***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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aggiehawg said:

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aggiehawg said:

Thanks. Really hard to follow and understand everything.


Part of info missing is likely that 2 rockets were fired. One failed or was taken out and the other impacted as targeted.
Then where are the parts of the warhead? Wouldn't there be some evidence? A crater? Other parts somewhere?


I don't believe that for a short range ballistic missile it is necessary to design it to have the warhead separate from the rocket booster. It's not as if the warhead is an orbital reentry vehicle from an ICBM. For a properry functioning explosive warhead there shouldn't be any large pieces of the rocket body intact. The rocket body becomes part o the fragmentation.

That makes me think that this particular rocket is not one that detonated at the train station and it probably didn't detonate at all. It may have been a dud (as a lot of Russian ordnance is), it could have been intercepted in the air, or it could have been a "low-order detontion" which means it's a partial dud. Another possibility is that it was intentionally sabotaged so that the message on the side would be read i.e., a psyop tool.
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aggiehawg said:

JFABNRGR said:

aggiehawg said:

Thanks. Really hard to follow and understand everything.


Part of info missing is likely that 2 rockets were fired. One failed or was taken out and the other impacted as targeted.
Then where are the parts of the warhead? Wouldn't there be some evidence? A crater? Other parts somewhere?


The other plausible cause, is there is likely a heavily reinforced bulkhead between the high explosives and the the rocket fuel. In air burst mode 20M above target etc the explosion force pushes against the bulkhead and forces it away from the explosion itself, enough to protect the fuselage portion of the rocket from being completely destroyed. I am not a rocket man but those are my two cents.
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WTF, human trafficking? Russia needs to be taught a lesson
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I think this speaks volumes of this War. Russia is sending, to a great extent, its poorest (many marginalized ethnic minorities who can't pay the bribe to avoid conscription) to fight in Ukraine. Nobody in Russia is volunteering to fight in Ukraine.

Ukraine's best and brightest civilians are fighting along side their professional military and military veterans from around the world are volunteering to join them. Definitely a contributing factor in them punching above their weight, IMO.

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How convenient. Russia says that since they're going to assume (with zero evidence at all) that orphaned Ukrainian childrens' Ukrainian parents would have wanted to be Russian anyway, that it only makes sense for them to be adopted by Russians. Sick. Sick. Sick. Evil.

https://riamo.ru/article/547852/detej-sirot-pribyvshih-iz-donbassa-v-podmoskove-mogut-usynovit-v-rossii-xl

Translated from Russian:

"Orphans who come from Donbass to the Moscow region may be adopted in Russia"


"Residents of Russia express a desire to adopt orphans from the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics, which are now in the Moscow region, Ekaterina Semenova, Commissioner for Human Rights in the Moscow Region, said at a press conference at RIAMO.

"In the first days, we were approached by parents who knew <...> that orphans had arrived in Russia," Semenova said.

According to her, adoption and guardianship procedures are planned to be simplified so that Russians can draw up documents without leaving for the LDPR.

The Commissioner also said that orphans from Donbass come to the Moscow region for three years for rehabilitation.

She added that joint points at the migration service of the Russian Federation and the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics will be opened in the territories where refugees from the LDPR are located.

"Most people who are in PVR want to obtain Russian citizenship. This served for the Commissioner for Human Rights (Tatiana Moskalkova - ed.) to make a proposal that was accepted by our colleagues from the DPR and LPR - to speed up the issuance of Russian passports," Semenova specified."

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Rossticus said:


It isn't "appropriate" for Russia to get away with slaughtering innocent civilians, raping a country, and stealing its children either. We are beyond "appropriate" and into good versus evil. I would like to see evil punched in the mouth and sent back to Moscow with its tail between its legs.
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Literally everything that Ukraine is doing is defensive. Even Ukrainian offensives are defensive because of the nature of this war. To win this war they have to kill Russians. Lots of them. If we don't provide them the means to ultimately do so then we've basically engaged in multi-billion dollar virtue signaling.

I for one will be royally pissed if our country pisses of this degree of money and materials without the intent of seeing it through and providing the support to ensure a win.
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GAC06 said:

It says the whole missile flies to the target. That implies that large sections found are failed or shot down
Or just survived the explosion. The explosion is usually directed downwards, and the engine is probably the most robust part of the missile. Just like plane engines often "survive" crashes.
As stated, could also have been shot down.
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This is SO Russia. Just EPIC.



Translation:
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BQ78 said:

They can't work on jet engines?
It just takes training and time. The Ukrainian's aren't stupid.
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Dawg6 said:

BQ78 said:

They can't work on jet engines?
It just takes training and time. The Ukrainian's aren't stupid.
True. And as someone mentioned already, M1s are going to be a severe logistical problem. Not just the engine and fuel but weight is going to be.a significant issue, The Ukes don't have the infra to transport them, bridges, trucks, rail cars etc. are unlikely to support them.
Look at the Russians, they've had to stick to roads (for a variety of terrain/logistical issues), and their tanks are about 15-20 tons lighter.

M1s might be a possibility during peacetime, but it would be too much of a logistical headache in the middle of a war.
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Putin knows that the accelerating delivery of more, better, and "heavier" weapons to Ukraine from multiple countries will greatly impact the success of his upcoming focus on securing capture of eastern Ukraine. I anticipate Putin's concentrated attack will begin very soon and be as intense and ruthless as possible, attempting to mitigate the impact of the new arms deliveries.
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Yet another article that may as well be titled "Germany is a giant hypocritical Chicken****".

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512370776523120643.html

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Kramatorsk. Graphic.



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512378306351570946.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512379004573081610.html
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Posting as-is because the subjects are blurred so you can't see graphic details. But you get the idea none the less.



GRAPHIC:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512491721464197126.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1512660462244179970.html
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Many more lives may have been saved by an anti-missile system yesterday.
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