I personally would vote for no nuclear winter
I'm wasn't sure I could actually look at my optical nerve until this comment. Thanks for the eye roll.TommyBrady said:
I personally would vote for no nuclear winter
China would be far more likely to just sit back and watch. If it ended up with Europe and US fighting the Russians, the only winner would be the Chinese, and they wouldn't have to fire a shot.Wrec86 Ag said:
China is the wild card here.
If they see the opportunity to seize Taiwan and make a pseudo alliance with Russia, then WW3 is a legit possibility.
Russia doesn't have the capability to make it go much further without getting squished like a bug.
black_ice said:FireAg said:hunter2012 said:then Someone is going to twitch and lob a nuke.FireAg said:black_ice said:FireAg said:
Tyrants must be stopped…
We have a moral and ethical responsibility to stop them…
This is awful…
Ok. You Go stop a nuclear armed tyrant taking Ukraine. Let me know how that goes for you.
Look, *******…this isn't some ****ing joke…
This is serious **** right here…you can't turn a blind eye to it forever…
It's not going to stop with Ukraine…this is going to explode on a world scale…
Pay attention to China vs Taiwan…
And after that happens, there will be another, and another, and another…
It either gets stopped at some point by someone standing up to it, or the whole world
Implodes…
CORRECT…
Then what?
It will spiral out of control…
That's what will happen if we make a stand over Ukraine. Is Ukraine worth nuclear winter for you ? Will you stop your crying then?
TommyBrady said:
I think Putin is hoping Ukraine will make a deal. They don't seem to be ground invading anywhere near as deep as they could especially towards Kyiv from the north
black_ice said:FireAg said:hunter2012 said:then Someone is going to twitch and lob a nuke.FireAg said:black_ice said:FireAg said:
Tyrants must be stopped…
We have a moral and ethical responsibility to stop them…
This is awful…
Ok. You Go stop a nuclear armed tyrant taking Ukraine. Let me know how that goes for you.
Look, *******…this isn't some ****ing joke…
This is serious **** right here…you can't turn a blind eye to it forever…
It's not going to stop with Ukraine…this is going to explode on a world scale…
Pay attention to China vs Taiwan…
And after that happens, there will be another, and another, and another…
It either gets stopped at some point by someone standing up to it, or the whole world
Implodes…
CORRECT…
Then what?
It will spiral out of control…
That's what will happen if we make a stand over Ukraine. Is Ukraine worth nuclear winter for you ? Will you stop your crying then?
RQ-4 watching the Russian amphib landing in Odessa pic.twitter.com/CCfOe4qJ9W
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) February 24, 2022
By Russian and Belarusian troops.
— Doge (@IntelDoge) February 24, 2022
So now Ukrainians fight alone.
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) February 24, 2022
Belarus is nothing but a Russian puppet and have been for decades. They will do whatever Putin tells them to do.JobSecurity said:
CNN reporting that Belarusian troops also fighting against UkraineBy Russian and Belarusian troops.
— Doge (@IntelDoge) February 24, 2022
ABATTBQ11 said:AggieLit said:BD88 said:Source?AggieLit said:SpeedyNoilBurner said:
Biden is undoubtedly sleeping right now. Trump would be laying down the hammer right now on good ole Vladimir and showing him not to **** with world peace
The same Trump who was blowing Putin kisses yesterday? Donald Trump?
It was all over the news...
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-ukraine-invasion-justification-genius-savvy-2022-2
Calling it what it is isn't blowing kisses. Putin saw an opportunity and took it because he isn't a useless pants-****ting *****.
FireAg said:black_ice said:FireAg said:hunter2012 said:then Someone is going to twitch and lob a nuke.FireAg said:black_ice said:FireAg said:
Tyrants must be stopped…
We have a moral and ethical responsibility to stop them…
This is awful…
Ok. You Go stop a nuclear armed tyrant taking Ukraine. Let me know how that goes for you.
Look, *******…this isn't some ****ing joke…
This is serious **** right here…you can't turn a blind eye to it forever…
It's not going to stop with Ukraine…this is going to explode on a world scale…
Pay attention to China vs Taiwan…
And after that happens, there will be another, and another, and another…
It either gets stopped at some point by someone standing up to it, or the whole world
Implodes…
CORRECT…
Then what?
It will spiral out of control…
That's what will happen if we make a stand over Ukraine. Is Ukraine worth nuclear winter for you ? Will you stop your crying then?
Look dumbass…no…you don't make the stand over Ukraine…but you will have to either make a stand or capitulate at some point…
I'm musing about how wrong this is…I'm musing about how this will turn into more and more…I'm musing that we will eventually have to do something as this expands outside of Ukraine, and it WILL expand…
AggieLit said:
Trump's mancrush on Putin continued today...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-praises-putin-again-even-as-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-looms-saying-the-russian-president-is-playing-biden-like-a-drum/ar-AAUeiEY
BD88 said:
I dont watch your bs news. Nice spin by Business Insider run by a bunch of liberal hacks. One of which was banned from the securities industry. I digress. I just listened to the clip. I would suggest you do as well when you get your lips off of Biden ***. Clown.
AggieLit said:ABATTBQ11 said:AggieLit said:BD88 said:Source?AggieLit said:SpeedyNoilBurner said:
Biden is undoubtedly sleeping right now. Trump would be laying down the hammer right now on good ole Vladimir and showing him not to **** with world peace
The same Trump who was blowing Putin kisses yesterday? Donald Trump?
It was all over the news...
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-ukraine-invasion-justification-genius-savvy-2022-2
Calling it what it is isn't blowing kisses. Putin saw an opportunity and took it because he isn't a useless pants-****ting *****.
He called Putin a "genius" for moving troops into Donbas. I can't think of another U.S. president who has ever kissed ass to a foreign tyrant like that as they invaded a weaker country. We're supposed to stand for democracy. The quotes are sickening to read.
i would say yes.RangerRick9211 said:
How long can he weather the sanctions? It certainly doesn't seem like he cares.
Russian exchange already halted today. Things will only get worse for the normal Russian on an economic level. Not to mention the Oligarchs. Is it a game of attrition: Ukraine military vs. Russian economy/public palate for the squeeze?
BD88 said:
I dont watch your bs news. Nice spin by Business Insider run by a bunch of liberal hacks. One of which was banned from the securities industry. I digress. I just listened to the clip. I would suggest you do as well when you get your lips off of Biden's ***. Clown.
black_ice said:flashplayer said:black_ice said:FireAg said:hunter2012 said:then Someone is going to twitch and lob a nuke.FireAg said:black_ice said:FireAg said:
Tyrants must be stopped…
We have a moral and ethical responsibility to stop them…
This is awful…
Ok. You Go stop a nuclear armed tyrant taking Ukraine. Let me know how that goes for you.
Look, *******…this isn't some ****ing joke…
This is serious **** right here…you can't turn a blind eye to it forever…
It's not going to stop with Ukraine…this is going to explode on a world scale…
Pay attention to China vs Taiwan…
And after that happens, there will be another, and another, and another…
It either gets stopped at some point by someone standing up to it, or the whole world
Implodes…
CORRECT…
Then what?
It will spiral out of control…
That's what will happen if we make a stand over Ukraine. Is Ukraine worth nuclear winter for you ? Will you stop your crying then?
Which country on Putin / Xi's bucket list do we make that stand, in your view?
Maybe Taiwan. But not the Ukraine. Sorry if that hurts your feels. I visited Ukraine once. Nice place.
Probably not behind if completely. And no we would not know. They would likely be imprisoned or killed.redline248 said:
If Biden decided tomorrow to mobilize and invade Canada or Mexico, how much of the military would comply? Would we see any refusal by generals or companies?
In other words, is the Russian military 100% behind this? Would we even know if some were against it?
FireAg said:
Where did I ever say I WANTED to go to war…
Here's a news flash for you…of this escalates beyond Ukraine, we may not have a choice…
THAT'S our current dilemma and that is why I am completely heartbroken by this…
It's not going to stop at Ukraine, and what happens when it escalates somewhere where we DO need to do something about it?