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Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread
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annie88 said:So homosexuals are thrown off of buildings and thieves are just paraded around.AG 2000' said:Thieves.annie88 said:What do they do? Are they homosexual?will25u said:Taliban parade two men through streets with blackened faces and nooses around necks https://t.co/dCEr2n8GBG pic.twitter.com/1oWOu3d7PN
— New York Post (@nypost) August 16, 2021
Tarred and paraded around.
Interesting.
No. They'll cut a hand off as well.
“We can’t leave these people,” the official, now openly emotional, “This is awful,” referring to efforts on safely removing 88,000 Afghan SIVs, including interpreters. The official worried the situation could further deteriorate. “We now have the biggest targets on our backs.”
— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) August 16, 2021
And this is amazingly sad but we cannot bring them here.will25u said:“We can’t leave these people,” the official, now openly emotional, “This is awful,” referring to efforts on safely removing 88,000 Afghan SIVs, including interpreters. The official worried the situation could further deteriorate. “We now have the biggest targets on our backs.”
— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) August 16, 2021
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
Fight Fight Fight.
Oh but we willannie88 said:And this is amazingly sad but we cannot bring them here.will25u said:“We can’t leave these people,” the official, now openly emotional, “This is awful,” referring to efforts on safely removing 88,000 Afghan SIVs, including interpreters. The official worried the situation could further deteriorate. “We now have the biggest targets on our backs.”
— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) August 16, 2021
88, 000? From 30,000 to nearly a hundred thousand?
aggiehawg said:
88, 000? From 30,000 to nearly a hundred thousand?
At this point, if we can get them out of the country to a refugee camp where we can process for further vetting, yes. Fly to Guam or something and process. Send back those who shouldn't be there. The time for organizing and red tape has long passed. A hasty plan B is better than giving them to the Taliban. IMHO.
LoudestWHOOP! said:Waiting for the inevitable road rage.TChaney said:عناصر من طالبان وهم يلهون في متنزه في كابول 🙄🙃 pic.twitter.com/35OgXqgtJ7
— شؤون تركية (@TurkeyAffairs) August 16, 2021
How many of them were thumbing imaginary buttons as they bumped an "infidel?"
That is the tweet to some this all up.
While everyone is pointing fingers…there a few immediate facts. We left Americans. We left translators and locals. We left billions in military equipment that works. We suck. Period.
— Adam Housley (@adamhousley) August 16, 2021
What is shocking to me is how long it took before the cia flew out on their c130. Amazing really.
Pretty clear that plan A hadn't even been constructed. What a pathetic joke, we can't even withdraw from a third world nation without leaving behind Americans, sympathetic locals, and billions in classified equipment/intellectual property.
Not only that we've gone from 2,500 to 7,000 personnel.
Fenrir said:
Pretty clear that plan A hadn't even been constructed. What a pathetic joke, we can't even withdraw from a third world nation without leaving behind Americans, sympathetic locals, and billions in classified equipment/intellectual property.
Prime example- was there not a plan to secure the airport upon arrival?
Seems like reports only came out only today of that happening.
Agthatbuilds said:Fenrir said:
Pretty clear that plan A hadn't even been constructed. What a pathetic joke, we can't even withdraw from a third world nation without leaving behind Americans, sympathetic locals, and billions in classified equipment/intellectual property.
Prime example- was there not a plan to secure the airport upon arrival?
Seems like reports only came out only today of that happening.
Securing an airfield has been army doctrine for as long as I can remember. However, the sheer magnitude of civilians in the area probably made everything a million times more difficult. I can't imagine being a company commander there right now having to deal with such a complex situation.
This administration believed the country wouldn't fall as quickly as it did. All the intel on the ground was speculating otherwise (even a story in the Washington Post this morning about it), but that would have hurt the overall narrative of a peaceful withdrawal. After Biden's speech that this wouldn't be another fall of Saigon, they could not accept any intel that the whole country was going to fall so quickly. So, the official party line never was challenged after that day. Of course, the Taliban has a say.
Keeping Bagram open just to evacuate Americans and SIVs would have been the prudent thing to do, but it would have also been terrible optics for the admin and the short timer Afghan President, so they didn't even think about doing that.
How much better and effective would this whole **** show have been had they scrapped the narrative, kept calling in airstrikes, focused security on getting everyone out in an organized manner through Bagram and then left a few folks to turn out the lights and run, exactly like they did at Bagram a few months ago? Just a bunch of arrogant "sophisticates" who have no idea what they are doing.
Keeping Bagram open just to evacuate Americans and SIVs would have been the prudent thing to do, but it would have also been terrible optics for the admin and the short timer Afghan President, so they didn't even think about doing that.
How much better and effective would this whole **** show have been had they scrapped the narrative, kept calling in airstrikes, focused security on getting everyone out in an organized manner through Bagram and then left a few folks to turn out the lights and run, exactly like they did at Bagram a few months ago? Just a bunch of arrogant "sophisticates" who have no idea what they are doing.
Joe Biden: “The buck stops with me.”
— Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) August 16, 2021
EXCEPT, I will blame everyone else and then tout the Bin Laden killing, which I opposed!
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
Fight Fight Fight.
A good bit of the Afghan Air Force we paid for has ended up in Uzbekistan in the last 24 hours:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9898985/Uzbekistan-forced-landing-46-military-aircrafts-carrying-nearly-600-Afghan-soldiers.html
Some nice stuff too.. A-29 Super Tucanos, UH-60 Blackhawks, etc. Very Sad!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9898985/Uzbekistan-forced-landing-46-military-aircrafts-carrying-nearly-600-Afghan-soldiers.html
Some nice stuff too.. A-29 Super Tucanos, UH-60 Blackhawks, etc. Very Sad!
20 years, trillions of dollars, countless lives and limbs and this is the fighting force we trained to take care of themselves after we left. I’m starting to think we’ve been lied to by a lot of people in government. pic.twitter.com/kMgi9TImnu
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) August 16, 2021
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
Fight Fight Fight.
Americans?!will25u said:
That is the tweet to some this all up.While everyone is pointing fingers…there a few immediate facts. We left Americans. We left translators and locals. We left billions in military equipment that works. We suck. Period.
— Adam Housley (@adamhousley) August 16, 2021
At least they got that stuff out! Think about all the materiel that is now in hands of taliban, warlords, terror groups, highest bidders,Jayhawk said:
A good bit of the Afghan Air Force we paid for has ended up in Uzbekistan in the last 24 hours:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9898985/Uzbekistan-forced-landing-46-military-aircrafts-carrying-nearly-600-Afghan-soldiers.html
Some nice stuff too.. A-29 Super Tucanos, UH-60 Blackhawks, etc. Very Sad!
There are Americans still there. My guess more than we are being told. We are bringing in more troops. That's a bad sign.
NEW: Joe Biden has arrived back at Camp David and the White House has called a lid, according to the pool. An unknown number of Americans remain trapped in Kabul.
— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) August 16, 2021
Sid Farkas said:Americans?!will25u said:
That is the tweet to some this all up.While everyone is pointing fingers…there a few immediate facts. We left Americans. We left translators and locals. We left billions in military equipment that works. We suck. Period.
— Adam Housley (@adamhousley) August 16, 2021
I think I saw on one of the other threads it is around 10,000?
will25u said:NEW: Joe Biden has arrived back at Camp David and the White House has called a lid, according to the pool. An unknown number of Americans remain trapped in Kabul.
— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) August 16, 2021
Jesus Christ. Even if Trump was doing nothing else, he at least would have been all over Twitter...
Or at the White House.
annie88 said:And this is amazingly sad but we cannot bring them here.will25u said:“We can’t leave these people,” the official, now openly emotional, “This is awful,” referring to efforts on safely removing 88,000 Afghan SIVs, including interpreters. The official worried the situation could further deteriorate. “We now have the biggest targets on our backs.”
— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) August 16, 2021
Yes we can and we absolutely should.
So we're going to investigate what happened on Jan. 6, but not doing anything with this cluster F***
Now we run a real risk of there being bodies of dead American soldiers left behind. Thus completing the circle with Vietnam. Let us pray everyone of our servicemen come back alive.
If the Taliban just had some female leadership, this wouldn't happen“An Afghani interpreter I have come to know well over the years was hung in the streets last night. They melted his DoD ID into his chest. Cut off his arms. And killed his family.
— Joe Lonsdale (@JTLonsdale) August 16, 2021
His 10 year old daughter was spared and handed off to leadership.”
(From a note to my friend)
I read somewhere that only SEVEN Americans were killed in Afghanistan in 2020, and NONE since Feb. 8, 2020.
I suspect this 10,000 figure refers largely to dual-citizen ethnic Afghans with U.S. citizenship. Over the years we have given out citizenship to A LOT of Afghans, there would have been a significant number of them in Kabul visiting family etc. at any given time.
Taliban Collect Weapons From Civilians In Kabul As They "No Longer Need Personal Protection" https://t.co/A6LLjizTz1
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) August 17, 2021
The taliban really are ideological brothers to our white liberal friends.
IMHO...Afghani citizens that are/were loyal to the US are not the ONLY ones that should be trying to get out of the country. I won't name names, or which country he should be fleeing but let's just say that if he doesn't leave on his own...he ought to be deported. I would help him pack as he's probably not "up to" to figuring out what to pack without assistance and we all know he can't manage the steps to get onboard a plane.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
GCP12 said:If the Taliban just had some female leadership, this wouldn't happen“An Afghani interpreter I have come to know well over the years was hung in the streets last night. They melted his DoD ID into his chest. Cut off his arms. And killed his family.
— Joe Lonsdale (@JTLonsdale) August 16, 2021
His 10 year old daughter was spared and handed off to leadership.”
(From a note to my friend)
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