Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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No - just reporting what the guy is saying
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Captain Positivity said:

When we from the government then when everybody sees the transition take place then you'll see the current situation is currently still in military type situation but everything will be more clear when the government is formed
So, they have to pass it to see what's in it. All good then!
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We are seriously working on forming the government, first I would like to assure you when we will announce the completion. We have all of the borders under control. We will not be smuggling weapons across the border. All of the weapons will stay here.
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aTmAg said:

Is this Taliban propaganda thread now?


I'm trying to repeat Word for Word
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One of the reasons we went in there 20 years ago was because the Taliban were either complicit in or too weak to stop terrorist training grounds from existing in the country.

I would like to hear him say something about that going forward. Do they still support or allow terrorists to use their country?
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"You should ask that question of people who claim to promote freedom of speech. You should ask The Facebook that question."

Question was not interpreted so I'm not sure what it was about. Probably about Facebook banning the Taliban
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Isn't this called taqqiya?
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Captain Positivity said:

We are seriously working on forming the government, first I would like to assure you when we will announce the completion. We have all of the borders under control. We will not be smuggling weapons across the border. All of the weapons will stay here.


Because they already have more weapons there than they know what to do with.
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The current situation is kind of a martial law situation. If you see if some thing like a murder, then it was for security of nation.
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We don't want any buddy to leave the country, we would like to keep people here.
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Captain Positivity said:

The current situation is kind of a martial law situation. If you see if some thing like a murder, then it was for security of nation.


He had a very long explanation for that, with some caveats about not seeking it out, but I couldn't catch everything he said.
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Captain Positivity said:

aTmAg said:

Is this Taliban propaganda thread now?


I'm trying to repeat Word for Word
Maybe insert "Taliban propagandists says:" in there?
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Captain Positivity said:

The current situation is kind of a martial law situation. If you see if some thing like a murder, then it was for security of nation.


Sounds legit.
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Captain Positivity said:

The current situation is kind of a martial law situation. If you see if some thing like a murder, then it was for security of nation.


So basically saying they will kill those who fought and worked against them, mainly commandos
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So is this better or worse than Biden yesterday?
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We are assuring our countrymen that we do not want narcotics. In 2001 we had almost no narcotics. Production of narcotics has increased since the occupation. No one can be involved in drug smuggling. We saw a large number of our youth who has been using narcotics. That is so unfortunate. It is sad to see so many young people without any faith in the future. So from now on we will be a narcotics free country. We will have alternative crops. We can do that.

Commentary: Most of the narcotics flowing into Russia were grown in Afghanistan. Russia put a lot of pressure on them about the opiate crisis.
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What the name will be, we will leave it to the political leaders considering negotiations on that. We know it will be a Islamic government, for the benefit of the people. We will do our best to make sure everyone is included in the country, even those who fight against us in the past.

The government agencies will start working again very soon, when it comes to women of course they will come back to work within the framework of Islamic law. So of course, in education, and healthcare, and other things they will be able to work alongside
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aTmAg said:

Captain Positivity said:

aTmAg said:

Is this Taliban propaganda thread now?


I'm trying to repeat Word for Word
Maybe insert "Taliban propagandists says:" in there?
Maybe pay attention. It was pretty obvious the poster was live streaming a press conference
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Captain Positivity said:

We are assuring our countrymen that we do not want narcotics. In 2001 we had almost no narcotics. Production of narcotics has increased since the occupation. No one can be involved in drug smuggling. We saw a large number of our youth who has been using narcotics. That is so unfortunate. It is sad to see so many young people without any faith in the future. So from now on we will be a narcotics free country. We will have alternative crops. We can do that.

Commentary: Most of the narcotics flowing into Russia were grown in Afghanistan. Russia put a lot of pressure on them about the opiate crisis.

This is ironic . Because opium funded their fighting effort for 20 years
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Foreign fighters. We will not allow foreigners who wish to harm the security of other countries, any space in Afghanistan. One point, the Afghanistan soil is not going to be used against anybody. We assure the international community. Anybody who uses our land against other countries we are not going to allow them at all.
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aTmAg said:

Captain Positivity said:

aTmAg said:

Is this Taliban propaganda thread now?


I'm trying to repeat Word for Word
Maybe insert "Taliban propagandists says:" in there?


Its obvious what he was doing, why **** on him for providing a service for those who are unable to watch
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We have not reached the stage of naming a leader yet, we may reached that stage soon
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During the DOJ presser this morning, Kirby was asked about over 100,000 people who were on the evacuation lists (Americans, NATO allies' people and Afghans) and how long would that take? Could they do it by Aug 31st so as to meet the self-imposed (?) deadline?

Neither he nor the General with him could answer that question. But one thing is that neither one disputed that 100,000 number.
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Can women continue to work for the media in the same way as the past? Just wait and see what the future government is going to say. Our laws when it comes to media are going to be such that everyone should be able to work, so currently we can't present you with everything clearly yet as those laws have not been written.
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The Taliban guy is making me feel more assured than anything anyone in the Biden Administration is saying.
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This would align the official that stomped Brian Williams yesterday. He mentioned 85,000

This is a war machine that ingrained itself over 20 years and things have fallen apart so quickly. The number has to be huge
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Questions over.
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They can justify any murder or civilian death at the hands of Taliban fighters with this statement.
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The contrast between the leader of the Taliban and the leader of the USA is striking. Taliban guys is obviously bright and committed. His Q&A session was longer than Biden's whole press conference. Undecided on which one has less integrity.
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DannyDuberstein said:

This would align the official that stomped Brian Williams yesterday. He mentioned 85,000
Saw an interview with a reporter who was in Saigon in 1975. He said they had about 55 days to evacuate before the final 24 hours when it became chaotic. IIRC, he said they had evacuated 35,000 Vietnamese in the days leading up to that last day. And they got another 10,000 out that day.

All told, between American personnel and Vietnamese they extracted over 150,000.

That obviously is not happening in Afghanistan, although the General at today's briefing said he thought they could plane out every hour "sometime in the next 24 hours." And he didn't sound all that confident at that.

The final thing that jaw dropping at that presser was Kirby's flat refusal to address a question about how many Afghan civilians had dies at the airport and how many died from falling off planes. He would only say the Air Force would be addressing that question later today.
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Waiting for fractions to start breaking off from this so called Taliban Alliance. In 3 years it's going to have descended into civil war.
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Analyst on Al Jazeera: Seems that women will be allowed to work pretty much everywhere, police, attorney general office, etc. However, Islamic law is not some thing really written in stone. It's all interpretations, having to be done by religious scholars. That's why you see such a huge difference between somewhere ultraconservative like Saudi Arabia and other countries that have "Islamic law" but are much more liberal.
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I saw recently that Russia held joint exercises with Tajikistan and Uzbekistan aimed at the Afghan border. The statement was defending this frontier, but i can see them jumping in to save the Uzbeks and Tajiks from the Pashtuns. When the time comes, the former Soviet satellites just take the regions and their ethnic kin. Maybe.
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