***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Russia reportedly lost a second scarce AEW aircraft today. The highly trained crew loss is as damaging as the lost aircraft.

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74OA said:

Russian reportedly lost a second scarce AEW aircraft successfully intercepted multiple anti-aircraft missiles today.

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lb3 said:

74OA said:

Russian reportedly lost a second scarce AEW aircraft successfully intercepted multiple anti-aircraft missiles today and transformed itself into a ground-based firefighting demonstration platform.

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Back at ya.......

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I'm pretty sure that was their last operational A-50.
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PJYoung said:

I'm pretty sure that was their last operational A-50.
The numbers vary by source, but last I read this would bring the RAF down to seven operational A-50s--and that's to defend all of Russia, not just cover Ukraine.
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I think you missed the joke. The plane did successfully intercept the missiles...with its fuselage.
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They have several, but they're stretched thin. Their crews are also probably ****ing bricks right now because they know Russia can't protect these aircraft. Either the Ukrainians are capable of shooting them down, or the Russians are so trigger happy they'll do it for them.
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74OA said:

PJYoung said:

I'm pretty sure that was their last operational A-50.
The numbers vary by source, but last I read this would bring the RAF down to seven operational A-50s--and that's to defend all of Russia, not just cover Ukraine.
Yeah and I guess who knows how many of those seven are in service at any one time.

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Either way, it's a devastating blow for the battered Russian air force. The air arm has lost, mostly to Ukrainian long-range surface-to-air missilesAmerican-made Patriot PAC-2s, in particularnine of its best planes in just a month. Including an A-50 that the Ukrainians hit over the Sea of Azov in January.

Prior to that earlier shoot-down, the Russian air force had just nine modernized A-50M/Us. Now it's down to seven, just a few of which are active at any given time.

The A-50s play important supporting roles in Russia's two-year wider war on Ukraine. They help to detect incoming Ukrainian missile raids and also relay radio signals from front-line forces to their headquarters, which might be hundreds of miles away.
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I hope the Ukes are still going after SAM sites, this will clear the way for F16s. If Ukes can get an air advantage then they will have a chance. They must have ability to drop cluster bombs and napalm on entrenched positions.
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74OA said:

Back at ya.......


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txags92 said:

I think you missed the joke. The plane did successfully intercept the missiles...with its fuselage.
I got it. Was just playing along.....
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74OA said:

txags92 said:

I think you missed the joke. The plane did successfully intercept the missiles...with its fuselage.
I got it. Was just playing along.....
If it crashes over the Black Sea or the Sea of Azov, does it now get included in their growing submersible navy?
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EastSideAg2002 said:

74OA said:

txags92 said:

I think you missed the joke. The plane did successfully intercept the missiles...with its fuselage.
I got it. Was just playing along.....
If it crashes over the Black Sea or the Sea of Azov, does it now get included in their growing submersible navy?


It crashed over land. It now identifies as ground based air defense.
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EastSideAg2002 said:

74OA said:

txags92 said:

I think you missed the joke. The plane did successfully intercept the missiles...with its fuselage.
I got it. Was just playing along.....
If it crashes over the Black Sea or the Sea of Azov, does it now get included in their growing submersible navy?
Just building a nice artificial reef to fight global warming.
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2wealfth Man said:

74OA said:

Back at ya.......


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74OA said:

revvie said:

This an interesting tidbit on changing tactics in Ukraine,if true that Russian has some success in jamming US precision guided weapons

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-war-has-shown-the-us-its-expensive-gps-guided-munitions-aren-t-as-effective-as-it-thought-report/ar-BB1iLgZq?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=89201c76e6d2446e9c1e459586a06522&ei=21
Almost all US precision/near-precision munitions use INS for primary guidance with GPS providing updates after launch. Losing/degrading GPS means those munition's CEP is modestly expanded, which typically leaves them still operationally effective against most targets excluding some which are hardened/buried.
I have seen estimates of CEP for HIMARS at 5m or less and I suspect it is on the less side knowing our military published data to underestimate capabilities. So a hardened target the size truck might still survive a HIMAR attack, but little else.
74OA
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More detail on the A-50 shootdown.

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AlaskanAg99 said:

I hope the Ukes are still going after SAM sites, this will clear the way for F16s. If Ukes can get an air advantage then they will have a chance. They must have ability to drop cluster bombs and napalm on entrenched positions.


Are we sure orcs didn't shoot down their own plane?

And another SU34 downed as well.
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JFABNRGR said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I hope the Ukes are still going after SAM sites, this will clear the way for F16s. If Ukes can get an air advantage then they will have a chance. They must have ability to drop cluster bombs and napalm on entrenched positions.


Are we sure orcs didn't shoot down their own plane?

And another SU34 downed as well.
I'm not sure which is worse, admitting they shot their own plane down or admitting that Ukraine did.
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Once F-16s are confirmed in theater the Russian air defense operators will down every Russian jet in the sky.
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74OA said:

Russia reportedly lost a second scarce AEW aircraft today. The highly trained crew loss is as damaging as the lost aircraft.

A-50


If you're shooting down your own aircraft, why would you admit it?

Clown show!
74OA
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Back to reality. Ukraine's ammo shortage is fast approaching a completely avoidable catastrophe.

Today's SITREP.
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Absolute travesty what our congress is doing. I'm a lifelong Republican but this is terrible.
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docb said:

Absolute travesty what our congress is doing. I'm a lifelong Republican but this is terrible.
One solution is to temporarily buy outside the US/EU until production ramps up. The US is jammed up for money at the moment, but the EU could do it.

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Gilligan said:

74OA said:

Russia reportedly lost a second scarce AEW aircraft today. The highly trained crew loss is as damaging as the lost aircraft.

A-50


If you're shooting down your own aircraft, why would you admit it?

Clown show!


Because Russian equipment and training is so great that it is inconceivable that sub human nazi Ukrainians could shoot them down. So it must be Russian air defense perhaps suborned by NATO fascist infiltrators.

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SouthTex99 said:

74OA said:

Drone wars. Ukraine UAVs repeatedly hit Russian armor hiding inside a warehouse. Wherever it was, it's at the extreme range of those UAVs as they're all displaying "low battery" or "land now" warnings.

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These videos are incredibly satisfying to watch. $5,200 in drones taking out tens of millions in Russian military equipment.


And scary. Because we're the 800 pound gorilla in other theaters, with the huge advantage in expensive weapons platforms that are equally vulnerable to the radio shack kamikazes.
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I'm wondering if the Orcs getting blinder and blinder (due to the loss of assets such these A-50's) are resulting in the crazy amount of planes we have seen shot down over the past week or so by Ukrainian AD
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docb said:

Absolute travesty what our congress is doing. I'm a lifelong Republican but this is terrible.
Playing politics.
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PJYoung said:

docb said:

Absolute travesty what our congress is doing. I'm a lifelong Republican but this is terrible.
Playing politics.
Just waiting for Super Tuesday is past to vote
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Who had a S-200 on their Bingo card?

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Rossticus said:

LOL
Seriously. Built in the 60s and copied from a 1959 Cadillac.

AlaskanAg99
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Gilligan said:

74OA said:

Russia reportedly lost a second scarce AEW aircraft today. The highly trained crew loss is as damaging as the lost aircraft.

A-50


If you're shooting down your own aircraft, why would you admit it?

Clown show!


They're happy they hit something.
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