and the like.


Either that or a lack of spare parts is causing some of these plants and factories to use dangerous equipment or jerry rigging it somehow.
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Rossticus said:

aggiehawg said:


Actually by not calling it an official war, Putin is limited in ordering conscription of troops. If they are in a declared war, he doesn't those restrictions.


Has to declare war to conscript more fresh faced Russians for the meat grinder.
Not sure more conscripts help , seems like new conscripts might have to walk to the front line and when they get there all they will have to resort to using " foul language " due to lack of weapons
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[This is the last derailing post that we are going to remove of yours without giving you a ban. -Staff]
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BattleGrackle said:

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Ag In Ok said:

China's arm would be twisted. Firmly.
In addition to neutering the Russian front lines.
Yeah. China would not be in a good spot if Putin fires off a nuke in Ukraine or even elsewhere.
Speaking of China. This might be some very high level messaging or some SM comic.

Either way I kind of like the map other than china but not sure whats out there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/ueswwl/chinese_state_television_showed_a_map_depicting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I wouldn't want any part of a map that gave us a land border with China. Just let Japan have our part. I noticed they got left off the map.


Why would Belarus get anything? They are an accomplice in all this, they should be absorbed too.



This is just a generic map where Russian territory is colored by which other nation it is geographically closest to. Japan is there, in white, but most Russian territory close to Japan is actually closer to China or Alaska. Basically if you are in Moscow, the closest foreign country away is Belarus, etc.
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Waffledynamics said:

This is a real concern. Russia cannot be allowed to encircle Ukrainian troops. If they cut them off and bleed/starve them to death, it's going to get very ugly. My hope is that Ukraine continues to pull their cede-and-counter strategy and never get encircled.

Maybe just me, but I have a hard time reading these maps without a map scale. In case anyone else is also suffering .... the distance between Izyum and Slovyansk is about 25 miles ... so the Ukrainian pocket is about 15-20 miles in diameter. Here's a sat view ... they have tree cover near their rear.

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I am not the expert on nuclear warfare (I spent many years of my life sleeping between nuclear missiles but doesn't make me an expert) but I have heard that after enough nuclear detonations there'd be a nuclear winter where all mankind dies due to freezing to death.
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lobopride said:

I am not the expert on nuclear warfare (I spent many years of my life sleeping between nuclear missiles but doesn't make me an expert) but I have heard that after enough nuclear detonations there'd be a nuclear winter where all mankind dies due to freezing to death.


Depends on how they're used, yields, HoB, etc.
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The theory is that bombs dropped over major cities and/or areas prone to wildfires would cause massive, long-term fires which would push huge amounts of ash into the atmosphere. As the theory goes, some of the ash could be heated to the point it lifts above the weather areas of the atmosphere so it would persist for quite a long time.
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Nuclear winter is a theory personally I think if there was a significant exchange of nuclear weapons. Places where people rely on electricity, refined oil products, medicine, would fare very poorly. All of those thing would be in short supply for years after a nuclear exchange
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Agree - major nuclear exchange could be a reset on civilization (and the ease of life and customs that we are accustomed to). Nuclear winter could possibly happen, but this relies on much of the same modeling as climate change with all of its unknowns, warts, and agendas……
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Ulysses90 said:

[This is the last derailing post that we are going to remove of yours without giving you a ban. -Staff]


STAFF: Guilty as charged. It was a derail on top of a post that was also derail and nothingto do with events in Ukraine.

The thread is title, "Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates". How many posts containing nothing but spitballing guesswork on the global and US local effects of a nuclear exchange are appropriate for "Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates?"

Don't these posts belong on the "Data-free Conjecture on Nuclear Armageddon" thread rather than the Ukraine event updates? I'm genuinely interested in the answer to understand the moderation criteria for the topic.

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sclaff said:

Rossticus said:

I hate it when I'm right about things I don't want to be right about. Still hope I'm not right. Please be wrong.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1519560504712253440.html

Good read, thanks for posting. A mass mobilization cannot happen overnight nor even in six months to properly train and equip them.
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Staff, Ulysses90 is one of the few legit Texas Aggie warfighters posting here. His query to you about moderation is thoughtful and valid.
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Nice primer on how the arrival of modern western artillery may be a game-changer for Ukraine.

BIG GUNS
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74OA said:

Nice primer on how the arrival of modern western artillery may be a game-changer for Ukraine.

BIG GUNS
your link doesn't work for me.
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shiftyandquick said:

74OA said:

Nice primer on how the arrival of modern western artillery may be a game-changer for Ukraine.

BIG GUNS
your link doesn't work for me.
https://archive.ph/ZxVsP
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Captain Positivity said:


The Russians are passionate about ergonomics, I see.

It's a reflection of their advanced humanist society.
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