Union Pacific Weighs Avoiding Los Angeles as Cargo Theft Rises

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I never knew that UPS and FedEx use trains.
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eric76 said:

I never knew that UPS and FedEx use trains.

Mainly, they ferry the FedEx and UPS trailers
Marcus Brutus
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So for the transportation experts...

If they do this, does it hurt LA or Cali?

If so, then full speed ahead.
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Ahhh. Thanks.

I don't see trains very often these days. They took out the tracks running through here decades ago.
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TxTarpon said:




This looks....like a lot of fun.
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eric76 said:

TxTarpon said:


Memo to Cali's: This is how you should do a train robbery.
Not that third world looting stuff
I think that it used to be common for ranch cowboys to flag down the train to board without going to the train station.

There is a story about a rancher some years ago who had taken his cattle by train to someplace to sell (probably Chicago) and was returning home by train with the money.

Looking out the window, he saw two or three ranch cowboys flagging down the train. He immediately got up and went to the bathroom for a minute and then came back and sat down.

It turned out that they were train robbers, not ranch cowboys, and they went through the cars taking everyone's money. They took the few dollars that the rancher who had sold the cattle had on him.

After they left the train, the rancher went back to the bathroom and got his money out of the water tank where he had put it a few minutes earlier earlier.

When asked how he knew that they were train robbers rather than ranch cowboys, he pointed out that the brands on their horses didn't match. If they were actually ranch cowboys, the brands would have been the same on all the horses.
Your story is likely aprocraphal. The toilets didn't have water tanks, they just emptied out on the tracks.
Trump will fix it.
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Rockdoc said:

hedge said:

Not my state. Not my problem

You never use the services of Amazon, FedEx, UPS? Ok.
Do you understand what makes goods more expensive nationwide? How old are you?


The GB joke is that he still lives with his parents because he just moved out.


Or so he says.
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techno-ag said:

eric76 said:

TxTarpon said:


Memo to Cali's: This is how you should do a train robbery.
Not that third world looting stuff
I think that it used to be common for ranch cowboys to flag down the train to board without going to the train station.

There is a story about a rancher some years ago who had taken his cattle by train to someplace to sell (probably Chicago) and was returning home by train with the money.

Looking out the window, he saw two or three ranch cowboys flagging down the train. He immediately got up and went to the bathroom for a minute and then came back and sat down.

It turned out that they were train robbers, not ranch cowboys, and they went through the cars taking everyone's money. They took the few dollars that the rancher who had sold the cattle had on him.

After they left the train, the rancher went back to the bathroom and got his money out of the water tank where he had put it a few minutes earlier earlier.

When asked how he knew that they were train robbers rather than ranch cowboys, he pointed out that the brands on their horses didn't match. If they were actually ranch cowboys, the brands would have been the same on all the horses.
Your story is likely aprocraphal. The toilets didn't have water tanks, they just emptied out on the tracks.
I thought it might be for water to go in the sink to wash their hands afterwards. It would probably take a pretty large water tank if they were flushing the crapper with it, but not so much if just to wash hands.
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eric76 said:

techno-ag said:

eric76 said:

TxTarpon said:


Memo to Cali's: This is how you should do a train robbery.
Not that third world looting stuff
I think that it used to be common for ranch cowboys to flag down the train to board without going to the train station.

There is a story about a rancher some years ago who had taken his cattle by train to someplace to sell (probably Chicago) and was returning home by train with the money.

Looking out the window, he saw two or three ranch cowboys flagging down the train. He immediately got up and went to the bathroom for a minute and then came back and sat down.

It turned out that they were train robbers, not ranch cowboys, and they went through the cars taking everyone's money. They took the few dollars that the rancher who had sold the cattle had on him.

After they left the train, the rancher went back to the bathroom and got his money out of the water tank where he had put it a few minutes earlier earlier.

When asked how he knew that they were train robbers rather than ranch cowboys, he pointed out that the brands on their horses didn't match. If they were actually ranch cowboys, the brands would have been the same on all the horses.
Your story is likely aprocraphal. The toilets didn't have water tanks, they just emptied out on the tracks.
I thought it might be for water to go in the sink to wash their hands afterwards. It would probably take a pretty large water tank if they were flushing the crapper with it, but not so much if just to wash hands.
I'm just messing with you.
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Bullets are a great deterrent.
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Take the looters to the.........


Lex Talionis.......Ordo Seclorum
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techno-ag said:

eric76 said:

techno-ag said:

eric76 said:

TxTarpon said:


Memo to Cali's: This is how you should do a train robbery.
Not that third world looting stuff
I think that it used to be common for ranch cowboys to flag down the train to board without going to the train station.

There is a story about a rancher some years ago who had taken his cattle by train to someplace to sell (probably Chicago) and was returning home by train with the money.

Looking out the window, he saw two or three ranch cowboys flagging down the train. He immediately got up and went to the bathroom for a minute and then came back and sat down.

It turned out that they were train robbers, not ranch cowboys, and they went through the cars taking everyone's money. They took the few dollars that the rancher who had sold the cattle had on him.

After they left the train, the rancher went back to the bathroom and got his money out of the water tank where he had put it a few minutes earlier earlier.

When asked how he knew that they were train robbers rather than ranch cowboys, he pointed out that the brands on their horses didn't match. If they were actually ranch cowboys, the brands would have been the same on all the horses.
Your story is likely aprocraphal. The toilets didn't have water tanks, they just emptied out on the tracks.
I thought it might be for water to go in the sink to wash their hands afterwards. It would probably take a pretty large water tank if they were flushing the crapper with it, but not so much if just to wash hands.
I'm just messing with you.
Okay.

If I remember correctly, the account was in a book about a ranch in the Oklahoma Panhandle. I think it was Panhandle Cowboy by John R Erickson.
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eric76 said:

I never knew that UPS and FedEx use trains.


TOFC (trailer on flat car) & COFC (container on flat car). They have entire trains with nothing on them but FedEx, Swift, UPS. They're also the fastest trains they run and take priority over everything but Amtrak.
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Need to pass federal laws allowing railroad to shoot trespassers in the freight yard, no questions asked. Must specifically preempt state laws.

A few dead looters would solve this.
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So if you use FedEx 2 day shipping from a company in California, will this affect you? I assume FedEx 2 day uses air travel.
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No, 2 day delivery won't go on a train, takes way too long.

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Burdizzo said:

Railroad police used to have the toughest reputations around. What happened?


UP fired most of theirs to pad the bottom line
Gig 'Em
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Anonymous Source said:

Burdizzo said:

Railroad police used to have the toughest reputations around. What happened?


UP fired most of theirs to pad the bottom line

So it's UP's fault? LOL

Curious... you support shoot to kill for trespassers. Would you also support shoot to kill for the thieves robbing these trains?
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eric76 said:

techno-ag said:

eric76 said:

TxTarpon said:


Memo to Cali's: This is how you should do a train robbery.
Not that third world looting stuff
I think that it used to be common for ranch cowboys to flag down the train to board without going to the train station.

There is a story about a rancher some years ago who had taken his cattle by train to someplace to sell (probably Chicago) and was returning home by train with the money.

Looking out the window, he saw two or three ranch cowboys flagging down the train. He immediately got up and went to the bathroom for a minute and then came back and sat down.

It turned out that they were train robbers, not ranch cowboys, and they went through the cars taking everyone's money. They took the few dollars that the rancher who had sold the cattle had on him.

After they left the train, the rancher went back to the bathroom and got his money out of the water tank where he had put it a few minutes earlier earlier.

When asked how he knew that they were train robbers rather than ranch cowboys, he pointed out that the brands on their horses didn't match. If they were actually ranch cowboys, the brands would have been the same on all the horses.
Your story is likely aprocraphal. The toilets didn't have water tanks, they just emptied out on the tracks.
I thought it might be for water to go in the sink to wash their hands afterwards. It would probably take a pretty large water tank if they were flushing the crapper with it, but not so much if just to wash hands.
Didn't think they were that knowledgeable on hygiene back then to have water tanks on trains available for handwashing. Seems pretty extravagant for rail travel, what era was this?
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Anonymous Source said:

Burdizzo said:

Railroad police used to have the toughest reputations around. What happened?


UP fired most of theirs to pad the bottom line


You support shoot to kill for trespassers. Would you also support shoot to kill for the thieves robbing these trains?
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Maybe when Pete gets his baby weaned he can look into it.
Pretty sure most of you don’t know me.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:


Didn't think they were that knowledgeable on hygiene back then to have water tanks on trains available for handwashing. Seems pretty extravagant for rail travel, what era was this?
You would be surprised to know that even early to mid 1800s passenger cars had "toilets" and water. Granted early on it was a tiny compartment where people did their business and it would dump directly on to the tracks below.

Edit: Sorry I meant to say early to mid 1800s they had sh**ters on board. Very crude holes to the tracks, but there were places to take a piss.
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I guess that makes sense due to elite riding trains back then. Better than a greyhound bus trip in 2020 I bet.
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Yea I couldn't imagine being on one of those trains going across the west during the summer. No AC, minimal bathroom and probably room temp drinking water.
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Ag87H2O said:





We used to know how to handle this crap.


You couldn't get an arrest or conviction today. No reward would be earned under those terms.
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Marcus Brutus said:

Anonymous Source said:

Burdizzo said:

Railroad police used to have the toughest reputations around. What happened?


UP fired most of theirs to pad the bottom line


You support shoot to kill for trespassers. Would you also support shoot to kill for the thieves robbing these trains?
I support the railroad police...much like the Capitol police...enforcing their jurisdictions in manners that they see fit, and if that includes someone getting shot, so be it. Much like another case, they shouldn't be there.
Gig 'Em
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There appears to have been a major derailment along that very section of track.



I've also noticed the road adjacent to that section of track has a bunch of abandoned RVs parked along the side. Probably being used by homeless people. Real nice place it looks to be.

(Apologies for the video guy)
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torrid said:

There appears to have been a major derailment along that very section of track.




Link?

It amazing how hard it is to derail a train. I remember watching this video, I think from an old post here.
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Agthatbuilds said:

torrid said:

There appears to have been a major derailment along that very section of track.




Link?

It amazing how hard it is to derail a train. I remember watching this video, I think from an old post here.

No telling if it was cause by the crash, or something deliberate by someone looking for more loot.

https://apnews.com/article/california-los-angeles-theft-f02c36d2fd0e0384006ab44b0a694466
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Anonymous Source said:

Marcus Brutus said:

Anonymous Source said:

Burdizzo said:

Railroad police used to have the toughest reputations around. What happened?


UP fired most of theirs to pad the bottom line


You support shoot to kill for trespassers. Would you also support shoot to kill for the thieves robbing these trains?
I support the railroad police...much like the Capitol police...enforcing their jurisdictions in manners that they see fit, and if that includes someone getting shot, so be it. Much like another case, they shouldn't be there.

In manners they see fit?! So no regard for excessive force, etc... Excessive force is a thing. You know, like in the Floyd case, et al.

I don't believe you. you are OK with a Trump supporter being murdered. If they started killing these thieves, you'd scream at the top of your lungs about excessive force.
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LOL
Wells Fargo was a crap bank 150 years ago.
Those people robbing the stage were just dissatisfied customers trying to get back their bank fees.
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Marcus Brutus said:

Anonymous Source said:

Marcus Brutus said:

Anonymous Source said:

Burdizzo said:

Railroad police used to have the toughest reputations around. What happened?


UP fired most of theirs to pad the bottom line


You support shoot to kill for trespassers. Would you also support shoot to kill for the thieves robbing these trains?
I support the railroad police...much like the Capitol police...enforcing their jurisdictions in manners that they see fit, and if that includes someone getting shot, so be it. Much like another case, they shouldn't be there.

In manners they see fit?! So no regard for excessive force, etc... Excessive force is a thing. You know, like in the Floyd case, et al.

I don't believe you. you are OK with a Trump supporter being murdered. If they started killing these thieves, you'd scream at the top of your lungs about excessive force.

I like the way he worked the capitol police into this thread. Lol never give up!
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Satellite of Love said:

Yea I couldn't imagine being on one of those trains going across the west during the summer. No AC, minimal bathroom and probably room temp drinking water.


Un-air conditioned train at 5 mph with stops every 5-10 miles probably beat the hell out of a wagon or walking.
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Libs have turned a lovely state into a **** hole
 
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