Texas Supreme Court Case -- Masks

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DripAG08
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Hoping it comes back tomorrow or Monday to put an end to this ****ing circus.

Jason C.
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AustinAg008 said:

Hoping it comes back tomorrow or Monday to put an end to this ****ing circus.




That clown is the Harris County Attorney. We live in a computer simulation.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Even though Dem controlled metro areas ignored the governor's order, they'll for sure follow a Texas supreme court order and everything will be fine.

Everybody comes to Jesus.

100%

Tap the vein, lock it in.

Law and order restored, everything back to normal by Tuesday morning.
Slyfox07
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C@LAg said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Even though Dem controlled metro areas ignored the governor's order, they'll for sure follow a Texas supreme court order and everything will be fine.

Everybody comes to Jesus.

100%

Tap the vein, lock it in.

Law and order restored, everything back to normal by Tuesday morning.
but you can send your kids to school au natural and sue the ISD if they try to make them wear one or segregate them.


Sounds lucrative.

I'm in!
MousepadMarauder
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A TX SC justice spoke today at a conference I am attending. She said that she was working last night and all morning on emergency mandamus matters. She also said they were circulating opinions close to midnight last night. No mention of masks specifically but it is clear they are working around the clock. No surprise but it was interesting to hear in light of all of the mask issues in the air right now.
BMX Bandit
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You whined and said Abbot should do nothing because that this fight was "not worth the cost" and would take so long to resolve in courts.

That being shown to be incredibly wrong, you are now pivoting to "they won't follow it anyway" ?

A+ texaging
LOYAL AG
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In before a liberal chimes in to tell us Abbott forbidding mask mandates is trampling on local control while ignoring that county mandates trample on the core principle of this nation, individual liberty. Abbott acted proactively to block the tyrants in blue counties in defense of Texas citizens.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
Roger That
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MousepadMarauder said:

A TX SC justice spoke today at a conference I am attending. She said that she was working last night and all morning on emergency mandamus matters. She also said they were circulating opinions close to midnight last night. No mention of masks specifically but it is clear they are working around the clock. No surprise but it was interesting to hear in light of all of the mask issues in the air right now.


Was she wearing a mask?
MousepadMarauder
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No masks in sight.
DripAG08
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Roger That said:

MousepadMarauder said:

A TX SC justice spoke today at a conference I am attending. She said that she was working last night and all morning on emergency mandamus matters. She also said they were circulating opinions close to midnight last night. No mention of masks specifically but it is clear they are working around the clock. No surprise but it was interesting to hear in light of all of the mask issues in the air right now.


Was she wearing a mask?


Probably the biggest question of the evening?
Stat Monitor Repairman
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BMX Bandit said:

You whined and said Abbot should do nothing because that this fight was "not worth the cost" and would take so long to resolve in courts.

That being shown to be incredibly wrong, you are now pivoting to "they won't follow it anyway" ?

A+ texaging
I've come to Jesus on the power of the Supreme Court!

Law of the land baby!

Book it!
Ukraine Gas Expert
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Fascinatingly when I am out and about it is clear the minority, not minorities, are wearing masks.

It's funny to hear all this social media outrage demanding mandates, but go out in public and magically less than half of the people are wearing them when they have a freaking choice. Shocker I tell ya, a real shocker
91AggieLawyer
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So I read the 5th COA "opinion" on this, which denied the Gov's mandamus request to ***** slap Clay Jenkins. It actually said, "we find the DISSENTING opinion... persuasive."

I have read TENS of thousands of legal cases. Probably from most of, if not all, the 50 states and all federal circuits. I have NEVER, EVER seen a sentence (or a thought expressed) like that. It was clear that the 3 judges had one thing on their mind: a win for Jenkins and Dallas County.

Abbott needs to call a special session and remove this power from these local officials. It is being abused.
rgag12
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BMX Bandit said:

You whined and said Abbot should do nothing because that this fight was "not worth the cost" and would take so long to resolve in courts.

That being shown to be incredibly wrong, you are now pivoting to "they won't follow it anyway" ?

A+ texaging


I'm starting to think that guy is a liberal troll. His whining and defeatism on every subject is so hyperbolic and nonsensical that I don't know what else to think.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Just callin 'em like I see 'em.

Soros's legion of Texas county judges will surely beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks!

They shall repent the error of their ways and retract their unlawful order by decree of the honorable justices of Texas Supreme Court of the great state of Texas!

Monday is the day that order will be restored to the galaxy!
TexasAggie008
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Google-image the names of the judges on the docket and it will all make total sense
Oak Tree
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LOYAL AG said:

In before a liberal chimes in to tell us Abbott forbidding mask mandates is trampling on local control while ignoring that county mandates trample on the core principle of this nation, individual liberty. Abbott acted proactively to block the tyrants in blue counties in defense of Texas citizens.


Abbott was the tyrant who imposed unconstitutional shutdowns and mask mandates on Texans last year.
blacksox
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91AggieLawyer said:

So I read the 5th COA "opinion" on this, which denied the Gov's mandamus request to ***** slap Clay Jenkins. It actually said, "we find the DISSENTING opinion... persuasive."

I have read TENS of thousands of legal cases. Probably from most of, if not all, the 50 states and all federal circuits. I have NEVER, EVER seen a sentence (or a thought expressed) like that. It was clear that the 3 judges had one thing on their mind: a win for Jenkins and Dallas County.

Abbott needs to call a special session and remove this power from these local officials. It is being abused.


In the tens of thousands of cases you've read, you've never seen a court adopt the dissenting opinion of a three-judge panel in a sister court? Really? Cause that's like a crazy statistical anomaly.
blacksox
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rgag12 said:

BMX Bandit said:

You whined and said Abbot should do nothing because that this fight was "not worth the cost" and would take so long to resolve in courts.

That being shown to be incredibly wrong, you are now pivoting to "they won't follow it anyway" ?

A+ texaging


I'm starting to think that guy is a liberal troll. His whining and defeatism on every subject is so hyperbolic and nonsensical that I don't know what else to think.


He's a far righty lawyer. His legal takes are pretty on point. Maybe your opinion is based on you knowing little to nothing about the law?
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Judges all over the country are smart enough to know which way the wind is blowing.

Its clear they are all scrambling to keep their jobs with the new regime.

All the folks that are quick to hang their hat on the judicial system gonna be in for a real treat.

you know imho.

91AggieLawyer
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blacksox said:

91AggieLawyer said:

So I read the 5th COA "opinion" on this, which denied the Gov's mandamus request to ***** slap Clay Jenkins. It actually said, "we find the DISSENTING opinion... persuasive."

I have read TENS of thousands of legal cases. Probably from most of, if not all, the 50 states and all federal circuits. I have NEVER, EVER seen a sentence (or a thought expressed) like that. It was clear that the 3 judges had one thing on their mind: a win for Jenkins and Dallas County.

Abbott needs to call a special session and remove this power from these local officials. It is being abused.


In the tens of thousands of cases you've read, you've never seen a court adopt the dissenting opinion of a three-judge panel in a sister court? Really? Cause that's like a crazy statistical anomaly.

Read what I said again.

I've had cases (of my own) at all levels (trial and appellate) where judges did exactly what they wanted to. They ignored the law, made up their own, or, in your words, adopt whatever opinion they wanted to in order to reach the conclusion they wanted.

What I said was I've never seen them actually put it in writing. Edit: To be even more clear (since some are missing my point), or to put it another way, yes, in legal briefing you "rip off" dissenting opinions all the time. But you never make actual reference to them because it gives the court (in the case of attorneys filing a brief) or a higher court (in the case of an opinion) a very good reason/excuse to deny or reverse your ruling. Instead of making references to the dissent, you argue the basis that the dissent was on. I haven't read the EP court, but I have my doubts (after reading the Dallas decision) that it has much in the way of sound law. Why wouldn't they simply use the authority the EP dissent used (that was rejected and not reviewed by the TSC, by the way)? Oh, and the EP judges don't exactly owe their offices to a bunch of Trump supporters, but that's a side issue.

I quit doing litigation because of judges. I have ZERO faith in them. But I'm amazed that the ones on this court are brazen (or dumb) enough to say that out loud.
AG81xx
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LOYAL AG said:

In before a liberal chimes in to tell us Abbott forbidding mask mandates is trampling on local control while ignoring that county mandates trample on the core principle of this nation, individual liberty. Abbott acted proactively to block the tyrants in blue counties in defense of Texas citizens.
There's nothing more "local" than the individual!
TxAgLaw03RW
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I think a limitation of emergency/disaster powers of both state and local officials needs to be addressed in a special session. Can you imagine if we had a D governor?
blacksox
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Lol wut? They agreed with one judge's opinion of a three judge panel. It happens all the time. It was a 2-1 vote in El Paso and you're arguing that it's crazy in the 10,000 plus cases you claim to have read that no court has decided with the 1-2 dissenter before. That's nuts.
Teslag
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blacksox said:

Lol wut? They agreed with one judge's opinion of a three judge panel. It happens all the time. It was a 2-1 vote in El Paso and you're arguing that it's crazy in the 10,000 plus cases you claim to have read that no court has decided with the 1-2 dissenter before. That's nuts.


I'm sorry your mandate is about to lose
rgag12
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blacksox said:

rgag12 said:

BMX Bandit said:

You whined and said Abbot should do nothing because that this fight was "not worth the cost" and would take so long to resolve in courts.

That being shown to be incredibly wrong, you are now pivoting to "they won't follow it anyway" ?

A+ texaging


I'm starting to think that guy is a liberal troll. His whining and defeatism on every subject is so hyperbolic and nonsensical that I don't know what else to think.


He's a far righty lawyer. His legal takes are pretty on point. Maybe your opinion is based on you knowing little to nothing about the law?


I am not a lawyer, but at least I don't embarrass myself pretending to be one, like you
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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The War Department went out late to get dog food and got harassed by a door greeter in Target about wearing a mask at about 9:40. She got pissed off and is still agitated. Yes, she is vaxxed and told him if they will shut down the border, she might consider wearing a mask but she wasn't putting one on at Target.
G. hirsutum Ag
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And while we wait, we hydrate!
Stat Monitor Repairman
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I still think that the least worst option is for Abbott to punt the issue back to to the local school districts.

I'll stand by that assessment.

We are on a road to nowhere with this.

I acknowledge that it sounds grim, it sounds defeatist, but I cant see where thrusting school kids into the middle of this political quagmire is going to do any good.

The more time that passes, the more I realize that the solution to all of these problems lies at the local level.

If you live in a big metro area, you get what you voted for and are subject to the majority of like minded individuals within that geographic area.

On the other hand, people that live in rural areas and want no part of this drama have a right to implement what they think is best in their community.

That's the way the system was set up from the beginning.

Local control. Let the local people handle the issue where they live.

It sounds snark, but everybody is getting what they voted for in one way or another. Thats the reality of the situation. Its rural and semi-rural v the big metro areas.

The good news is that everybody is free to move to a location where they can live among like minded individuals.

We are seeing this play out all over the country where land and houses in semi-rural areas are in very high demand.

Most people go along-to-get-along. They played along with covid just to try and do the right thing and get through it. It came back to bite us in the ass. A lot of folks rethinking where they are at right now. I can tell you that.
Rockdoc
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Let people make their own choice. That's as local as you can get. It's what America is about.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Agreed.
TheEternalPessimist
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Just callin 'em like I see 'em.

Soros's legion of Texas county judges will surely beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks!

They shall repent the error of their ways and retract their unlawful order by decree of the honorable justices of Texas Supreme Court of the great state of Texas!

Monday is the day that order will be restored to the galaxy!
I love sarcasm.

And the only way order is restored everywhere is to defeat democrats everywhere.
Oak Tree
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

I still think that the least worst option is for Abbott to punt the issue back to to the local school districts.

I'll stand by that assessment.

We are on a road to nowhere with this.

I acknowledge that it sounds grim, it sounds defeatist, but I cant see where thrusting school kids into the middle of this political quagmire is going to do any good.

The more time that passes, the more I realize that the solution to all of these problems lies at the local level.

If you live in a big metro area, you get what you voted for and are subject to the majority of like minded individuals within that geographic area.

On the other hand, people that live in rural areas and want no part of this drama have a right to implement what they think is best in their community.

That's the way the system was set up from the beginning.

Local control. Let the local people handle the issue where they live.

It sounds snark, but everybody is getting what they voted for in one way or another. Thats the reality of the situation. Its rural and semi-rural v the big metro areas.

The good news is that everybody is free to move to a location where they can live among like minded individuals.

We are seeing this play out all over the country where land and houses in semi-rural areas are in very high demand.

Most people go along-to-get-along. They played along with covid just to try and do the right thing and get through it. It came back to bite us in the ass. A lot of folks rethinking where they are at right now. I can tell you that.



I totally disagree. Conservative Texans elected Abbott and Trump...they imposed mask mandates on Texans. Do conservatives deserve that because they voted for them?

Now you want Abbott to not enforce his no mask mandates because Texans in large cities vote for Democrats?

That is a win win for Democrats...it's a perfect example of how Democrats are able to do anything they want.
 
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