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I mean if it's fully FDA approved (NOT EUA) go for it. But, you can't find that available. So, don't do it OP.

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Fully approved stuff gets pulled all the time,

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/drug-recalls

On the first 3 pages alone you can find big pharma stuff

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Okay, then you know HIPPA certification needs to be continually updated and on file with HR. Was your certification valid or expired? You also know because you are certified you would have been "knowingly" violating federal laws, which ups the fines. Did HR come to you, or did you volunteer your services?

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Legal said all was above board. But I appreciate your concern.

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So there was enough question that legal was involved? Did legal say it was above board before or after?

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Catag94 said:

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I mean if it's fully FDA approved (NOT EUA) go for it. But, you can't find that available. So, don't do it OP.

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Fully approved stuff gets pulled all the time,

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/drug-recalls

On the first 3 pages alone you can find big pharma stuff

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My point is that a fully FDA approved SARS Cov-2 "vaccine" does not exist in this country.

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Salute The Marines said:

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Okay, then you know HIPPA certification needs to be continually updated and on file with HR. Was your certification valid or expired? You also know because you are certified you would have been "knowingly" violating federal laws, which ups the fines. Did HR come to you, or did you volunteer your services?

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Legal said all was above board. But I appreciate your concern.

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So there was enough question that legal was involved? Did legal say it was above board before or after?

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What do you think is the HIPAA violation?

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Salute The Marines said:

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A mass email was sent out warning against fakes shortly after. Some people were terminated and those employees let others know they had been let go for faking cards.

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I've mostly stayed on the sidelines of your ongoing drama on here, but this is just despicable.

Enjoy your totalitarian win. Karma will not be kind to you.

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Yeah, and be careful crossing the street. Not everyone in HR is likely to maintain your cover.

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Salute The Marines said:

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File5 said:

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Please remind me which law these vaccine requirements are enabled under

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The vaccines does not (my opinion, but 6th circuit disagrees). But fraudulent recreating federal forms and documents is.

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Vaccine cards are issued by local health officials, not Feds

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I think the issue of it being criminal is when they fake the CDC logo on it.

I lost my vax card, so I do not know if mine had a CDC logo on it

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I considered the fake route, even had my mother in law call in to the local health department to get a replacement. Hers did have the CDC logo on it but one of the dates was stamped upsidedown and the writing of the lot numbers was near illegible. She got it at one of the mass mall locations but they were still tracking things in the computer my sis-in-law said. It really does look fake but she did get the first two shots because of age and comorbidities.

She left three different messages over a month. When someone finally contacted her back, they said they would send a release form so she could get a copy. Never got a release form. At that point, I was convinced that boosters would be added to the term fully vaccinated and notified my bosses that if it came to it, I'll work remote and test if I need to go in to the office.

I'm fortunate to be able to work remotely almost 100%. Now when people like my sister and her husband get covid a second time after already being vaxxed, they can spread it like good little Typhoid Marys and other people at work can still get it. But the unclean will be persecuted.

Also, per the OSHA mandate, you are allowed to say you lost your vaccine card:

If you are unable to produce one of the acceptable forms of proof of vaccination, despite attempts to
do so, you can provide a signed and dated statement attesting to your vaccination status (fully
vaccinated or partially vaccinated); attesting that you have lost and are otherwise unable to produce
one of the other forms of acceptable proof; and including the following language:

"I declare (or certify, verify, or state) that this statement about my vaccination status is true
and accurate to my best information and belief. I understand that knowingly providing false
information regarding my vaccination status on this form may subject me to disciplinary action
up to and including termination of employment, or termination of contractor status in the case
of a contractor."

An employee who attests to their vaccination status in this way should, to the best of their recollection,
include the type of vaccine administered, the date(s) of administration, and the name of the healthcare
professional(s) or clinic site(s) administering the vaccine and describe their attempts to obtain proof of
vaccination.

Pretty tired of all this mandate bull***** I got sick with this bull**** when it first came over, got double Pfizer to travel for work and have gotten it again. The mandates are ***** I took a gamble based on my physicians advice. Not even sure I should have. Maybe the impact is less, but it sure as **** doesn't stop the virus so whatever.

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Pretty tired of all this mandate bull***** I got sick with this bull**** when it first came over, got double Pfizer to travel for work and have gotten it again. The mandates are ***** I took a gamble based on my physicians advice. Not even sure I should have. Maybe the impact is less, but it sure as **** doesn't stop the virus so whatever.

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In a couple of weeks you will no longer be considered vaxxed.

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Boo Weekley said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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Wow. This take is disgusting, even coming from you. Luckily, I don't believe you for a second. Just like I don't believe you actually signed your 6 and 9 year olds up to be guinea pigs for vaccine testing. I actually don't even believe you have kids. There is something wrong with you.

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I believe in the rule of law.

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Sixth Circuit panel denies Biden Admin request to pause injunction against contractor vax mandate | Just The News https://t.co/392diAsScR

— John Solomon (@jsolomonReports) January 6, 2022

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Boo Weekley said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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File5 said:

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Please remind me which law these vaccine requirements are enabled under

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The vaccines does not (my opinion, but 6th circuit disagrees). But fraudulent recreating federal forms and documents is.

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Vaccine cards are issued by local health officials, not Feds

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I think the issue of it being criminal is when they fake the CDC logo on it.

I lost my vax card, so I do not know if mine had a CDC logo on it

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It had the CDC logo on it. Those faking them have been charged by the US Attorneys Office and arraigned.

AGAIN, suggesting a poster fraudulent create a CDC vaccination card is a federal crime and puts Texags in a dangerous position. I am not trolling at all, but advocating of criminal activity on this board should never allowed.

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Edibles are a felony (enforced in Texas but not all states). Just one edible. People openly talk about taking edibles on here, and harder drugs, routinely. They even suggest it.

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That is why every state should allow it for medicinal purposes

Get the card.
Buy the kind bud, gummies, peanut butter cups, or Cheeto like chips.

Have a fun night binging hulu or Netflix

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Agreed. Until then I have to have my buddy mule it from Smoklahoma for me.

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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Wow. This take is disgusting, even coming from you. Luckily, I don't believe you for a second. Just like I don't believe you actually signed your 6 and 9 year olds up to be guinea pigs for vaccine testing. I actually don't even believe you have kids. There is something wrong with you.

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I believe in the rule of law.

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Sixth Circuit panel denies Biden Admin request to pause injunction against contractor vax mandate | Just The News https://t.co/392diAsScR

— John Solomon (@jsolomonReports) January 6, 2022

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Forging federal forms illegal regardless of the OSHA mandate.

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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Mike Fiers is your favorite baseball player, isn't he?

Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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With multiple siblings, cousins, friends, and, after next week, a nephew in the military, they are supposed to be honest.

Leave the military
File an exemption

But don't lie about having the vax when you don't

Tanya the government's tyrannical and nonsensical mandate puts its people in a precarious situation. Some people need their paycheck and can't afford to "make a real stand". They can succumb and be force-fed big pharma's experiment and just hope there aren't unforeseen long term effects since there's been zero long term studies or worse - immediate heart issues, in which case they might still get the sniffles for a few days and kill grandma, or they can fake it and hope they don't get the sniffles for a few days and kill grandma.

Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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Wrong, people should and will choose to fight it many ways, and one of those ways includes fake cards and lying. Get over it, we dont care about your tyrannical laws.

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riverrataggie said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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With multiple siblings, cousins, friends, and, after next week, a nephew in the military, they are supposed to be honest.

Leave the military
File an exemption

But don't lie about having the vax when you don't

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I disagree, lie and fake cards if you want, do what ever you can to subvert the system or fight it in the open, all are valid.

Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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With multiple siblings, cousins, friends, and, after next week, a nephew in the military, they are supposed to be honest.

Leave the military
File an exemption

But don't lie about having the vax when you don't

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Glad you're willing to cover the bills for those who refuse. This is a sad and pathetic take as to how to resist tyranny. I don't care if you think the vaccines are the best thing in the world. You have no right to coerce my employer into firing me for believing differently.

Kvetch said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Boo Weekley said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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Wow. This take is disgusting, even coming from you. Luckily, I don't believe you for a second. Just like I don't believe you actually signed your 6 and 9 year olds up to be guinea pigs for vaccine testing. I actually don't even believe you have kids. There is something wrong with you.

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I believe in the rule of law.

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You're full of ***** Vax mandates aren't law. Decrees from the unaccountable administrative state deserve resistance. If you legitimately think it's a good thing that people are charged with felonies for not being coerced into a vaccine they do not want to get, you're no better than a Gestapo officer "following orders."

Your purported actions disgust me.

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That's a very good point. It's not a damn law!

And breaking this "law" hurts no one. There is no effect. Especially if you are recovered from covid.

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Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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With multiple siblings, cousins, friends, and, after next week, a nephew in the military, they are supposed to be honest.

Leave the military
File an exemption

But don't lie about having the vax when you don't

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Glad you're willing to cover the bills for those who refuse. This is a sad and pathetic take as to how to resist tyranny. I don't care if you think the vaccines are the best thing in the world. You have no right to coerce my employer into firing me for believing differently.

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I don't think they should force you

But faking the logo of a federal agency is a federal crime.

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So last month my umm, 'friend's' company announced that all employees must be vaxxed by Feb. 4 or they'd 'face discipline up to & including termination'.

My errr 'friend' is a conservative badass so naturally he's been doing the 'shall not comply' thing for the past month, staying off the radar with his opinion on the matter and hoping that it gets struck down in the courts before the deadline or that the company will blink first and back down.

Doesn't look like either of those things are going to happen, so now my umm 'friend' is thinking of bending the knee for the almighty paycheck.

Since my friend hasn't paid hardly any attention to all the vaccine noise, he's clueless on which one he should get. Any recommendations? J&J? Moderna? Others?

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I'm at the same unnamed company. Have been seeking employment elsewhere since the announcement (though I can't say this was the sole reason for that) but have so far been unsuccessful. If it comes down to it, J&J for me.

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riverrataggie said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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With multiple siblings, cousins, friends, and, after next week, a nephew in the military, they are supposed to be honest.

Leave the military
File an exemption

But don't lie about having the vax when you don't

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Glad you're willing to cover the bills for those who refuse. This is a sad and pathetic take as to how to resist tyranny. I don't care if you think the vaccines are the best thing in the world. You have no right to coerce my employer into firing me for believing differently.

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I don't think they should force you

But faking the logo of a federal agency is a federal crime.

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Oh No! What ever will we do! Who cares, fight and subvert

That's the second half I was concerned about. You could easily say you lost it and from what I saw, not easy to get a copy. But when boosters are a requirement, you are still stuck.

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riverrataggie said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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I thought you were completely against mandates?

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Being against mandates doesn't mean one should believe it is okay to fake having them.


Why not take a real stand instead of letting companies/military think what they are doing is okay by showing you are vaxxed?

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But then why white knight and go out of your way? I'm against people breaking laws but you don't see me tracking people down and bringing them to local law enforcement.

I find it extremely insincere that they are so against something yet proudly enforce it so much.

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With multiple siblings, cousins, friends, and, after next week, a nephew in the military, they are supposed to be honest.

Leave the military
File an exemption

But don't lie about having the vax when you don't

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Glad you're willing to cover the bills for those who refuse. This is a sad and pathetic take as to how to resist tyranny. I don't care if you think the vaccines are the best thing in the world. You have no right to coerce my employer into firing me for believing differently.

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I don't think they should force you

But faking the logo of a federal agency is a federal crime.

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It's only a federal crime if you forge a federal seal. Oeave it off and see if they catch you. Otherwise, it's completely legal. Your sense of moral superiority regarding compliance with tyranny is idiotic.

At least we know who not to trust when push comes to shove.

Salute The Marines said:

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Fake cards aren't hard to bust, and thankfully we have seen some felony prosecutions for doing this. I was able to assist our HR departing in spotting some.

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You did this all one handed didn't you?

My friend called me today his healthy uncle passed away two days after getting the booster. No way I would touch this death juice.