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I took J&J. No issues. No regrets.

I do find it humorous that people are so very anti vaccine due to uncertainty, but have no problem drinking 15 beers, Big Macs, Diet Coke, candy like crazy, nicotine and other things that we know are not good for the body.

Seems like if we are concerned about one foreign substance, we should be concerned about all.

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Great post.

This country needs a tad (a lot) more focus on healthy living. Sort of like those memes where you have the 300 lb man w/ McD's bag smoking a cigarette and yelling at people to wear their masks.

I have no idea really how you go about it b/c people are free to make their own choices (ie should not be coke size bans) but there is no doubt COVID has put a light on how an unhealthy lifestyle can have a more "immediate" impact on your lifespan....

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flogmat said:

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I took J&J. No issues. No regrets.

I do find it humorous that people are so very anti vaccine due to uncertainty, but have no problem drinking 15 beers, Big Macs, Diet Coke, candy like crazy, nicotine and other things that we know are not good for the body.

Seems like if we are concerned about one foreign substance, we should be concerned about all.

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So you think that people who got the vaccine don't eat poorly?

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Of course some do

His point is that someone with a BMI of 40 complaining about the safety of a vaccine rings pretty hollow.

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I don't have a BMI of 40. Many of us don't. If I did, I would get the vaccine because I would be vulnerable to COVID.

Rex Racer said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Rex Racer said:

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flogmat said:

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I took J&J. No issues. No regrets.

I do find it humorous that people are so very anti vaccine due to uncertainty, but have no problem drinking 15 beers, Big Macs, Diet Coke, candy like crazy, nicotine and other things that we know are not good for the body.

Seems like if we are concerned about one foreign substance, we should be concerned about all.

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So you think that people who got the vaccine don't eat poorly?

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Of course some do

His point is that someone with a BMI of 40 complaining about the safety of a vaccine rings pretty hollow.

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I don't have a BMI of 40. Many of us don't.

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Its funny that those people with bad eating habits are the reasons my rights were taken away. Most of the deaths were old, overweight folks right? 95% of deaths had 4 or more comorbidities... almost like the normal people are 100% fine. Wild stuff. Vaccines for this crap? Just buy everyone a treadmill and force them to run for 30 mins a day.

Zero regrets. Lots of people with far more medical training than me (doctor friends) and an appropriate level of skepticism got it and that was endorsement enough for me to get it. I never feared "dying" from covid, but saw enough people get very ill or develop long term symptoms that I didn't want to chance that aspect.

I do whatever I want and have zero concern. For example, if I want to go to Mexico or Greece this summer I can and no worries I'll fail a test preventing me from returning.

I think some folks here have developed an unhealthy mistrust of everything, that's a little much to me. That being said, more power to you to make personal decisions. Just don't ***** if people don't placate to your lack of belief in science.

I don't need the fear of death to get a vaccine. Hell, I'd get a vaccine for the common cold if they could develop an effective one.

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Zero regrets. Lots of people with far more medical training than me (doctor friends) and an appropriate level of skepticism got it and that was endorsement enough for me to get it. I never feared "dying" from covid, but saw enough people get very ill or develop long term symptoms that I didn't want to chance that aspect.

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Yeah man, I lost my smell and taste for like a week and a half, and that sucked. Didn't want to go through that again.

Nope. Felt no worries spending time with my immune compromised sister and parents (who have comorbidities) as we celebrated my sister being pregnant with a baby boy

I got the Pfizer jabs.

I got them for two reasons:

One, I'm an old.

Two, I realize we need to know more about this type of vaccine but I'd have signed up for a trial to do just that had I the opportunity.

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TXAGFAN said:

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Zero regrets. Lots of people with far more medical training than me (doctor friends) and an appropriate level of skepticism got it and that was endorsement enough for me to get it. I never feared "dying" from covid, but saw enough people get very ill or develop long term symptoms that I didn't want to chance that aspect.

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Yeah man, I lost my smell and taste for like a week and a half, and that sucked. Didn't want to go through that again.

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No need to be dramatic on your end...there are lots of people with long term issues. Facts not feelings, right?

Rex Racer said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Rex Racer said:

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flogmat said:

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I took J&J. No issues. No regrets.

I do find it humorous that people are so very anti vaccine due to uncertainty, but have no problem drinking 15 beers, Big Macs, Diet Coke, candy like crazy, nicotine and other things that we know are not good for the body.

Seems like if we are concerned about one foreign substance, we should be concerned about all.

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So you think that people who got the vaccine don't eat poorly?

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Of course some do

His point is that someone with a BMI of 40 complaining about the safety of a vaccine rings pretty hollow.

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I don't have a BMI of 40. Many of us don't. If I did, I would get the vaccine because I would be vulnerable to COVID.

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I'm not saying you do, just pointing out that it's only a meaningful point one way. Whether or not people who got the vaccine also have bad health habits really isn't relevant in this context.

SIL got 2nd shot and lost a child...

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Rex Racer said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Rex Racer said:

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flogmat said:

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I took J&J. No issues. No regrets.

I do find it humorous that people are so very anti vaccine due to uncertainty, but have no problem drinking 15 beers, Big Macs, Diet Coke, candy like crazy, nicotine and other things that we know are not good for the body.

Seems like if we are concerned about one foreign substance, we should be concerned about all.

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So you think that people who got the vaccine don't eat poorly?

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Of course some do

His point is that someone with a BMI of 40 complaining about the safety of a vaccine rings pretty hollow.

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I don't have a BMI of 40. Many of us don't. If I did, I would get the vaccine because I would be vulnerable to COVID.

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I'm not saying you do, just pointing out that it's only a meaningful point one way. Whether or not people who got the vaccine also have bad health habits really isn't relevant in this context.

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Then why the crying laughing post? (I realize that was not you.)

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Rex Racer said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Rex Racer said:

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flogmat said:

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I took J&J. No issues. No regrets.

I do find it humorous that people are so very anti vaccine due to uncertainty, but have no problem drinking 15 beers, Big Macs, Diet Coke, candy like crazy, nicotine and other things that we know are not good for the body.

Seems like if we are concerned about one foreign substance, we should be concerned about all.

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So you think that people who got the vaccine don't eat poorly?

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Of course some do

His point is that someone with a BMI of 40 complaining about the safety of a vaccine rings pretty hollow.

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I don't have a BMI of 40. Many of us don't.

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Its funny that those people with bad eating habits are the reasons my rights were taken away. Most of the deaths were old, overweight folks right? 95% of deaths had 4 or more comorbidities... almost like the normal people are 100% fine. Wild stuff. Vaccines for this crap? Just buy everyone a treadmill and force them to run for 30 mins a day.

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Nobody is taking away your rights

And FWIW, what constitutes being clinically overweight in terms of increasing your risk for severe COVID and what the average American sees as overweight are two very different things. Most people who are overweight don't realize they are. Healthy weights for any given height would shock most Americans.

I think the proper answer to OP is maybe? not sure yet?

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SIL got 2nd shot and lost a child...

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I feel like this needs elaborating.

Science Denier said:

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1. I took it
2. Did not have any reactions to it
3. I don't regret taking it

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This! Except I felt a little ill for a few hours.

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The Debt said:

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SIL got 2nd shot and lost a child...

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I feel like this needs elaborating.

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I feel like it's important to remember cause and correlation are still real things. While this is a terrible loss, miscarriages happen all the time and no reason automatically to blame vaccine. That being said, if I was pregnant wouldn't get shot and I'm pro vaccine.

I totally regret it. I said this months ago. I was bullied into getting the shot and now all this crap coming out confirms my regret.

Now they want to give it to our children.

I don't care if it's f'n safe. So is getting the virus.

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I totally regret it. I said this months ago. I was bullied into getting the shot and now all this crap coming out confirms my regret.

Now they want to give it to our children.

I don't care if it's f'n safe. So is getting the virus.

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This is the new battle for those with kids. This will be a huge issue with school in the fall...

Disregard my username for this one.....

I have had both rounds of the Moderna vaccine and other than feeling a little crappy the first day of both shots and my arm being sore for a couple of days, I have had no other effects at all. No headaches, no body aches, nothing.

I did not get the vax, instead I got Covid 2 weeks ago and had a 99.9 temp for 12 hours and the chills for about an hour. Never even had the sniffles.

After watching my neighbor suffer for 3 days after MRNA vax I faired infinitely better just catching Covid than he did.

I took the Antibiotic Infusion on day 3 even though I felt 100% because they said I could not get vax for 90 days after infusion so I know I can't be forced into vax until end of summer when everyone has forgotten about this farce.

I'm holding out for a better temptation...

Free donuts....no
Free burger and fries....no
free college education....no
free chance to win $1 MIL lottery.....no

Aggies guaranteed National Championship this year.......now you're talk'in, give me the Fauci ouchi!

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SIL got 2nd shot and lost a child...

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I feel like this needs elaborating.

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I feel like it's important to remember cause and correlation are still real things. While this is a terrible loss, miscarriages happen all the time and no reason automatically to blame vaccine. That being said, if I was pregnant wouldn't get shot and I'm pro vaccine.

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This, and under NO circumstances while pregnant would I have gotten any vaccine for anything.

TXAGFAN said:

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Zero regrets. Lots of people with far more medical training than me (doctor friends) and an appropriate level of skepticism got it and that was endorsement enough for me to get it. I never feared "dying" from covid, but saw enough people get very ill or develop long term symptoms that I didn't want to chance that aspect.

I do whatever I want and have zero concern. For example, if I want to go to Mexico or Greece this summer I can and no worries I'll fail a test preventing me from returning.

I think some folks here have developed an unhealthy mistrust of everything, that's a little much to me. That being said, more power to you to make personal decisions. Just don't ***** if people don't placate to your lack of belief in science.

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Most people opposed to getting the vaccine are those who actually believe in science. A minimum of 40 million people have had Covid in the US and it's likely more than 200 million when you consider how this virus spreads with such a large percentage of asymptomatic folks (most people don't get tested if they don't think they are sick and a huge percentage of people that were positive had no idea they were positive until they tested).

If you have had Covid there is no reason for you to get the vaccine if you believe in science. You have natural antibodies in virtually all cases that will last for decades if not the rest of your life. Is it possible you could catch it again? Sure, but it is likely a different strain or you never had it originally is the cause or just bad testing. Up until Covid people understood that if you get a virus you then have immunity in virtually all cases, for whatever reason that science has been thrown out for lunacy and paranoia.

Lots of folks don't get flu vaccines or other vaccines that are "marginal". Vaccines are not trivial, they are powerful drugs designed to change the way your body fights a virus. That's a great thing but you can't take any powerful drug and not realize it has risks. If it is worth that risk to you, great. If it isn't, great.

I'm happy for you that you can now travel and feel like your vaccine gives you privileges you never should have had taken from you. Realize though that the same logic now will say you need to get boosters every 3-6 months to maintain that status. It's also very easy to include other vaccines or medical requirements to that list. Pandora's box is really, really hard to close.

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Healthy weights for any given height would shock most Americans.

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Sorry, what?

I tested positive in late September. had what felt like an ear infection for one day.

I take immune suppressant drugs to treat rheumatoid arthritis. So I got the two-shot Moderna vaccine. for two reasons. First, if I got really sick and I could have done something about it, it would be my fault. Second, I was getting a lot of pressure at work to get vaccinated.

I had a reaction to each shot. I doubt I will ever take a future booster.

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How do those of you that are pro-Trump but anti-vaccine handle the disconnect between your distrust of the vaccine, your trust of Pres. Trump, and his direct involvement in the implementation of this vaccine effort through Operation Warp Speed?

Or do you not think there's a disconnect, and I'm missing a piece of the puzzle?

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First off, most people don't connect vaccines to politics or at least to either party. You have Republicans and Democrats on both sides of the issue.

Second, the majority of people I know that are opposed to getting the vaccine see it as a personal decision. They see it as something that people who are at high risk should get but not everyone that is healthy. Certainly many who have had Covid or suspect they have had Covid don't see why they should get the shot.

Are there those who make it all about politics? Sure, on both sides. Biden was spreading fear about the vaccine because Trump somehow rushed the process and made it unsafe. Then once he was in charge of course he went 180 on it and acts as though anyone that questions the vaccine is a crazy person.

I think the biggest issue is that there has been so much misinformation in general. It's very hard to know who to trust when the government is lying to you about some things and then tries to say they are telling the truth about other things. Mast wearing and shutdown justification is a great example of course of that.

Hope that helps with your puzzle piece.

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How do those of you that are pro-Trump but anti-vaccine handle the disconnect between your distrust of the vaccine, your trust of Pres. Trump, and his direct involvement in the implementation of this vaccine effort through Operation Warp Speed?

Or do you not think there's a disconnect, and I'm missing a piece of the puzzle?

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Well, Trump just provided funding and relaxation of red tape. He wasn't in the lab with test tubes. So he doesn't have much to do with vaccine efficacy or side effects.

So after this long thread, how many posters either will now get the vaccine or now regret getting it, changing their viewpoint because of something that some other poster typed?

I'm guessing 0 which would be the historical average for how many times a message board thread actually sways somebody's opinion on something, but just checking.

I got the flu, shingles and covid shot. I'm also current on all my other shots too. dTap or whatever.

Had a mild reaction to one but I can't remember what shot it was.

The negative covid test for what it's worth started during the Trump admin...yawn. Except to the extent that other countries disallowed we never lost that right and still haven't today, just have to take a test. In my case I don't really need to worry about an asymptomatic positive result...

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Healthy weights for any given height would shock most Americans.

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Sorry, what?

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Thankfully I don't deal with this too much. It's a lot easier to dissuade them of that delusion when they're experiencing a life threatening complication of their "healthy" lifestyle, which is when I usually meet them.

There are no "big is beautiful" folks in the ICU

TXAGFAN said:

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The negative covid test for what it's worth started during the Trump admin...yawn. Except to the extent that other countries disallowed we never lost that right and still haven't today, just have to take a test. In my case I don't really need to worry about an asymptomatic positive result...

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Not sure I follow how testing under Trump has anything to do with anything. I also think it is fair for a country to require testing, especially in the early stages of an outbreak.

My point was that your excitement about your being vaccinated is only a temporary pass. At some point they will require you to have an up-to-date booster as well or they will just add on additional vaccines. If that doesn't bother you that's fine I guess, I just disagree.

The larger point though is you wee saying that this is all about science and how people who don't get the vaccine don't believe in science. I brought up multiple examples of why there are scientific reasons not to get the vaccine for many people and you ignored them.

Your focus was on your personal experience which was you didn't have any problems. Good for you but a lot of people have. and many are very pro-vaccine. The reality is that most people are fine having the vaccine or not. Most people are fine if they get Covid as well.

I've gotten pregnant and had a miscarriage since having my vaccine. No prior history, two other kids. OB said that it's possible it was the vaccine, but I'm also 34 and that kind of thing increases as you get older. She said if I have another miscarriage, they can start trying to determine what the issue is.

I am second-guessing my decision a little and it's made me even less likely to run out and get it for my existing kids right away.