Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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There isn't enough hence the problem, it would have to be done in waves.
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This is bull***** Declare war already, drop in our boys (bombs) and run the damn country over!! Holy **** I can't stand this administration and their nonchalant bull*****
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Jsimonds58 said:

If they start mortaring the airstrip, there are only two options. Rotary wing exfil or driving out to ****ing Pakistan. And trying to exfil on helos while under indirect fire is absolutely going to be a no go. Which leaves us trying to saddle up thousands of us troops to drive to Peshawar. That is truly a nightmare scenario
If only we had a multi-billion dollar airbase we could use.
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The Fife said:

No way there's enough vehicles to get over 5,000 servicemen out.

As disorganized as the Taliban, ISIS, and whoever else claims to be out there are I'm surprised nobody has gotten a wild hair up their ass and decided to start shelling the airport already.


It would look like the second half of Mad Max, and the bad guys would probably win.
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translation
Last minute! Terrorist attack reported at Kabul airport . The number of victims is not yet known.
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Jsimonds58 said:

There isn't enough hence the problem, it would have to be done in waves.
Google says it's 156 miles. It would look like the highway of death in 1991 in no time.
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There is no command and control by the Taliban. They are just a bunch of loosely affiliated goons. That's why Biden acting as if anything they tell us will be followed by the goons on the street is completely moronic. "Just show them your US passport and you'll be fine." Most idiotic advice ever
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Not sure if this is legitimate footage from today.
(should have been dark - unless it's a newer explosion)
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TChaney said:



Not sure if this is legitimate footage from today.
(should have been dark - unless it's a newer explosion)
Gonna go with not from Kabul today.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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Looks like a missile or rocket strike, not a car bomb
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Seems like I've seen that clip before.
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Seabreeze said:

Looks like a missile or rocket strike, not a car bomb
Old video. I think it's an IED.
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DannyDuberstein said:

There is no command and control by the Taliban. They are just a bunch of loosely affiliated goons. That's why Biden acting as if anything they tell us will be followed by the goons on the street is completely moronic. "Just show them your US passport and you'll be fine." Most idiotic advice ever


This is not the same Taliban as 20 years ago, they do have structure similar to al queda now
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Agthatbuilds said:

It's already over for those not yet evacuated. That's the harsh reality and the result of totally incompetent leadership.


Now, we must do whatever it takes to protect our soldiers and Marines.
Agreed, its over for those not yet evacuated. (At least as far as feckless D.C. is concerned) Their best hope is a very rapid rise of the Northern Alliance, perhaps backed by Russia, that puts pressure on the Taliban and allies before they can even start organizing mass kill squads, if they have to fight a war.

If Russia backs Massoud, they will turn out a better actor than we for those left behind.
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The media is focused on this disaster in Afghanistan. When CBSN streams nothing about COVID, you know this is a full blown disaster.
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They apparently have multiple factions but operate under a leadership council on which each is represented, and it looks like political influence within that leadership council determines "policy", but I suspect top-down control is limited.
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Yep.

We have one option.

We must actively defend the airport perimeter. Give people a waring to leave the airport perimeter and then enforce a no go zone.

Cover the hills with air power and get the eff out. No more American soldiers need to suffer there. The biden admin gave up the remaining civilians. Don't make our soldiers and Marines casualties as well.
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I think we need a companion Consolidated Fall of America Update Thread.
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Too late for that.
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Can't wait to hear how Raggedy Ann is going to spin this later. More gaslighting I'm sure.
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Troutslime said:

Too late for that.
Yeah, how far away are the carriers? Do they have the capability of staying on station with the required air assets? I don't think so.
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Theres a lot more assets than just the carriers. We have aircraft in places that are much closer than people think. We have enough assets to protect the perimeter if needed
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Joes said:

I think we need a companion Consolidated Fall of America Update Thread.
I think we covered that in the 2020 election threads.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
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Jsimonds58
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Will have to chain tankers together to give the CAS good loiter time. Then roll them in and out constantly, it can work but it is going to be a massive headache
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B1, b2, and b52s are more than capable of providing air coverage. Right now.


It's not to late to clear the area around the airport. We have apaches and little birds at the airport. How else do you make sure there isn't anyone you don't want hanging around except to clear all out?
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Joes said:

I think we need a companion Consolidated Fall of America Update Thread.
Ha. See, I tend to think of F16 as a whole as that thread.
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Problem is the associated collateral damage, this administration is not going to have the stomach for that so it's a moot point. Our boys are going to be fighting with two hands tied
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Biden needs to go for this ****show. He absolutely ****ed up and is getting dozens and soon to be hundreds of people killed, add he will take 0 responsibility as always.
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Official Twitter Account of the Spokesman of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Zabihullah Mujahid

Translation
The Islamic Emirate strongly condemns the bombing of civilians at Kabul airport, which took place in an area where security is in the hands of US forces. The Islamic Emirate is paying close attention to the security and protection of its people, and evil circles will be strictly stopped
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Jsimonds58 said:

Problem is the associated collateral damage, this administration is not going to have the stomach for that so it's a moot point. Our boys are going to be fighting with two hands tied


Collateral damage is something that we must accept because we must get our military personnel out. Collateral damage is the result of the poor decisions of our leaders.

Suck it up. Get our people out.
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Blame the US, of course that's what those idiots do.
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Don't the Taliban have a complete cordon around the airport perimeter? How did anyone get through their checkpoints?

Maybe we shouldn't have entrusted our security to the Taliban?
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TChaney said:



Official Twitter Account of the Spokesman of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Zabihullah Mujahid

Translation
The Islamic Emirate strongly condemns the bombing of civilians at Kabul airport, which took place in an area where security is in the hands of US forces. The Islamic Emirate is paying close attention to the security and protection of its people, and evil circles will be strictly stopped


Well, if nothing else, they picked up the inane bureaucratese babble from us.
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