San Fran office vacancies top 17 million square feet

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Seriously77 said:




Still the best city for romance with your special one, just keep it in mind if u r looking for fun in the summer time.



[Insert your favorite romantic homeless person poop picture here]
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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You almost can't help but think of the Salesforce Tower as some sort of Tower of Babel. Complete overkill and hubris rising above every other building by a large margin.

Just a few months after it opens Covid hits and SFO devolves another level into its ongoing downward trend to full cesspool status. And now 40%+ of residents would move away if they could.

The ceo is a well known leftist who bought Time Magazine in an attempt to return it to its former left wing glory. Would love to know his real thoughts on his trophy building now.
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SF & NY lead the nation in office vacancy increase. It's a combination of de-densification away from the most dense of urban cores that rely on mass transit and work from home practices of the tech companies.

On a relative basis Texas is a HUGE winner.
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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.

Just returned a week ago from our 3rd job (THIS YEAR), @ the Coastie base in Alameda.
it IS a crime infested dump.
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Aggie Spirit said:

SF & NY lead the nation in office vacancy increase. It's a combination of de-densification away from the most dense of urban cores that rely on mass transit and work from home practices of the tech companies.

On a relative basis Texas is a HUGE winner.


NY just voted itself to be the highest taxed state in the country this year so I'm sure that helped.
backintexas2013
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Alameda County is a ****hole. Oakland is one of the scariest cities I have been in.
Aggie Spirit
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On a related note, Texas (DFW, Houston, Austin) continues to lead the nation in office utilization as SF and NY stay in the dumps...

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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.

Don't think I've ever been heard San Francisco considered part of the PacNW. And yes I'd think everyone would know about Muir Woods.
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So they have plenty of room to house all these illegals they're shipping in.
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TxAgPreacher
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SF is on the list of liberal cities I'll never go to willingly.
Sea Speed
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TxAgPreacher said:

SF is on the list of liberal cities I'll never go to willingly.


How often do you travel, just curious?
pdc093
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Indeed!

SF is as well.
Fisherman's Wharf is NOT an 'attractive' tourist destination anymore.
The stench of human waste is overWHELMING in places (Target, downtown is nauseating).
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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.



I didn't know the SF Director of Tourism posted here.

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pdc093
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Maybe he meant PNW as People Not Working ....
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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.


I do appreciate you owning your left wing elitism and that only the right kind of people are deserving of SFO culture. At least you are honest and tells the rest of us all we need to know about the enemy (you).

It's also funny considering the number of restaurants that have permanently closed between your idiotic left wing wage policies and covid. Number was over 400 and that's a year old. No telling how many have closed since then.
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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.
And for the non-deserving? Let them eat cake!
TxAgPreacher
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Sea Speed said:

TxAgPreacher said:

SF is on the list of liberal cities I'll never go to willingly.


How often do you travel, just curious?
Irrelevant. When I do travel I don't go to Sodom and Gamorrah.

I prefer to go see things like the Palo Duro Canyon, The Grand Cannon, The Rocky Mountains, The Smokey Mountains, Big Bend, Mt Rushmore ect. I'd like to go Alaska and Montana . They are at the top of my list.
panhandlefarmer
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The farmer in me quickly converts this to acres and arrives at 390.27. I roll my eyes and say, that is just little over a half section, which ain't **** from a Panhandle perspective.
administrative errors
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It's funny how we laugh at china's ghost cities.
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91AggieLawyer said:

In years past, the smart investor would, if you came into 50-100 million, immediately buy a small commercial property. Now, one wouldn't even think about it. Even if the prices tank to the point that it looks attractive, you still don't do it because you don't know where the rental market will end up. About the only people in good shape are tenants renewing leases around now, especially in downtown or urban areas -- many of which are fixing to become wastelands.
Government is still a growth industry so commercial properties in areas where government contractors congregate is likely to be resistant to recession.

91AggieLawyer said:

We will see a lot of these spaces converted to data centers. What was once class A space will be filled up with network rack equipment!
I'm not sure large commercial real-estate can easily convert to data centers due to the increased HVAC demands. They would either have to use only a fraction of their square footage for servers.
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panhandlefarmer said:

The farmer in me quickly converts this to acres and arrives at 390.27. I roll my eyes and say, that is just little over a half section, which ain't ***** Panhandle perspective.


It's all relative. SFO is relatively small geographically speaking. It's the second densest city in the US because most are crammed up on the peninsula where downtown is. So, that much empty space is a pretty big void.

For some perspective, Dallas's city footprint is over 8x larger than SFO.
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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.


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San Francisco wants to become the next Detroit.
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harge57 said:

Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.





Seriously77 loves the poop! It's beautiful man.
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Seriously77 said:

Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.
I grew up going to San Francisco seemingly every weekend from Reno back in the 80's when there was about a million people in all of Nevada. My father loved the city and we spent a lot of time there on weekend vacations. My brother and I would explore the city on our own.

I also spent a third of my life living in paradise, given that is how Hawaii is both perceived and called, even by locals with the familiar phrase, "That's the price of paradise."

San Francisco is not what it once was, and not in how things naturally progress and change over time, but more of a cultural deterioration. The scenery and weather have not changed of course (California itself remains a beautiful state with great weather, which begs the question why are so many people leaving?), and if that were all than no it's not a dump, but the homelessness and all that entails has greatly lessened the luster of a once great city.

I certainly did not let my boys independently explore as my brother and I once did when he was 13 and I was 10. That change was most evident upon my return 30 years later. The drug addicted. I will however agree with you that if you think every street corner is a homeless encampment than you are incorrect. But there is a significant number of homeless and the severe and persistent mentally ill individuals wandering about that pedestrians will come across in comparison to years past. Maybe that's not evident to those who are more recent visitors or residents, but it was quite apparent to me.

But, the same could be said for Hawaii, maybe even more so due to limited area and relatively few high tourist spots such as Waikiki, becoming prime locations for homeless (my wife was attacked twice, on separate occasions, while running). What both San Francisco and Honolulu (all of Hawaii) have in common is they are known to vagrants as places where they can live without much interference in their lifestyle (i.e., drug use).
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Agreed. I've gone to SFO 1-2 times per year between pleasure and work for the last 15 years or so and it has devolved greatly.

No real mystery here as its simply a culmination of leftist policies bearing poisoned fruit over time. And anyone claiming differently is lying.
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YouBet said:

its simply a culmination of leftist policies bearing poisoned fruit over time. And anyone claiming differently is lying.
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administrative errors said:

It's funny how we laugh at china's ghost cities.
Not the same at all. China's ghost cities were built to create the illusion of GDP but never at any time were they prosperous cities. San Fran and other American liberal cesspools are becoming ghost cities because their leadership is so bad that leaving has become preferable to staying. In other words they weren't built to be vacant they were made that way by politicians. Democrat politicians to be specific. It is worth noting that the same economic philosophy created both. Liberalism for the win loss. Again.
Seriously77
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Number 2 on the greatest cities of the world, you guessed it!



Man, what a country we share.

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Seriously77 said:

Number 2 on the greatest cities of the world, you guessed it!



Man, what a country we share.


Just went 100% Democrat / Socialist and voted in highest taxes in the country. Also crime is rampant approaching pre Giuliani levels.

Your opinions are great!
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Seriously77 said:

Number 2 on the greatest cities of the world, you guessed it!



Man, what a country we share.




Oh

Are we done trying to convince us that "paradise" is a place 40% of its populace want to leave because it needs an app to track all the human fecal matter and dirty syringes?
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Muy
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Couldn't happen to a more uppity woke city.
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There is probably not enough electrical power in the entire state of California to turn on all the lights in all the offices in that building at once.

If that was managed, it would probably cause "THE" earthquake.
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The future lookin' kinda bladerunnery.
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