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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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Well, how do you feel about Senators that would vote themselves out of office with term limits at the first chance they get. Is it OK for them to stick around?

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No exceptions. There needs to be term limits. Those who vote to remove themselves in this way will go down as heros.

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Yeah, we are saying the same thing, I think. I want Cruz to stay in the senate until he legislates himself out of the senate with term limits, regardless of how long that takes.

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murphyag said:

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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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Well, how do you feel about Senators that would vote themselves out of office with term limits at the first chance they get. Is it OK for them to stick around?

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No exceptions. There needs to be term limits. Those who vote to remove themselves in this way will go down as heros.

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Yeah, we are saying the same thing, I think. I want Cruz to stay in the senate until he legislates himself out of the senate with term limits, regardless of how long that takes.

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I'd support Cruz in that effort but I doubt he would ever bring it up. The current group of senators do not care about any of us; they "serve" to enrich themselves and do just enough to keep getting re-elected.

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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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And who's your choice to replace Cruz?

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I'd pick just about anybody on this forum; it doesn't matter. We don't need political elites to tell us how to run the country. Mom and Pop business owner is far better than most of the current crop of senators in making sure we make ends meet.

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So a Democrat?

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Pookers said:

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Pookers said:

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murphyag said:

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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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And who's your choice to replace Cruz?

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I'd pick just about anybody on this forum; it doesn't matter. We don't need political elites to tell us how to run the country. Mom and Pop business owner is far better than most of the current crop of senators in making sure we make ends meet.

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So a Democrat?

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

Last week's Salmon or fresh Tuna?

Hmmmm, Tough question!

Pookers said:

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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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Well, how do you feel about Senators that would vote themselves out of office with term limits at the first chance they get. Is it OK for them to stick around?

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No exceptions. There needs to be term limits. Those who vote to remove themselves in this way will go down as heros.

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Yeah, we are saying the same thing, I think. I want Cruz to stay in the senate until he legislates himself out of the senate with term limits, regardless of how long that takes.

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I'd support Cruz in that effort but I doubt he would ever bring it up. The current group of senators do not care about any of us; they "serve" to enrich themselves and do just enough to keep getting re-elected.

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https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-colleagues-reintroduce-constitutional-amendment-imposing-congressional-term-limits

Obviously doomed from the beginning, but, he did at least "bring it up". Not the first time he has, either.

I'll continue to support him as long as he keeps bringing this to the table.

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Texarkanaag69 said:

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murphyag said:

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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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And who's your choice to replace Cruz?

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I'd pick just about anybody on this forum; it doesn't matter. We don't need political elites to tell us how to run the country. Mom and Pop business owner is far better than most of the current crop of senators in making sure we make ends meet.

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So a Democrat?

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Thanks for the clarification.

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murphyag said:

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I will always be a Ted Cruz supporter, but have given up hope of him ever getting the nod.

I would choose Trump over DeSantis. DeSantis would still be a nobody if not for Trump.

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We need Cruz's voice in the Senate.

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He has the opportunity to be there for 2 to 4 more decades. I hope he stays.

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I hope every single one of them are kicked out and replaced with non establishment types. Serving a lifetime in the senate should NOT be an option.

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Well, how do you feel about Senators that would vote themselves out of office with term limits at the first chance they get. Is it OK for them to stick around?

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No exceptions. There needs to be term limits. Those who vote to remove themselves in this way will go down as heros.

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Yeah, we are saying the same thing, I think. I want Cruz to stay in the senate until he legislates himself out of the senate with term limits, regardless of how long that takes.

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I'd support Cruz in that effort but I doubt he would ever bring it up. The current group of senators do not care about any of us; they "serve" to enrich themselves and do just enough to keep getting re-elected.

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https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-colleagues-reintroduce-constitutional-amendment-imposing-congressional-term-limits

Obviously doomed from the beginning, but, he did at least "bring it up". Not the first time he has, either.

I'll continue to support him as long as he keeps bringing this to the table.

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I think Cruz is an interesting guy (and I've voted for him multiple times). Most of these discussions are pie in the sky talks anyways until the average American decides to get involved in politics in a more substantial way than voting every 2 years.

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Last week's Salmon or fresh Tuna?

Hmmmm, Tough question!

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Either is better than a set of drawers full of passed pudding.

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Bingo. Don't let anyone run who wants to.

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Bingo. Don't let anyone run who wants to.

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I think it might be interesting to have a jury duty type system which would offer a salary to cover time spent serving and then perhaps making them exempt for paying taxes after service is complete. There would be no way to volunteer to serve unless you were selected at random jury duty style. The pool who would qualify for this jury duty selection would be tax paying citizens only.

I've always thought that congress is two years because they were afraid that otherwise no one would serve. Go server for a couple years then come back home and do what you do.

But no one seems to want to acknowledge that Trump is too old. He'll turn 78 June of 2024. That's just too old.

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I've always thought that congress is two years because they were afraid that otherwise no one would serve. Go server for a couple years then come back home and do what you do.

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I think the current term lengths are fine provided they are limited to a single term. We need a way to prevent an establishment from forming. We need to get corporate cash and foreign donations out of the picture as well. None of this is likely to happen but perhaps after the crash one of the rebuild nations can adopt such a system.

Desantis

DeSantis

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Bingo. Don't let anyone run who wants to.

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I think it might be interesting to have a jury duty type system which would offer a salary to cover time spent serving and then perhaps making them exempt for paying taxes after service is complete. There would be no way to volunteer to serve unless you were selected at random jury duty style. The pool who would qualify for this jury duty selection would be tax paying citizens only.

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Senators are smart people. Very smart.

I don't want some guy that has spent his last 20 years playing call of duty while smoking weed on his mom's couch every evening after a grueling day working the counter at Gamestop to be a senator.

The general idea of being voluntold is kinda neat, but we need qualified people in there. Knowing about the legal system is a huge plus, obviously.

Who will be the 2024 Republican nominee? | Political Betting Odds (predictit.org)

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DeSantis. It's not about who YOU like. It's about who can win.

White women will vote for DeSantis. They won't vote for Trump.

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Blue collar Democrats across the midwest and PA will cross over and vote for Trump in huge numbers. I think that's how you win in 24.

Not sure DeSantis can pull off that trick yet.

I love them both tho.

I believe that the Virginia governor's race results demonstrate that to win the suburbs and the vote of most women, the Republicans need to run someone other than Trump. DeSantis, IMHO, is the clear choice.

Elephant in the room - TRUMP IS TOO OLD

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Bingo. Don't let anyone run who wants to.

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I think it might be interesting to have a jury duty type system which would offer a salary to cover time spent serving and then perhaps making them exempt for paying taxes after service is complete. There would be no way to volunteer to serve unless you were selected at random jury duty style. The pool who would qualify for this jury duty selection would be tax paying citizens only.

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Senators are smart people. Very smart.

I don't want some guy that has spent his last 20 years playing call of duty while smoking weed on his mom's couch every evening after a grueling day working the counter at Gamestop to be a senator.

The general idea of being voluntold is kinda neat, but we need qualified people in there. Knowing about the legal system is a huge plus, obviously.

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I'm spitballing here. We need a system that prevents people from enriching themselves off government service.

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I'm spitballing here. We need a system that prevents people from enriching themselves off government service.

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but... but... That's unAmerican!

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Bingo. Don't let anyone run who wants to.

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I think it might be interesting to have a jury duty type system which would offer a salary to cover time spent serving and then perhaps making them exempt for paying taxes after service is complete. There would be no way to volunteer to serve unless you were selected at random jury duty style. The pool who would qualify for this jury duty selection would be tax paying citizens only.

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Senators are smart people. Very smart.

I don't want some guy that has spent his last 20 years playing call of duty while smoking weed on his mom's couch every evening after a grueling day working the counter at Gamestop to be a senator.

The general idea of being voluntold is kinda neat, but we need qualified people in there. Knowing about the legal system is a huge plus, obviously.

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I'm spitballing here. We need a system that prevents people from enriching themselves off government service.

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So you want to get rid of every elected official in Washington, and every private company that gets money through things that Washington gets then through contracts? I'm game.

The only thing that has EVER worked at doing this is federalism.

You have to shrink the size of the public trust. That way, the graft becomes less profitable.

Move 90% of tax expenditure decisions and government regulation of business out of DC and into the hands of state and local governments. Any rules you put in place will just be gamed by smart people that spend all of their life scheming with ways to game the rules.

DeSantis.

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Democrats and republicans are the same. I'd vote for any non establishment candidate. I might even entertain some sort of jury duty system where people are forced to serve or something. People who want to be politicians are generally ****heads who want to line their pockets.

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Bingo. Don't let anyone run who wants to.

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I think it might be interesting to have a jury duty type system which would offer a salary to cover time spent serving and then perhaps making them exempt for paying taxes after service is complete. There would be no way to volunteer to serve unless you were selected at random jury duty style. The pool who would qualify for this jury duty selection would be tax paying citizens only.

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Senators are smart people. Very smart.

I don't want some guy that has spent his last 20 years playing call of duty while smoking weed on his mom's couch every evening after a grueling day working the counter at Gamestop to be a senator.

The general idea of being voluntold is kinda neat, but we need qualified people in there. Knowing about the legal system is a huge plus, obviously.

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I'm spitballing here. We need a system that prevents people from enriching themselves off government service.

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So you want to get rid of every elected official in Washington, and every private company that gets money through things that Washington gets then through contracts? I'm game.

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I really see no benefit the federal government provides me. All they do is extract taxes from me and waste it in limitless ways that provide zero benefit to me. The "United States" is almost a meme at this point. We need to take the power from the feds and give that back to the states. The Anti Federalists where spot on with their predictions.

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The only thing that has EVER worked at doing this is federalism.

You have to shrink the size of the public trust. That way, the graft becomes less profitable.

Move 90% of tax expenditure decisions and government regulation of business out of DC and into the hands of state and local governments. Any rules you put in place will just be gamed by smart people that spend all of their life scheming with ways to game the rules.

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Spot on.

I don't think it matters. Whoever it is will be the next POTUS.

Democrats have nothing. They probably should've left Kamala off the ticket last time so she could be a fresh face for this round.

They will roll Big Mike out there with Kamala

Trump, then Desantis 2028

I'm very proud DeSantis but Trump saved the Republic [with God's hand] and he ain't done yet

DeSantis

MSM, NPR, and most others continue to beat the drum on Jan 6 and how close we all were to falling into a Nicaraguan type authoritarian regime. They refuse to talk about Trump's policies and how much better they were for American than Biden's.

I don't believe there is anyway for Trump to get a decent part of middle America to vote for him in a general election. The sooner the GOP can move on with new candidates with more appeal to the uneducated masses the better.

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I'm very proud DeSantis but Trump saved the Republic [with God's hand] and he ain't done yet

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Trump still back in office by end of 2022? What's the status?