hedge said:
And trump sounds like the pope 24/7 right? Mr billionaire New Yorker is a average Joe like you and me
What are you talking about?
Tucker takes Ted Cruz to the Woodshed
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What are you talking about?
I still had the feel watching Ted yesterday and tonight that he is a man who was coerced into saying what he did yesterday by some very powerful persons and threats. I do not believe that his words were inadvertent or that they were uttered voluntarily by him as any statement of his own beliefs.
hedge said:
And trump sounds like the pope 24/7 right? Mr billionaire New Yorker is a average Joe like you and me
Apples and Oranges
Cruz is a professional speaker. He is a debate champion. He is an excellent scholar and wordsmith. He can memorize thousands of words and recite them easily in speeches.
He didn't "mess" up when he said that.
Pookers said:
This thread is quite demoralizing. We have a politician slipping up and telling us what he actually thinks and we are here making excuses for him and letting them off the hook.
This. I don't believe for one nanosecond that he said "violent terrorist attack" by mistake. How do you even mistakenly do that?
Cruz talks a slick game and is great at dunking on apparatchiks in committee hearings, but sadly seems to be just like all the rest.
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
Definitely let's get rid of Cruz 'cause his words (that he immediately took back) hurt y'all's feelz. I take pride knowing it's just the "libtards" who are guided by emotion rather than reason. /eye roll
B-1 83 said:https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/sen-cruz-introduces-stop-the-surge-act-to-hold-pres-biden-and-democrat-colleagues-accountable-for-ignoring-their-man-made-border-crisisBAP Enthusiast said:B-1 83 said:And F16 is standing at the ready to do exactly that for a more "conservative" candidate…..91AggieLawyer said:TAMU1990 said:
He made a mistake and is willing to say so. Cruz does so many things that are good for conservatives. He defends regular Americans and there are very few like him up there. No need to continue the circular firing squad.
I agree. This is exactly what the left wants: conservatives tearing down their own at the least little hint of a mistake.
https://heritageaction.com/scorecard/members/C001098
This **** means nothing. Their conservative scores mean nothing. What the **** do these Senators do in Washington? Who cares how these jackasses vote when the country is falling under tyranny by the left? I literally could not care less about any of this *****
What ****ing matters right now is Covid lockdowns, the vaccine mandate, and the border. Literally nothing else matters. Why? Because WE WON'T HAVE A DAMN COUNTRU WORTH SAVING IF WE DON'T STOP THESE THINGS NOW!
Cruz is part of the damn problem. He's thrown his own constituents under the bus and decided to be a swamp rat for no damn reason. He should be screaming at the top of his lungs daily against the mandate and for border control, but he doesn't. Why?
https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-fights-to-block-the-american-government-from-establishing-covid-vaccine-passports
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2021/07/28/sen--ted-cruz--gov--abbott-decry-updated-cdc-mask-guidance--refer-to-it-as--mandate--
I read your post as "thank you sir may I have another."
Not enough. When I said daily, I mean it should be the only things he ever talks about and he should be hammering these points on every single media source he can find.
When the country is falling under tyranny, just mentioning them once or putting forth a bill is not enough. He should be ripping the administration constantly, but he doesn't do this. It should be a daily thing. I'm tired of pansy politicians who just let us get kicked in the balls while they put forth useless bills that do nothing or think voting matters in the Senate.
If a politician is not willing to fight so hard he could potentially get arrested then he's useless at this point in time.
Where have you been? He's been screaming against the mandate and for border control this entire year.BAP Enthusiast said:B-1 83 said:And F16 is standing at the ready to do exactly that for a more "conservative" candidate…..91AggieLawyer said:TAMU1990 said:
He made a mistake and is willing to say so. Cruz does so many things that are good for conservatives. He defends regular Americans and there are very few like him up there. No need to continue the circular firing squad.
I agree. This is exactly what the left wants: conservatives tearing down their own at the least little hint of a mistake.
https://heritageaction.com/scorecard/members/C001098
This **** means nothing. Their conservative scores mean nothing. What the **** do these Senators do in Washington? Who cares how these jackasses vote when the country is falling under tyranny by the left? I literally could not care less about any of this *****
What ****ing matters right now is Covid lockdowns, the vaccine mandate, and the border. Literally nothing else matters. Why? Because WE WON'T HAVE A DAMN COUNTRU WORTH SAVING IF WE DON'T STOP THESE THINGS NOW!
Cruz is part of the damn problem. He's thrown his own constituents under the bus and decided to be a swamp rat for no damn reason. He should be screaming at the top of his lungs daily against the mandate and for border control, but he doesn't. Why?
RebelE Infantry said:Pookers said:
This thread is quite demoralizing. We have a politician slipping up and telling us what he actually thinks and we are here making excuses for him and letting them off the hook.
This. I don't believe for one nanosecond that he said "violent terrorist attack" by mistake. How do you even mistakenly do that?
Cruz talks a slick game and is great at dunking on apparatchiks in committee hearings, but sadly seems to be just like all the rest.
I think one of the biggest conservatives in the Senate is allowed one slip up before calling him like the rest.
BOOM15 said:RebelE Infantry said:Pookers said:
This thread is quite demoralizing. We have a politician slipping up and telling us what he actually thinks and we are here making excuses for him and letting them off the hook.
This. I don't believe for one nanosecond that he said "violent terrorist attack" by mistake. How do you even mistakenly do that?
Cruz talks a slick game and is great at dunking on apparatchiks in committee hearings, but sadly seems to be just like all the rest.
I think one of the biggest conservatives in the Senate is allowed one slip up before calling him like the rest.
He should have taken the Supreme Court gig when it was offered to him.TAMU1990 said:
He made a mistake and is willing to say so. Cruz does so many things that are good for conservatives. He defends regular Americans and there are very few like him up there. No need to continue the circular firing squad.
He killed the only chance he ever had at a national office short of riding DeSantis' coat tails to the Naval Observatory.
Give me a break. Ted is a smart guy. He said exactly what he meant to say when he said it was a terror attack.
BOOM15 said:RebelE Infantry said:Pookers said:
This thread is quite demoralizing. We have a politician slipping up and telling us what he actually thinks and we are here making excuses for him and letting them off the hook.
This. I don't believe for one nanosecond that he said "violent terrorist attack" by mistake. How do you even mistakenly do that?
Cruz talks a slick game and is great at dunking on apparatchiks in committee hearings, but sadly seems to be just like all the rest.
I think one of the biggest conservatives in the Senate is allowed one slip up before calling him like the rest.
So the options here are:
A- he said it on purpose and now is trying to walk it back because everyone is pissed.
B- he chose his words so poorly they came out 180 degrees from the truth. This is a guy who was solicitor general for the state of Texas.
C- he didn't mean what he said because he was on autopilot or whatever. Which means he just says what people want to hear and doesn't think about what he's saying.
All of these are a horrible horrible look and amount to a little more than a "slip up." I mean it's not like this is some trivial matter that he has to speak about to a rotary club.
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
TAMU1990 said:Where have you been? He's been screaming against the mandate and for border control this entire year.BAP Enthusiast said:B-1 83 said:And F16 is standing at the ready to do exactly that for a more "conservative" candidate…..91AggieLawyer said:TAMU1990 said:
He made a mistake and is willing to say so. Cruz does so many things that are good for conservatives. He defends regular Americans and there are very few like him up there. No need to continue the circular firing squad.
I agree. This is exactly what the left wants: conservatives tearing down their own at the least little hint of a mistake.
https://heritageaction.com/scorecard/members/C001098
This **** means nothing. Their conservative scores mean nothing. What the **** do these Senators do in Washington? Who cares how these jackasses vote when the country is falling under tyranny by the left? I literally could not care less about any of this *****
What ****ing matters right now is Covid lockdowns, the vaccine mandate, and the border. Literally nothing else matters. Why? Because WE WON'T HAVE A DAMN COUNTRU WORTH SAVING IF WE DON'T STOP THESE THINGS NOW!
Cruz is part of the damn problem. He's thrown his own constituents under the bus and decided to be a swamp rat for no damn reason. He should be screaming at the top of his lungs daily against the mandate and for border control, but he doesn't. Why?
Doubt
Marcus Brutus said:
Give me a break. Ted is a smart guy. He said exactly what he meant to say when he said it was a terror attack.
This is the most obvious answer.
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
What I see is him nervously tap-dancing because he knows he stepped in it.Muy said:
Cruz came across incredibly unlikeable and not trustable tonight. The most smarmy he's ever sounded.
People here are nuts. We're trying to take back the Senate and people want to shoot Ted Cruz of all Senators? Insane.
Yes he messed up but everyone does. Trump has. DeSantis has. If this is the standard then there are zero people who can be trusted and elected.
Yes he messed up but everyone does. Trump has. DeSantis has. If this is the standard then there are zero people who can be trusted and elected.
aginresearch said:
People here are nuts. We're trying to take back the Senate and people want to shoot Ted Cruz of all Senators? Insane.
Yes he messed up but everyone does. Trump has. DeSantis has. If this is the standard then there are zero people who can be trusted and elected.
Do you want to know why the right never wins anything? Why all of our "rising stars" turn out to be wet farts? Why we always wind up disappointed after "taking back muh senate?"
It's because no one is gatekeeping from the right. These people are not a modern Cincinnatus coming to save the Republic out of love for her. These are careerists who network and connive to reach the halls of power. If they aren't ruthlessly held in check, nothing will ever change. The fallout for Cruz from this should be cataclysmic. Why? Because if you give them a pass they'll feign gratitude and humility and then stab you in the back again. And why not? You forgave them once, you'll do it again. What other option do you have?
Enough.
The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
Cruz is a reliable conservative. I knows what he said was wrong and is admitting to it.
We don't need to establish a "Church of MAGA" and excommunicate him. That's what the left does to their "heretics". We're not the left.
We don't need to establish a "Church of MAGA" and excommunicate him. That's what the left does to their "heretics". We're not the left.
No and I had to google Jon Stewart to see who he was.hedge said:
Remember when Jon Stewart made Tucker look like an idiot on his own show
Wow look at all you latecomers. Cruz has been slimey since the beginning. Sure he's pretty damn conservative, and was a relative outsider when he muscled out the LtGov in the senate race, but he's spent a lifetime grooming himself to be a career politico. He's polished to a fault. He's apologizing now cuz he know he has to follow where the wind is blowing. Which is a very very swampy thing to do.
hammerhead said:No and I had to google Jon Stewart to see who he was.hedge said:
Remember when Jon Stewart made Tucker look like an idiot on his own show
hedge gets his info from John Stewart. Says everything.
.RebelE Infantry said:Pookers said:
This thread is quite demoralizing. We have a politician slipping up and telling us what he actually thinks and we are here making excuses for him and letting them off the hook.
This. I don't believe for one nanosecond that he said "violent terrorist attack" by mistake. How do you even mistakenly do that?
Cruz talks a slick game and is great at dunking on apparatchiks in committee hearings, but sadly seems to be just like all the rest.
Yep. He is intelligent and an articulate speaker. Excellent debater. His ability to choose words wisely, especially in a hearing like this, is what he's best at. I hate to say it but I think there's zero chance he "accidentally" said what he did. Maybe he was coerced but it wasn't a slip. Those suggesting the criticism here isn't warranted are naive and in the wrong, IMHO.
And going on Tucker was a bad move. His cringeworthy responses didn't help his credibility
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A bad mea culpa is better than none. Not responding and letting people assume the worst would hurt his credibility even more.painkiller06 said:
And going on Tucker was a bad move. His cringeworthy responses didn't help his credibility
JSKolache said:
He's apologizing now cuz he know he has to follow where the wind is blowing. Which is a very very swampy thing to do.
Yeah! If he was a real man of the people like DJT, he'd double down on his original comments, start referring to TC as"Terrible Tucker", and talk trash about Tucker's ratings. Only a swamp creature would acknowledge a mistake!
AggieUSMC said:
Cruz is a reliable conservative. I knows what he said was wrong and is admitting to it.
We don't need to establish a "Church of MAGA" and excommunicate him. That's what the left does to their "heretics". We're not the left.
Exactly. Cruz votes for policy that I agree with and confirms judges that I approve of. He does his job as my senator and that's all I expect from him.
Cruz exposed himself bad with his comments. That wasn't an accident even if he doesn't believe that.
hedge said:
Remember when Jon Stewart made Tucker look like an idiot on his own show
LOL, Stewart looked like a jerk, and discourse has been WORSE in this country since he slammed Crossfire, one of the only shows that featured a debate from both parties. Now Tucker has his own show and nobody to push back. Good job, Jon
I disagree with Tucker. The BLM/antifa idiots who went after cops were absolutely terrorists. That was violence in pursuit of political aims. They were not merely assaulting cops while trying to evade arrest. And if Cruz called those guys terrorists, which he would be in the right to do, then it would be consistent to call the few people who broke windows and beat the crap out of cops terrorists as well.
What Cruz should have done at the time is made it clear that he was NOT including the people who were walking around and taking a self guided tour at the behest of the police who escorted them into the building.
What Cruz should have done at the time is made it clear that he was NOT including the people who were walking around and taking a self guided tour at the behest of the police who escorted them into the building.
What? This church has been in session since Trump came down the escalator. The past 5 years people who are reliable conservatives that are pro-life, pro strong borders, pro free market, school choice, etc., etc., have been deemed heretics if they dared to disagree with Trump. They could have even voted for him, but that wasn't good enough. There is a church of MAGA and Cruz is the latest heretic.AggieUSMC said:
Cruz is a reliable conservative. I knows what he said was wrong and is admitting to it.
We don't need to establish a "Church of MAGA" and excommunicate him. That's what the left does to their "heretics". We're not the left.
Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
Definitely let's get rid of Cruz 'cause his words (that he immediately took back) hurt y'all's feelz. I take pride knowing it's just the "libtards" who are guided by emotion rather than reason. /eye roll
this logic is wrong. you are the problem.
Cruz is very smart, he did not say "domestic terrorists" by mistake. I don't believe anyone put him up to it either. He is simply out of touch with the working middle class, and he has drank way too much of his own kool-aid and has become something of a complacent swamp creature, unfortunately.
As someone who has followed him for years, I think my biggest criticism of his leadership style is that he regards conservatism as more of a journey (for himself) to live by, rather than a destination (for the country) to arrive at. Which is why over the last year I've grown disappointed in him -- the left has pushed the country off the cliff and yet all he does is tweet about how hypocritical/reckless it all has been. Nevermind the fact that people have died in mass as a result of these lockdowns and lost their jobs over the mandates (or worse sold out and gotten the shot after being coerced). These problems were not real to him or anyone in Washington. They are too coddled, rich, and out of touch to see it all. Which is infuriating.
For me, it's about results. For example, don't tell me you're against mandates, but then show your papers to travel to Cancun, or wherever. That's pathetic and evil, to be quite honest. Do better.
In the case of January 6th, it was not a terrorist attack - it was federal agencies provoking and framing American citizens as insurectionists. And For Cruz to go along with this label, is to categorically regard all angered citizens as a threat and a problem to the government -- rather than constituents who they work for.
If there was ever such a thing as a "danger to democracy", then it would be a government that doesn't answer to the people who elected them. Which is exactly what this was - politicians disregarding calls for accountability and legislation.
I will not vote for Mr. Cruz in the future. He needs to find a different path to make an impact in this country - he is brilliant, but he is simply becoming a name in a list of many do-nothing politicians. It means absolutely nothing.
Maybe he can step away from a political seat for a couple of years and find his way, he needs to get away from the swamp.
As someone who has followed him for years, I think my biggest criticism of his leadership style is that he regards conservatism as more of a journey (for himself) to live by, rather than a destination (for the country) to arrive at. Which is why over the last year I've grown disappointed in him -- the left has pushed the country off the cliff and yet all he does is tweet about how hypocritical/reckless it all has been. Nevermind the fact that people have died in mass as a result of these lockdowns and lost their jobs over the mandates (or worse sold out and gotten the shot after being coerced). These problems were not real to him or anyone in Washington. They are too coddled, rich, and out of touch to see it all. Which is infuriating.
For me, it's about results. For example, don't tell me you're against mandates, but then show your papers to travel to Cancun, or wherever. That's pathetic and evil, to be quite honest. Do better.
In the case of January 6th, it was not a terrorist attack - it was federal agencies provoking and framing American citizens as insurectionists. And For Cruz to go along with this label, is to categorically regard all angered citizens as a threat and a problem to the government -- rather than constituents who they work for.
If there was ever such a thing as a "danger to democracy", then it would be a government that doesn't answer to the people who elected them. Which is exactly what this was - politicians disregarding calls for accountability and legislation.
I will not vote for Mr. Cruz in the future. He needs to find a different path to make an impact in this country - he is brilliant, but he is simply becoming a name in a list of many do-nothing politicians. It means absolutely nothing.
Maybe he can step away from a political seat for a couple of years and find his way, he needs to get away from the swamp.
Only when his mom pays the cable bill for his basement room.Muy said:hammerhead said:No and I had to google Jon Stewart to see who he was.hedge said:
Remember when Jon Stewart made Tucker look like an idiot on his own show
hedge gets his info from John Stewart. Says everything.
Ted ****ed up.AGHouston11 said:
Great job Ted of killing I'm your presidential run unless you were planning on choosing Liz Cheney as you VP for your ticket. Maybe that was the plan.
He is nowhere in the same class as Liz Cheney.
What alternative did he have? Let it die down?painkiller06 said:.RebelE Infantry said:Pookers said:
This thread is quite demoralizing. We have a politician slipping up and telling us what he actually thinks and we are here making excuses for him and letting them off the hook.
This. I don't believe for one nanosecond that he said "violent terrorist attack" by mistake. How do you even mistakenly do that?
Cruz talks a slick game and is great at dunking on apparatchiks in committee hearings, but sadly seems to be just like all the rest.
Yep. He is intelligent and an articulate speaker. Excellent debater. His ability to choose words wisely, especially in a hearing like this, is what he's best at. I hate to say it but I think there's zero chance he "accidentally" said what he did. Maybe he was coerced but it wasn't a slip. Those suggesting the criticism here isn't warranted are naive and in the wrong, IMHO.
And going on Tucker was a bad move. His cringeworthy responses didn't help his credibility
He realized he completely ****ed up.
He F-ed up in thinking conservatives were smarter than they apparently really are.
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