So they're going to put the burden on a mom and pop sending, their child to college, that they've worked hard for and saved, so they can be the first in their family to graduate college? Sharp can ****off unless he guarantees no tuition increase during this statement to Russia. Btw, President Rainman just committed to admitting 100K Ukrainians which means over 1 million because everyone invading the border will claim they're Ukrainian and will be allowed in. Rick Perry still deserves a nut punch for in state tuition for illegals.WhoopRAB said:
https://www.click2houston.com/news/texas/2022/03/29/texas-am-to-grant-free-tuition-room-and-board-to-its-ukrainian-students/
Ukrainian students across the Texas A&M University System's 11 campuses and research centers will receive free tuition starting next semester, Chancellor John Sharp said Tuesday.
The university system will cover all tuition and fees, as well as certain living expenses, for the students. At least 14 students from Ukraine have been identified as eligible for the financial support so far, Associate Vice Chancellor Tim Eaton said. The number is likely to increase as more students are identified, he said.
The move is part of the university's response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Earlier this month, Texas A&M announced it would be cutting research ties with Russian entitiesand might do the same with study abroad and faculty exchange programs in Russia.
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ProgN said:This pisses me off. These countries only want to join NATO because they're scared and want the protection now. For years their citizens on social social media have excoriated the US for not having free healthcare while they can't protect themselves. Admitting them to NATO gives them the protection of our blood and treasure while they still spend their money on social security nets for their citizens, that's having your cake and eating it too. I say **** them unless they build a formidable military and cut their social spending.Captain Positivity said:This suggests to me that Finland and Sweden may be joining NATO sometime within the next few weeks, the Alliance has already said on Multiple Occasions that both Countries would be able to Join NATO within 24 hours of a Formal Request.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 30, 2022
ETA: They can offer so many benefits to their citizens because if our military. Let them live in a real world and Bernie Bros can stop using them as examples to aspire to and shove their socialist policies up their asses without lube.
on the other hand, the NATO laws that Trump tried to enforce mandate spending 2% of each countries GDP on defense.
which is why all the Euros were freeloading off the USA
now I bet they will all start to spend the minimums. especially if DeSantis is the President in 2024
Exactly right! Our kids go and die because of a ****ing piece of paper while they keep life as usual because they're talking **** while standing behind our military? NO **** THEM, let them drape their youth's coffins with their flags while we give them weapons and intelligence!nortex97 said:
100 percent truth. A lot of Europe, knowing Trump might be back in 2025, is jumping on the 'free protection from Russia courtesy of the US' bandwagon that is NATO right now.
This **** pissed me off. Why should our kids die for arrogant asses while theirs are studying gender studies? We've sacrificed enough IMO.
I don't want a "minimum" for them. They should be able to protect themselves and if needed, we can help out, but that's not how it is.
ProgN said:Exactly right! Our kids go and die because of a ****ing piece of paper while they keep life as usual because they're talking **** while standing behind our military? NO **** THEM, let them drape their youth's coffins with their flags while we give them weapons and intelligence!nortex97 said:
100 percent truth. A lot of Europe, knowing Trump might be back in 2025, is jumping on the 'free protection from Russia courtesy of the US' bandwagon that is NATO right now.
This **** pissed me off. Why should our kids die for arrogant asses while theirs are studying gender studies? We've sacrificed enough IMO.
Finland and Sweden would instantly be NATO's most capable European EU militaries next to France and Poland. Their addition would actually reduce the U.S. military burden with respect to NATO. Their militaries are small (to be expected since they're also small countries) but very well equipped and very well trained.
One thing to keep in mind is that European boys have gone home in boxes in support of America far more recently than Americans have gone home in boxes for Europeans. We invoked NATO article 5 after 9/11 and took Europe along for the ride.
LMCane said:ProgN said:This pisses me off. These countries only want to join NATO because they're scared and want the protection now. For years their citizens on social social media have excoriated the US for not having free healthcare while they can't protect themselves. Admitting them to NATO gives them the protection of our blood and treasure while they still spend their money on social security nets for their citizens, that's having your cake and eating it too. I say **** them unless they build a formidable military and cut their social spending.Captain Positivity said:This suggests to me that Finland and Sweden may be joining NATO sometime within the next few weeks, the Alliance has already said on Multiple Occasions that both Countries would be able to Join NATO within 24 hours of a Formal Request.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 30, 2022
ETA: They can offer so many benefits to their citizens because if our military. Let them live in a real world and Bernie Bros can stop using them as examples to aspire to and shove their socialist policies up their asses without lube.
on the other hand, the NATO laws that Trump tried to enforce mandate spending 2% of each countries GDP on defense.
which is why all the Euros were freeloading off the USA
now I bet they will all start to spend the minimums. especially if DeSantis is the President in 2024
The target of spending 2% GDP on defense is just that: a target. It isn't mandated anywhere in the North Atlantic Treaty. It is just a mutually-agreed guideline among NATO members. It is a good idea and it was wrong that virtually all European states were below this threshold, but Trump did not "enforce the NATO laws" as you put it.
ProgN said:Exactly right! Our kids go and die because of a ****ing piece of paper while they keep life as usual because they're talking **** while standing behind our military? NO **** THEM, let them drape their youth's coffins with their flags while we give them weapons and intelligence!nortex97 said:
100 percent truth. A lot of Europe, knowing Trump might be back in 2025, is jumping on the 'free protection from Russia courtesy of the US' bandwagon that is NATO right now.
This **** pissed me off. Why should our kids die for arrogant asses while theirs are studying gender studies? We've sacrificed enough IMO.
That piece of paper is why our kids ~ haven't ~ gone over to Europe to die in the past 75 years. Mutual defense treaties make us safer because they make wars less likely. A lot less likely. The sustained peace among NATO members is the longest sustained peace in the history of European nation states.
You invoke the safety of our children, but your attitude reminds most of a deadbeat dad. One who doesn't want to pay the bills. One who would rather rid himself of banal and tiresome responsibilities - like maintaining the diplomatic infrastructure he inherited from past generations.
Is Germany still a joke? Checks…
Yep. German is still a joke.
Germany is "ready" to act as "security guarantor" for Ukraine but is not ready to "speculate" whether this guarantee has a military component. Seriously guys?
— Eerik N Kross (@EerikNKross) March 30, 2022
What other "components" does a security guarantee have. https://t.co/dvdVIuUOXX
Yep. German is still a joke.
Germany doesn't exactly have much of an army. I think they already donated all their weapons.
Captain Positivity said:This suggests to me that Finland and Sweden may be joining NATO sometime within the next few weeks, the Alliance has already said on Multiple Occasions that both Countries would be able to Join NATO within 24 hours of a Formal Request.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 30, 2022
Russia, go **** yourself
Old cartoon but replace Lebanon with Russia and it still works.
Good lawd, you don't even realize you further reinforced my point with your drivel. The fact is that most NATO members haven't lived up to their required obligation and it puts our soldiers in the crosshairs. Why should our sons and daughters die to protect countries that haven't fulfilled their commitments? WE are the reason that there's been peace because of a document. The majority of NATO members have abused our protection for their own benefit. You remove us and our capabilities from the equation then Europe and Asia is at war, but that should never be taken for granted. They need to build up their military for their own security and never be willing to sacrifice our youth when they're not willing to do so. We can still be the badass backstop provided their own is on the front lines.TriAg2010 said:ProgN said:Exactly right! Our kids go and die because of a ****ing piece of paper while they keep life as usual because they're talking **** while standing behind our military? NO **** THEM, let them drape their youth's coffins with their flags while we give them weapons and intelligence!nortex97 said:
100 percent truth. A lot of Europe, knowing Trump might be back in 2025, is jumping on the 'free protection from Russia courtesy of the US' bandwagon that is NATO right now.
This **** pissed me off. Why should our kids die for arrogant asses while theirs are studying gender studies? We've sacrificed enough IMO.
That piece of paper is why our kids ~ haven't ~ gone over to Europe to die in the past 75 years. Mutual defense treaties make us safer because they make wars less likely. A lot less likely. The sustained peace among NATO members is the longest sustained peace in the history of European nation states.
You invoke the safety of our children, but your attitude reminds most of a deadbeat dad. One who doesn't want to pay the bills. One who would rather rid himself of banal and tiresome responsibilities - like maintaining the diplomatic infrastructure he inherited from past generations.
Are you willing to welcome flag draped coffins of our soldiers returning from a defending the land of people that aren't prepared to defend themselves? If so, then you're no better than the pos politicians (both parties) that send them to their death.
They (NATO countries) fought with us in the sandbox after 9/11 when we declared Article 5. Seems like they were willing to back us on something that had nothing to do with them and would get their kids shipped back in a box just the same. Pretty solid display of good faith if you ask me.
" Western allies of the United States have borne significant costs in the post-9/11 wars, in terms of both dollars and lives. This report's key findings indicate that, besides the United States, the top five countries to send troops to the war in Afghanistan were the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, and Canada. The United Kingdom in particular supplied roughly two to three times the troops of the other top contributing allies when considered relative to its population. British and Canadian troops put their lives at risk at twice the rate of American troops, when seen as a percentage of each country's peak deployment. The top contributing allies lost over a thousand lives in the U.S.-led conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
When measured as a percentage of their annual baseline military expenditures, the United Kingdom and Canada spent roughly half as much on Afghanistan as the United States. And when measured in terms relative to their respective Gross Domestic Products (GDPs), the U.S. provided less foreign aid than did the U.K., and about the same amount as Germany and Canada.
Western allies' primary interest in making their significant contributions was not their own security, but cementing their relationships with the U.S."
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/node/741
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2021/Davidson_AlliesCostsofWar_Final.pdf
" Western allies of the United States have borne significant costs in the post-9/11 wars, in terms of both dollars and lives. This report's key findings indicate that, besides the United States, the top five countries to send troops to the war in Afghanistan were the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, and Canada. The United Kingdom in particular supplied roughly two to three times the troops of the other top contributing allies when considered relative to its population. British and Canadian troops put their lives at risk at twice the rate of American troops, when seen as a percentage of each country's peak deployment. The top contributing allies lost over a thousand lives in the U.S.-led conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
When measured as a percentage of their annual baseline military expenditures, the United Kingdom and Canada spent roughly half as much on Afghanistan as the United States. And when measured in terms relative to their respective Gross Domestic Products (GDPs), the U.S. provided less foreign aid than did the U.K., and about the same amount as Germany and Canada.
Western allies' primary interest in making their significant contributions was not their own security, but cementing their relationships with the U.S."
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/node/741
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2021/Davidson_AlliesCostsofWar_Final.pdf
As I previously stated, MOST haven't lived up to their commitment per the terms of the agreement. I respect your insight on this thread but you need to back off on disregarding my argument.
ProgN said:
I respect your insight on this thread but you need to back off on defending my argument.
I needed a laugh today. Thanks.
TriAg2010 said:ProgN said:Exactly right! Our kids go and die because of a ****ing piece of paper while they keep life as usual because they're talking **** while standing behind our military? NO **** THEM, let them drape their youth's coffins with their flags while we give them weapons and intelligence!nortex97 said:
100 percent truth. A lot of Europe, knowing Trump might be back in 2025, is jumping on the 'free protection from Russia courtesy of the US' bandwagon that is NATO right now.
This **** pissed me off. Why should our kids die for arrogant asses while theirs are studying gender studies? We've sacrificed enough IMO.
That piece of paper is why our kids ~ haven't ~ gone over to Europe to die in the past 75 years. Mutual defense treaties make us safer because they make wars less likely. A lot less likely. The sustained peace among NATO members is the longest sustained peace in the history of European nation states.
You invoke the safety of our children, but your attitude reminds most of a deadbeat dad. One who doesn't want to pay the bills. One who would rather rid himself of banal and tiresome responsibilities - like maintaining the diplomatic infrastructure he inherited from past generations.
This same thought process lead to World War I and it nearly lead to World War III.
That's the problem with alliances. If you expect for them to be unidirectional then you won't have any and those countries will eventually align themselves elsewhere both militarily and economically.
Once you're completely isolated it becomes much easier to eventually be defeated by those who would benefit from your downfall. Even the USA isn't immune. Especially now that the US is predominantly a consumer and not a production oriented nation.
Once you're completely isolated it becomes much easier to eventually be defeated by those who would benefit from your downfall. Even the USA isn't immune. Especially now that the US is predominantly a consumer and not a production oriented nation.
Germany applying for the Mall Security position!Rossticus said:
Is Germany still a joke? Checks…Germany is "ready" to act as "security guarantor" for Ukraine but is not ready to "speculate" whether this guarantee has a military component. Seriously guys?
— Eerik N Kross (@EerikNKross) March 30, 2022
What other "components" does a security guarantee have. https://t.co/dvdVIuUOXX
Yep. German is still a joke.
Germany is hopelessly reliant on Russian energy - Germany will succumb. There is no short term fix - no we can't ship them enough gas compared to a pipeline.
Realities of civilians trying to survive in #Mariupol while streets of the city and apartment blocks are shelled by Russian invaders. Collecting and melting snow for water, making food on open fire outside and hiding from Russian rockets.
— Walter Lekh🇺🇦 (@walterlekh) March 31, 2022
pic.twitter.com/yuqKNn5DUA
Sooooo… Orban seems to be having some issues.
For non-tweeters: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1509073964294881282.html
2/ When MFA Péter Szijjártó received the Order of Friendship from Sergey Lavrov - awarded by Putin himself - he already knew well that his ministry has been completely hacked by Russia.
— Szabolcs Panyi (@panyiszabolcs) March 30, 2022
He didn’t confront the Russians but praised Moscow and their great cooperation with Hungary. pic.twitter.com/DEozn3m6PF
For non-tweeters: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1509073964294881282.html
#Russian State Duma held first meeting of the investigation into activities of biolaboratories in #Ukraine
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 31, 2022
They decided to invite #US officials to give explanations. Among those invited were Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the son of the US President Hunter #Biden. pic.twitter.com/6q5k4JC2g6
Nuland and Biden, come on down.
Russian Duma is such a joke.
I'm just glad we finally found some common ground with Russia.Rossticus said:
Russian Duma is such a joke.
The US and the UK have officially brushed off providing Ukraine with actual security guarantees, that would have involved defending Ukraine in case of a renewed Russian attack.
— Oleksiy Sorokin (@mrsorokaa) March 31, 2022
Ukraine continues to insist that “security guarantees” are a legit offer.
This is going nowhere.
Initial reports linked Anonymous to the hack and @AnonOpsSE shared details about it; however, 30 Mar @YourAnonTV said no evidence found "implicating the Anonymous collective or Anonymous-linked groups to the recent Russian Civil Aviation Authority (Rosaviatsiya) hack."
— Euromaidan Press (@EuromaidanPress) March 31, 2022
My very hot sports opinion is that the USA should EXIT NATO........
We need to force Western Europe to spend more on their own defense and fund and staff NATO on their own. They need to collectively form their own battle groups, C&C, logistics, etc. Western Europe populations of NATO countries is far greater than Russia and they could/should be able to field a collective army and military defense against Russia without our support.
We can still be a strategic partner to NATO without being a member and having them rely on the USA to be the bully and the banker for the organization.
Obviously we would still be friendly and provide some semblance of a security partnership (would not call it a guarantee) and likely keep our troops and bases/facilities/ports presence in western Europe.
We need to force Western Europe to spend more on their own defense and fund and staff NATO on their own. They need to collectively form their own battle groups, C&C, logistics, etc. Western Europe populations of NATO countries is far greater than Russia and they could/should be able to field a collective army and military defense against Russia without our support.
We can still be a strategic partner to NATO without being a member and having them rely on the USA to be the bully and the banker for the organization.
Obviously we would still be friendly and provide some semblance of a security partnership (would not call it a guarantee) and likely keep our troops and bases/facilities/ports presence in western Europe.
As per my last email...
Russian aviation authority lost 65 TB of data and now operating on paper. They lost their last year and a half of emails and have no backups.
Russian aviation authority lost 65 TB of data and now operating on paper. They lost their last year and a half of emails and have no backups.
Why do KGB agents travel in threes?
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 5, 2018
One can read, one can write, and the third one keeps an eye on the two intellectuals.
I agree that European militaries have not lived up to their requirements.
That doesn't mean that their reaction to this will not change those calculations. They clearly will. The new Ukrainian dispora will also alter those calculations further. In regards to Sweden and Finland, you're looking at two countries with very different military expectations than in other European countries.
Sweden has a similar population to Denmark (both of which are smaller than either DFW or Houston metro areas) but triple the active armed forces and double the reserves. They have a sophisticated defense industry and an extensive military training structure.
Finland has compulsory military service and a crazy total nation defense plan that is practiced regularly. Finland especially would be a nightmare to invade. Those countries are after the UK, France and Poland two of the most prepared and well equipped militaries in Europe. Are they small in comparison to Russia? Yes but they're also less than 4% of the population of Russia.
So yes, should Germany and other parts of Europe live up to their obligations from which they have been shielded for 70 years? Yes. But this action is going to radically change calculations all over Europe. Poland is doubling their armed forces. Romania, Czech Republic, Baltic states and others will also be increasing size and spending. With appropriate help and training the US might be leading the alliance, but we will have significantly more allied resources along the Eastern flank.
That doesn't mean that their reaction to this will not change those calculations. They clearly will. The new Ukrainian dispora will also alter those calculations further. In regards to Sweden and Finland, you're looking at two countries with very different military expectations than in other European countries.
Sweden has a similar population to Denmark (both of which are smaller than either DFW or Houston metro areas) but triple the active armed forces and double the reserves. They have a sophisticated defense industry and an extensive military training structure.
Finland has compulsory military service and a crazy total nation defense plan that is practiced regularly. Finland especially would be a nightmare to invade. Those countries are after the UK, France and Poland two of the most prepared and well equipped militaries in Europe. Are they small in comparison to Russia? Yes but they're also less than 4% of the population of Russia.
So yes, should Germany and other parts of Europe live up to their obligations from which they have been shielded for 70 years? Yes. But this action is going to radically change calculations all over Europe. Poland is doubling their armed forces. Romania, Czech Republic, Baltic states and others will also be increasing size and spending. With appropriate help and training the US might be leading the alliance, but we will have significantly more allied resources along the Eastern flank.
Interesting general info about the war if you're not already aware/familiar. Thread.
For non-tweeters:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1509483576039026690.html
"8 years of genocide in Donbas 2014-2022":
— Dietmar Pichler 🇪🇺🇺🇦 (@DietmarPichler1) March 31, 2022
~13.000 people have been killed. ~10.000 of them UA soldiers or Russian/"pro Russian" fighters.
~3000 civilians died
Russian forces shelling Mariupol is not new:
31 civilians killed 2015https://t.co/uEjMFaILkT
For non-tweeters:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1509483576039026690.html
Поретвитьте плз, правда! pic.twitter.com/C7OguMR65b
— Смирнов (@sssmirnov) March 30, 2022
Have to give 'em credit. Russia can troll.
This clip was too long for Twitter, I had to cut part of it out. If you want to read what Tulsi was talking about, here is the link to Fox News: https://t.co/qHGVoCbgp2
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) March 31, 2022
This would be where we find out if we have the balls to follow through on countries who help Russia bypass sanctions. If we don't then China gets the green light to join the team.
⚡️India and Russia formalized plans to replace SWIFT to be able to bypass sanctions.⚡️
— spook (@spook_info) March 31, 2022
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