***** OFFICIAL Russia v. Ukraine *****

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PJYoung said:

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This was just said after the attack started? If so, well then.


Been out of pocket since early last night. It seems things went to 11 while I was asleep.

Praying for Ukraine and our personal friends over there. Pretty gut wrenching.
That was this morning after their emergency meetings.
Wow. Germany can't really be considered a serious member of NATO going forward if this is the case. Not that we didn't already know that. They are defunct country.

They are dependent on Russia for their energy.

You can't expect them to cut their own throat.
I'm highly aware. I do expect their peers to hold them partially accountable (lol) for this though since they have clearly decided to abstain from participating while everyone else carries the load.
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At least Lurch gets it -

"I hope President Putin will help us to stay on track with respect to what we need to do for the climate."
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BQ78 said:

They don't have the Z on it so my guess is they are Ukrainian.
Russian and Belorussian vehicles have Z, O, or V on them.
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Mind sharing the link to where we can find such things for those of us that don't mind bearing witness to history?
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Broncos said:

According to Flightradar, we have a US stratotanker circling over Romania near the border of Ukraine.
Actually looks like two more US refueling planes near the Ukraine western border. One in Poland, and a second in Romania.
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Ill take the over
Russian has strong tank game
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jabberwalkie09 said:



Italy and Austria are also against it too.
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TChaney said:



Ukraine woman to Russian soldier

"Why the f…k you came here on our land"
Heroines come in all forms.
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TRM said:

jabberwalkie09 said:



Italy and Austria are also against it too.

Oh they have made their positions since Monday abundantly clear. They need to understand that you don't dance around anymore. You go straight to the hard stuff and cripple the offender.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/t0cf9g/russian_airstrikes_dropping_very_close_to/
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jabberwalkie09 said:

TRM said:

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Italy and Austria are also against it too.

Oh they have made their positions since Monday abundantly clear. They need to understand that you don't dance around anymore. You go straight to the hard stuff and cripple the offender.
I agree, but they're not the only one to blame. It also makes me wonder about the future of the EU...
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TRM said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

TRM said:

jabberwalkie09 said:



Italy and Austria are also against it too.

Oh they have made their positions since Monday abundantly clear. They need to understand that you don't dance around anymore. You go straight to the hard stuff and cripple the offender.
I agree, but they're not the only one to blame. It also makes me wonder about the future of the EU...
I've never thought it would survive. Too many opposing cultures and visions. This might be the event to force that inevitable breakup.
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jabberwalkie09 said:


Here's the problem with this move. All oil is traded in US dollars. If Russia is removed from SWIFT, then all of Europe can no longer buy Russian oil/NG, which supplies 40% of their energy. This will have devastating implications for nearly all of Europe. And lesson number one why you do not trade with what you believe is an existential threat. This also goes beyond just energy.

Of course the US does this with China. So we're not exactly immune to the same behavior.

So I don't think this is actually going to happen, even if it should.
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jabberwalkie09 said:




Germany knows what Russia will do in response. Nord Stream 1 will go offline. Steam crackers (etc.) go offline in Germany....we don't want that to happen.
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Biden delays his remarks by an hour.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Biden delays his remarks by an hour.
Meds need more time to kick in.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Biden delays his remarks by an hour.
can't mess with nap time people.
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RangerRick9211 said:

It's Barnes, guys. He's been all over the B&I board these past few days. Ignore.


I'm sure his band will go play over there and get everyone to stop. Or he "knows" a guy..
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What does it take to be removed from the swift system
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Meh...not like it's urgent or anything. Take your time peepaw.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Biden delays his remarks by an hour.
LMAO

we all called this one!!
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Biden delays his remarks by an hour.
He's not awake yet.
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45-70Ag said:

What does it take to be removed from the swift system
Any governing body for a currency can ban you from using SWIFT to close international transactions in that currency. EU for Euro, UK for pound, US for dollar, etc.
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BlackGoldAg2011 said:

LMCane said:

TChaney said:



Ukraine woman to Russian soldier

"Why the f…k you came here on our land"

it would be more impressive if we were to see an actual clip of ukrainian men FIGHTING

rather than Ukrainian women yelling at triumphant Russians
maybe, just maybe, the Ukrainians are honoring the presidential request to not post Ukrainian troop activity? i obviously can't back that up, but just because you aren't seeing video of it doesn't mean its not happening.


your argument could be correct- other than the fact we are seeing numerous videos of Russian tanks speeding all over Ukraine,

Russian paratroopers just took an airport 15 minutes from Kiev,

hundreds of Russian units are moving across the ONE major bridge from Crimea,

helicopters are zooming all over the place with no fire coming at them,

Kiev looks abandoned with no SAM defense.

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This lady is the former spokesman for the Ukrainian president. Hope this is true.

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AlaskanAg99 said:

Biden delays his remarks by an hour.
He's not through eating his Lunchable while watching Tom and Jerry reruns. Plus he needs to change his Depends.
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He'll pick "Jeff K", ctr+alt+del, or some nonsense like that.
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Appeasement always works out in the end...
Quarterback can't throw the ball lying on his back.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

jabberwalkie09 said:


Here's the problem with this move. All oil is traded in US dollars. If Russia is removed from SWIFT, then all of Europe can no longer buy Russian oil/NG, which supplies 40% of their energy. This will have devastating implications for nearly all of Europe. And lesson number one why you do not trade with what you believe is an existential threat. This also goes beyond just energy.

Of course the US does this with China. So we're not exactly immune to the same behavior.

So I don't think this is actually going to happen, even if it should.
The United States became Europe's largest source of LNG in 2021,
Not sure about current shipments. President Biden's assault on O&G can't be good short and long term.

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