How many states have not declared themselves yet? There can't be many
TX sues GA, MI, WI, and PA at Supreme Court
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The number of states joining this, makes it that much more credible and unconscionable for the SC to refused to hear the case.
Lorne Malvo said:Pumpkinhead said:
Just 48 hours now (at most) of this 'overturn 2020 election' drama, before that POTUS election finally goes into the books and the political world moves on to the next phase of its never ending fighting.
Go ahead and continue to bury your head in the sand since "your guy" won by all means necessary, even breaking the law to do so.
Not burying my head in sand. Just stating the 2020 election isn't going to get overturned. And just another 48 hours before the EC nail is hammered in.
That is what's going to happen. Now maybe some of this stuff going on will have an impact on how future elections are conducted, but 2020 has about run its course.
New New York, new New Hampshire, new New Mexico, and new New Jersey haven't weighed in.
He's not making it easy for the S.Ct. to rule for him by blasting what they should do if they have great Wisdom and Courage. Just be quiet about the Court (while still going off on the stolen election and fraud), and that way if they decide for you they don't look like they are doing as, err, bidden. The Court wants to avoid the appearance of partiality.will25u said:
Obviously this wasn't meant for the S.Ct. though, but for his audience.
Members of the Democratic Caucus of the Senate of PA ISO Defendants. I've given up reading all of these unless it's one of the main actors or the off-beat participants.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163603/20201211152108731_Senate%20D%20Caucus%20Amicus%2012.11.20%20final_Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20et%20al.pdf
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163603/20201211152108731_Senate%20D%20Caucus%20Amicus%2012.11.20%20final_Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20et%20al.pdf
Why does Alaska have to make sure Missouri does not oppose the request?
Given how ticked off New Yorkers are at Cuomos and DeBlasio's tyranny, I wouldn't count them out yet!Faustus said:
New New York, new New Hampshire, new New Mexico, and new New Jersey haven't weighed in.
This is grand--- fully HALF of the United States are on board. They need to keep this coalition and beat up on D.C. next year for a change, rather than having things rammed down on the states.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
well i mean yeah, but also, Do you know this man?Ag87H2O said:I appreciate and enjoy Trump's tweets as much as anybody, but he needs to sit back and leave this one alone. He cannot be perceived as trying to influence the court in any way. Best not to poke that bear and give it a reason to turn on him.will25u said:
aint no way
You can't honestly believe this, right?FIDO_Ags said:Quote:
I appreciate and enjoy Trump's tweets as much as anybody, but he needs to sit back and leave this one alone. He cannot be perceived as trying to influence the court in any way. Best not to poke that bear and give it a reason to turn on him.
He can't. He made up all of this stuff and now he has to follow the lie that over 50 million people believe to the end. Sad really really because it could have terrifying consequences for the country.
Right, he "made it up." Great argument (which conveniently ignores the mountains of evidence). Interesting that Trump's "lies" have duped multiple states, multiple attorneys and attorneys general, and half the country.FIDO_Ags said:Quote:
I appreciate and enjoy Trump's tweets as much as anybody, but he needs to sit back and leave this one alone. He cannot be perceived as trying to influence the court in any way. Best not to poke that bear and give it a reason to turn on him.
He can't. He made up all of this stuff and now he has to follow the lie that over 50 million people believe to the end. Sad really really because it could have terrifying consequences for the country.
You are a troll or so riddled with TDS that you can't have an honest discussion.
Pumpkinhead said:
Opinions by some mainstream conservative types seem to be this was a well crafted legal play by TX and co, unlike some of the other challenges that were filed over last several weeks, but since SCOTUS is not going to want to start an actual Civil War, this attempt will also fail (in terms of affecting 2020) and just a question of exactly how the rejection response is delivered over next couple of days.
If they do that, they do more damage to the Republic than actually hearing the case and making a ruling...We are on unprecedented ground here so I don't think anyone knows with any certainty what the SCOTUS would do. They either take this case and keep the Republic in tact, or they dont and just become another arm of the deep state. Thats the position they are in now...
More like:BluHorseShu said:F16 these days:Lorne Malvo said:Pumpkinhead said:
Just 48 hours now (at most) of this 'overturn 2020 election' drama, before that POTUS election finally goes into the books and the political world moves on to the next phase of its never ending fighting.
Go ahead and continue to bury your head in the sand since "your guy" won by all means necessary, even breaking the law to do so.
"You guys cheated"
"Uh uh"
"Uh huh"
"Uh uh"
"The future of the Republic is at stake"
"Uh uh"
"Civil War is coming, you won't be laughing long"
"Whatever"
And the needle didn't move, and the only actions taken have been more posting about the same. And unfortunately, whichever way SCOTUS decides, this will be the continued trend, one way or another, for the next 4 years.
F16 these days:
"You guys cheated here are examples"
- Georgia Recount fraud affidavits
Georgia recount may be as corrupt as the election itself
SWORN AFFIDAVITS: Georgia Recount Plagued by Potential Voter Fraud, Ballot Tampering
One Fulton County poll manager, with 20-years of experience
Another observer, this time at the Cobb County Poll Precinct and who identified herself as a Democrat
Georgia recount worker with 20 years of experience handling ballots described an odd batch that stood out.
- Ongoing list of voter fraud
- Other fraud by thomasticthinker lots of evidence
"Nu huh"
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
You may be right, probably are, but that doesn't make it right. There has not been a proper investigation and the laws passed by state legislatures were not followed making this election a complete travesty.Pumpkinhead said:Lorne Malvo said:Pumpkinhead said:
Just 48 hours now (at most) of this 'overturn 2020 election' drama, before that POTUS election finally goes into the books and the political world moves on to the next phase of its never ending fighting.
Go ahead and continue to bury your head in the sand since "your guy" won by all means necessary, even breaking the law to do so.
Not burying my head in sand. Just stating the 2020 election isn't going to get overturned. And just another 48 hours before the EC nail is hammered in.
That is what's going to happen. Now maybe some of this stuff going on will have an impact on how future elections are conducted, but 2020 has about run its course.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Agreed, sometimes Trump should clam up.Faustus said:He's not making it easy for the S.Ct. to rule for him by blasting what they should do if they have great Wisdom and Courage. Just be quiet about the Court (while still going off on the stolen election and fraud), and that way if they decide for you they don't look like they are doing as, err, bidden. The Court wants to avoid the appearance of partiality.will25u said:
Obviously this wasn't meant for the S.Ct. though, but for his audience.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Pinche, I'm no troll, been here many years. And I absolutely believe it. The same way that you and many others can believe in the largest scale conspiracy ever dreamed up involving tens of thousands of people, big tech, cooperation of all big media outlets. and foreign powers and an ever evolving list of other things. All fabricated by a man who has claimed fraud in every election, even the one he won.
BTW, the hypocrisy in the lawsuit instigated by Texas is the best example since our very own governor made changes to election procedures without the legislature.
BTW, the hypocrisy in the lawsuit instigated by Texas is the best example since our very own governor made changes to election procedures without the legislature.
Yes, why yes he can.AggieRain said:You can't honestly believe this, right?FIDO_Ags said:Quote:
I appreciate and enjoy Trump's tweets as much as anybody, but he needs to sit back and leave this one alone. He cannot be perceived as trying to influence the court in any way. Best not to poke that bear and give it a reason to turn on him.
He can't. He made up all of this stuff and now he has to follow the lie that over 50 million people believe to the end. Sad really really because it could have terrifying consequences for the country.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Quote:
You are a troll or so riddled with TDS that you can't have an honest discussion.
Claims Trump will be president come January 21 because "no one can stop what is coming" then calls others trolls riddled with TDS
Pot meets kettle.
Care to tell us your stance on Hunter Biden a month ago?
eric76 said:You might as well do away with elections, then.FireAg said:Excellent question...I don't know...BMX Bandit said:
on the starting a civil war, does that happen only if SCOTUS doesn't take the case or decides Texas doesn't have standing?
or does it still start a civil war if SCOTUS decides Texas has standing, but rules PA, GA, etc. win the case?
At some point, it has to come down to this:
Is there clear evidence of election fraud in this election or not?
If there is, then I argue that ANY fraud proven, no matter how benign it may seem, raises doubt about the election as a whole, and if there is any "proven" fraud, then the whole process in each state where some form of fraud is "prove" needs to be thrown out because it is tainted...
Having arguments about "okay, so there was fraud, but there wasn't enough to change the outcome" is the wrong way to look at this...
Any fraud "proven" means the whole thing is tainted, and the results simply cannot be trusted...
If the court finds enough evidence that some fraud occurred, then they need to step in and tell the state legislatures to take action and appoint their electors...
Now, the final outcome might still be the same...so be it...
But it at least takes the fraud angle out of it and allows the law to be used to resolve the issue constitutionally...
If you don't, and you just leave this dangling in the wind, you are asking for trouble...
It would be surprising if there was no state with fraud that could not be proven.
If a political party expected to lose the election, they could just have someone commit fraud and then they could jump up and down and yell "FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD", have the election thrown out, and go to the state legislature.
No election should be overturned unless the actual amount of fraud is proven to have changed the result of the election.
Yeah, if your "election" includes vote by mail. It deserves to be trashed. 45% of the country feels this way, and you rather ignore them.
Setting up for a hot civil war.
I probably could have believed that a political party would sell it's entire soul to try to overturn an election if you'd told me. But I would said you were full of **** if you'd said it would be for Donald Trump. It doesn't even sound plausible and it's happening as we speak. It's like America has a brain parasite.
schmendeler said:
I probably could have believed that a political party would sell it's entire soul to try to overturn an election if you'd told me. But I would said you were full of **** if you'd said it would be for Donald Trump. It doesn't even sound plausible and it's happening as we speak. It's like America has a brain parasite.
I'm so glad to hear that you thought what the Democrats were doing the past 4 years to the 2016 election was abhorrent. Good for you.
Pumpkinhead said:Lorne Malvo said:Pumpkinhead said:
Just 48 hours now (at most) of this 'overturn 2020 election' drama, before that POTUS election finally goes into the books and the political world moves on to the next phase of its never ending fighting.
Go ahead and continue to bury your head in the sand since "your guy" won by all means necessary, even breaking the law to do so.
Not burying my head in sand. Just stating the 2020 election isn't going to get overturned. And just another 48 hours before the EC nail is hammered in.
That is what's going to happen. Now maybe some of this stuff going on will have an impact on how future elections are conducted, but 2020 has about run its course.
And that is what makes this entire battle worth it. If dems can ignore election laws with impunity, democracy is dead.
Win At Life said:
The number of states joining this, makes it that much more credible and unconscionable for the SC to refused to hear the case.
Adding more poo to the pile doesn't improve the smell. This is going down in flames.
Religion is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world - Bertrand Russell
schmendeler said:
I probably could have believed that a political party would sell it's entire soul to try to overturn an election if you'd told me. But I would said you were full of **** if you'd said it would be for Donald Trump. It doesn't even sound plausible and it's happening as we speak. It's like America has a brain parasite.
Yeah, because another political party is shoving absolutely trash level voting laws and rules down the throats of Americans and eroding trust in the system.
Cry more. Its your own fault.
Burning poo leaves an awful smell.mesocosm said:Win At Life said:
The number of states joining this, makes it that much more credible and unconscionable for the SC to refused to hear the case.
Adding more poo to the pile doesn't improve the smell. This is going down in flames.
So does stealing an election.
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