Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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4:22p, 8/22/21
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From our tone deaf Secretary of State

https://twitter.com/hashtag/VictimsofTerrorism?src=hashtag_click

He's making Hillary look competent

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4:23p, 8/22/21
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A good overview of the Civil Reserve Air Fleet from Juan Browne (AKA blancolirio), a former Air Force C141 and C130 and current 777 pilot.

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In reply to cecil77 • 4:32p, 8/22/21
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cecil77 said:
Y'all that know how this works. Where are our soldiers getting food? Toilet paper and facilities? A change of clean underwear? Same for the thousands of humans there? How does all this go on for very long?

Food is MRE / quick strike packs which are easily flown in on transports coming in offloaded and then people get on the transports out
Toilet paper - lol, hope each man packed enough baby wipes
You don't really change underwear but you do pack them with socks and such in your day pack / main pack depending what you brought. As for cleaning, hand soak in an mre box and a trash bag and some water and hang dry then repeat. That's if you're luck with all the sand.

You squat to **** / but my guess is there are facilities
You pee outside
Both are designated areas
This is the dumb **** that everyone hates on field ops but does pay off.
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In reply to Agvet12 • 4:34p, 8/22/21
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Thanks. Sounds miserable.

What about 10,000 or so civilians hanging around? I just don't see how that kind of thing can go on for very long. Especially since I doubt there are many "Taliban Relief Agencies" working on this...
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In reply to cecil77 • 4:35p, 8/22/21
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The airport is definitely overcrowded and I suspect that is why the gates are closed. They are trying to get the number of people inside the airport to a manageable number.

Sounds like we didn't have an intermediate processing location other than Doha until yesterday.
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In reply to LostInLA07 • 4:37p, 8/22/21
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It would seem to require a bunch of food and generate tons of crap.
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In reply to chickencoupe16 • 4:38p, 8/22/21
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I've been following his channel for a while. Seems like a great dude and very knowledgeable.
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In reply to ReloadAg • 4:46p, 8/22/21
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Absolutely. Not that I'm a pilot or anything, but I'm always blown away by the knowledge and work that he puts into his videos. And the breadth; it seems like there's darn near nothing in aviation that he hasn't done!
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In reply to chickencoupe16 • 4:52p, 8/22/21
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I recall watching all of his updates on the Amazon plane that crashed near laPorte a few years ago. There was a good thread on here but then it just disappeared. Never heard what the final cause was there. I also listed to him a lot about the Boeing crashes
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 5:19p, 8/22/21
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I believe the Atlas Air (Amazon) crash came down to a bad pilot who had been let go from a couple of other airlines because of poor proficiency became spacially disoriented and flew the plane into the ground.
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5:49p, 8/22/21
... Really?

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5:50p, 8/22/21
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5:51p, 8/22/21
Wrong emoticon.

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In reply to will25u • 5:53p, 8/22/21
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will25u said:


The bar is so low, that would only mean the airport is overrun. And who would that be on.....
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5:57p, 8/22/21
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In reply to will25u • 5:57p, 8/22/21
will25u said:
... Really?



Can congress recall them?
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In reply to will25u • 5:58p, 8/22/21
will25u said:
Wrong emoticon.

26% are idiots
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 6:28p, 8/22/21
Agthatbuilds said:
will25u said:
... Really?



Can congress recall them?
Hayden hasn't served as CIA director since 2009. It's a little late to recall someone after they retired.
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In reply to Albatross Necklace • 6:46p, 8/22/21
Thanks.

Former head of the Cia.

Though, I'd like to ask the opinion of the current one on the matter.
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7:37p, 8/22/21


No video - audio podcast
Still listening to this.
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In reply to TChaney • 8:01p, 8/22/21
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If Russia wanted a strong play, pull Tajikistan is to the fray and see if Massoud would rather lead a self governing region.
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In reply to Ag In Ok • 8:04p, 8/22/21
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Ag In Ok said:
If Russia wanted a strong play, pull Tajikistan is to the fray and see if Massoud would rather lead a self governing region.
Self governing and having the Northern Alliance join Tajikistan is a non sequitor.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 8:07p, 8/22/21
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Governance wouldn't come from Kabul and they will have their tribal / ethnic brothers financial and equipment.
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In reply to TChaney • 10:11p, 8/22/21
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Open sewers in Kabul?
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10:14p, 8/22/21
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Having seen the crowds of people at the gates, suicide bombers are my biggest fear and have been for a few days. The longer we stay and the more agitated the populous and bolder the taliban become its bound to happen
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In reply to Agvet12 • 10:24p, 8/22/21
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The world is going to have some real problems if that happens.
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11:21p, 8/22/21
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Media still carries the water. Insane how far we have come to no credible news outlet. Jennifer Rubin is infuriating. Wake up!!

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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 3:32a, 8/23/21
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Agthatbuilds said:


Surprised it took this long. The Taliban have an unusual amount of control over their fighters right now but it isn't infinite.

Haven't seen this corroborated elsewhere but have no problem believing it either.
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4:58a, 8/23/21
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5:42a, 8/23/21
Good point...

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5:48a, 8/23/21
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