For a big ol boy, he's such a baby.

cz308 said:

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For a big ol boy, he's such a baby.

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He's stoned

Readzilla said:

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i heard pooping and thought that was a random thing to say

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Not exactly sure what that is but assume it's a drug term.

saying he cant breath while screaming in the car. Would make the officers not believe it later

pooping like number 2 lol

This whole thing was, without doubt, simply an unfortunate situation.

It's too bad that the rioters next month won't care.

He's kicking with his legs so they ask about a hobble.

And the Code 3 is called.

Resisting like a mf.

He's saying goodbye to his family because he knows his heart is about to give out.

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He knows he is overdosing and is freaking out. So stupid he would rather die trying to get out of an arrest for suspected forgery than tell the cops he swallowed too many drugs.

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As said earlier stop trying to rationalize his thought process. He's high. We'll never know what was going through his head, but I seriously doubt he knows he OD'd. *stated as a non-medical professional

Wonder if anyone on the jury hadn't seen this whole video before and if it will change their opinion.

aggiehawg said:

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Floyd says he was "hooping" a bit before.

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Per Megyn Kelly, "hooping" is a method of anal ingestion of drugs.

Fightin TX Aggie said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Floyd says he was "hooping" a bit before.

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Per Megyn Kelly, "hooping" is a method of anal ingestion of drugs.

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I was gonna suggest that, but didn't want to be ridiculed.

Did the ME check his ass?

To note, the MRT used is "similar to" the one in the MPD training manual. The police chief has said that officers are not trained to place their knee on a suspect's neck. Both him and the training officer are supposed to testify so I imagine they will better clarify how Chauvin's restraint differentiates from the one employed by Chauvin. From a local new link:

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The training materials specify: "the maximal restraint technique shall only be used in situations where handcuffed subjects are combative and still pose a threat to themselves, officers or others, or could cause significant damage property if not properly restrained."

The slide that includes the photo states that officers should "Place the subject in the recovery position to alleviate positional asphyxia."

MPD Chief Medaria Arradondo has said in interviews and press conferences following the death of George Floyd that officers are not trained to place their knee on a suspect's neck like Chauvin did to Floyd.

An MPD spokesperson, when asked about the training materials Wednesday, said they have been advised not to comment about the open court proceedings and could not say any more on the topic.

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Also, it wasn't "by the book" as they denied the recovery position. I believe Lane asks Chauvin - twice - if they should place Floyd in the recovery position and each time Chauvin said no.

waitwhat? said:

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gbaby23 said:

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He knows he is overdosing and is freaking out. So stupid he would rather die trying to get out of an arrest for suspected forgery than tell the cops he swallowed too many drugs.

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As said earlier stop trying to rationalize his thought process. He's high. We'll never know what was going through his head, but I seriously doubt he knows he OD'd. *stated as a non-medical professional

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People that do drugs regularly know the effects, particularly different types and quantities. He might not have known he was overdosing, but he could connect the dots between 1/4, 1/2 and what would happen if he took a full hit for example.

Teflon Don. said:

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He's saying goodbye to his family because he knows his heart is about to give out.

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He did the same thing when he was arrested in May of the previous year. Calling for his Mama etc. But the jury may not seen the video of that arrest as it stands now.

All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

looks like this officer checked his pulse just now

It is pretty gross sounding, but addicts are going to addict.

Dispatch says EMS has received "updated location." EMS was sent to the wrong place.

This footage is damning for the police. Floyd is dead here.

I don't know if any of you have watched a person die, but my dad died of lung cancer and I had to watch after we removed the ventilator. It was horrific and his body still moved for a while after he was clearly dead. He would still gasp for air after he was gone.

This clip will be what gets Chauvin on manslaughter unless the defense can pull off a miracle.

FriscoKid said:

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All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

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If that's the case, as it appears, why didn't they get off of him once he was subdued and cuffed? Was it necessary to stay on him for that long?

larry culpepper said:

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FriscoKid said:

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All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

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If that's the case, as it appears, why didn't they get off of him once he was subdued and cuffed? Was it necessary to stay on him for that long?

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Rewind the video 5 minutes and you will see your answer. They didn't want him to start attacking them again.

larry culpepper said:

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FriscoKid said:

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All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

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If that's the case, as it appears, why didn't they get off of him once he was subdued and cuffed? Was it necessary to stay on him for that long?

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Yep. The defense will need to pull off a miracle.

The medical experts will have to testify that it was the drugs that killed Floyd and that the timing of the knee on the neck was just coincidence.

Officer Kueng's body cam. Exhibit 43.

Sign on the smoke shop said MUST BE 21 TO ENTER. LOL. Martin, the store clerk didn't know that.

aggiehawg said:

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waitwhat? said:

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This footage is damning for the police. Floyd is dead here.

I don't know if any of you have watched a person die, but my dad died of lung cancer and I had to watch after we removed the ventilator. It was horrific and his body still moved for a while after he was clearly dead. He would still gasp for air after he was gone.

This clip will be what gets Chauvin on manslaughter unless the defense can pull off a miracle.

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No it is not damning for the police at all. And yes, I have seen a few family members pass away.

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I think it's damning because he was clearly unconscious and potentially dead (this may be hindsight being 20/20, to be fair) several minutes before they let off his neck.

His movements reminded me of someone dying. They didn't look premeditated or faked.

Again murder is out, but the defense has some work to do on manslaughter.

waitwhat? said:

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larry culpepper said:

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FriscoKid said:

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All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

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If that's the case, as it appears, why didn't they get off of him once he was subdued and cuffed? Was it necessary to stay on him for that long?

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Yep. The defense will need to pull off a miracle.

The medical experts will have to testify that it was the drugs that killed Floyd and that the timing of the knee on the neck was just coincidence.

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He appears to have done exactly what he was trained to do.

FriscoKid said:

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larry culpepper said:

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FriscoKid said:

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All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

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If that's the case, as it appears, why didn't they get off of him once he was subdued and cuffed? Was it necessary to stay on him for that long?

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Rewind the video 5 minutes and you will see your answer. They didn't want him to start attacking them again.

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Ok, that's what the cuffs are for.

I just cant see any justification for the length of time unless they were trying to get him to pass out but not die, which almost certainly is not police protocol.

I agree Floyd was in the wrong to resist like that, but cops are trained to handle this kind of stuff...

Just out of curiosity, since you've become clearly heavily invested (like most of us on this thread), but are also commenting regularly, what is your professional background? Anything in the legal field? Or just an interested party?

waitwhat? said:

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aggiehawg said:

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waitwhat? said:

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This footage is damning for the police. Floyd is dead here.

I don't know if any of you have watched a person die, but my dad died of lung cancer and I had to watch after we removed the ventilator. It was horrific and his body still moved for a while after he was clearly dead. He would still gasp for air after he was gone.

This clip will be what gets Chauvin on manslaughter unless the defense can pull off a miracle.

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No it is not damning for the police at all. And yes, I have seen a few family members pass away.

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I think it's damning because he was clearly unconscious and potentially dead (this may be hindsight being 20/20, to be fair) several minutes before they let off his neck.

His movements reminded me of someone dying. They didn't look premeditated or faked.

Again murder is out, but the defense has some work to do on manslaughter.

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Can someone explain this to me? I thought the overzealous murder charges meant they couldn't get him on manslaughter.. im guessing I'm incorrect here.

larry culpepper said:

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FriscoKid said:

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larry culpepper said:

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FriscoKid said:

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All three of the officers are on him at this point and they are just trying to control him and keep him from kicking, spitting, etc. He was fighting them like hell. Don't see how this looks good for the state.

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If that's the case, as it appears, why didn't they get off of him once he was subdued and cuffed? Was it necessary to stay on him for that long?

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Rewind the video 5 minutes and you will see your answer. They didn't want him to start attacking them again.

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Ok, that's what the cuffs are for.

I just cant see any justification for the length of time unless they were trying to get him to pass out but not die, which almost certainly is not police protocol.

I agree Floyd was in the wrong to resist like that, but cops are trained to handle this kind of stuff...

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He was resisting with the cuffs on...