Ive never been, but I know people who left because it was too disgusting and dangerous to live in the "cool" areas.

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Some of you need to get out more.

SF is the 14th rated city of the world, my goodness.

The best of the best

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I left the Bay Area back in the early 2010's. It's nowhere what it once was. I had a job offer from SalesForce but had to move back to the Bay Area and there was just no way in hell I would subject my family to that again.

Can you imagine living in a place where the good old days were when you didn't have people pooping in your yard?

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In partial fairness, this is going on in a lot of places. I was doing some reading on commercial real estate over the last couple of days and the market for such isn't very good if you are an owner/investor.

In years past, the smart investor would, if you came into 50-100 million, immediately buy a small commercial property. Now, one wouldn't even think about it. Even if the prices tank to the point that it looks attractive, you still don't do it because you don't know where the rental market will end up. About the only people in good shape are tenants renewing leases around now, especially in downtown or urban areas -- many of which are fixing to become wastelands.

We will see a lot of these spaces converted to data centers. What was once class A space will be filled up with network rack equipment!

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I doubt they turn into datacenters. Those are highly specialized facilities, and your typical office building is not built to accommodate everything necessary. It would probably be cheaper and easier to just build a new facility and turn some of those office buildings into mixed use residential/retail/office.

Seriously77 said:

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Some of you need to get out more.

SF is the 14th rated city of the world, my goodness.

The best of the best

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"Job opportunities and infrastructure buildout pave the way as the world continues to rush in."
-San Francisco

It is so sad. My mom grew up and went to college in SF, got married to my dad in 1968 at the methodist church in the HA that is now a big homeless shelter. Lots of great memories of the views and dining from the 80s and 90s. RIP to a really special city.

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91AggieLawyer said:

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In partial fairness, this is going on in a lot of places. I was doing some reading on commercial real estate over the last couple of days and the market for such isn't very good if you are an owner/investor.

In years past, the smart investor would, if you came into 50-100 million, immediately buy a small commercial property. Now, one wouldn't even think about it. Even if the prices tank to the point that it looks attractive, you still don't do it because you don't know where the rental market will end up. About the only people in good shape are tenants renewing leases around now, especially in downtown or urban areas -- many of which are fixing to become wastelands.

We will see a lot of these spaces converted to data centers. What was once class A space will be filled up with network rack equipment!

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I doubt they turn into datacenters. Those are highly specialized facilities, and your typical office building is not built to accommodate everything necessary. It would probably be cheaper and easier to just build a new facility and turn some of those office buildings into mixed use residential/retail/office.

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I don't even think Google runs datacenters in California. Pretty sure I read recently that they operate their servers in Oregon in a facility built on a river where they can generate hydropower or something to that effect. The power needs are just too expensive to operate there. Bottom line is that California politicians hate anyone and anything that's productive, even those people that vote for them. It's easily the most unfriendly business climate in America.

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Still the best city for romance with your special one, just keep it in mind if u r looking for fun in the summer time.

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Yeah, just be careful not to step in ****

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Seriously77 said:

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Still the best city for romance with your special one, just keep it in mind if u r looking for fun in the summer time.

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Wrong. Not very romantic stepping over drugged out bums on your date night, or dodging piles of human waste. Last time I was there for 2 days I saw 3 live defecations walking through the financial district area. It's a city in a beautiful natural setting, but the leftists have let it deteriorate thanks to the idiotic policies you leftists support.

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It can't be all bad. Otherwise, Austin wouldn't copy it.

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Seriously77 said:

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Rated as one of the best cities in the world to live in. Progressive, young, hip and absolutely a must to go see.

Some of the best restaurants in the country, for the deserving of course and the natural scenery within 100 miles is breath taking. Love the Martinez area, did u know there is a red wood Forrest just outside this magnificent city?

I understand some not getting it, the place is not for everyone but if u think it is a dump year u need to get your news elsewhere, it is a paradise.

I just love the PNW.

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I do appreciate you owning your left wing elitism and that only the right kind of people are deserving of SFO culture. At least you are honest and tells the rest of us all we need to know about the enemy (you).

It's also funny considering the number of restaurants that have permanently closed between your idiotic left wing wage policies and covid. Number was over 400 and that's a year old. No telling how many have closed since then.

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If you were a real American you'd buy three extra teas.

I know you mean the focus to be the tower, but the building in the foreground is the real evil.