When We the People have no standing,

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Ag87H2O said:

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Rapier108 said:

The 2nd Amendment is the Constitution's Doomsday Provision.
I'm just about to the point where I'm ready to put a hold on the electoral college and let the military sort it out. Not sure I trust anyone else at the federal level to give it an honest assessment and adjudication.
And we complain about Venezuela intervening in this election eh?

Maybe we just install Trump as King, that should do it
The cheating Democrats through this sham election have turned the country into Venezuela.

Don't want a king, just a fair election where only legal votes are counted.
Exactly...... all these dunderheads that are complicit and looking the other way with all the obvious tampering and blatant actions that, definitively took place are the ones that apparently want a King. Multitudes of actions shown and proven took place completely out in the open. None of which has any other plausable reason for happening other than to commit illegal or fraudulant activites. Those actions are certainly the type of actions choreographed by a wannabe dictatorial ruling class, you know, like a King so go ahead support them that should do it !

The current Dem Party along with the Leftist and Global elistist establishment behind them are the ones blatantly acting like Kings and working toward being just that. The fact all these libs on here are whistling a merry tune, poking fun at those fighting it and working to expose it shows how utterly blind and indoctrinated they are.

It's seriously laughable and sad all at the same time, especially considering the audicity and intellectual disingenousness it takes to claim others want Trump or he wants to be installed as a King. Totally and completely blind while the exact reverse of that is what is actually taking place and it is them in total support of the party carrying it out.

Dance ya goofy bunch of monkeys. Dance for your soon to be ruling class you love so dearly...... the corrupt, pompous, power mongering, wannabe lords over eveyone your Dem Party.
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And yet you persist. I don't need Trump or his minions to tell me what my own intellect and logical reasoning already deducted the moment they stopped counting in those Liberal counties.

You ignore the most obvious answer with thousands of affidavits and the actual events before and on Election Day so clearly you do not have the integrity required to put Country ahead of Politics. Therefore you sir should be considered a complete lost cause to truth and justice.

You may have hated Trump and that's fine, but you and yours who are "ok" with all of the "nothing to see" irregularities are far worse than Trump ever was. To be honest, I despise you and your kind where the end justifies the means. It is a sickness that is leading this country to its inescapable end. Then again, you may just be a CCP mole and that's exactly what you desire.

This will be my last response ever to anything you post. I don't waste time on leftists who can't think for themselves.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MagnumLoad said:

the Constitutional Republic is over. Election laws were broken with impunity.
What proof do you have that the 2016 was on the up and up? Why didn't the GOP make sure that the election was fair? If it was, why didn't the Dems cheat then?
Because they thought it was in the bag and they didn't need to cheat. This time, they knew better.
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Why am I here? said:

First of all - you have no dog in this fight. You are not a Conservative if that's how you feel about Trump.

And secondly, your opinion is ridiculous. The whole point of "elected" officials is to represent the will of their constituents. They stopped honoring that job in 1800's. It's just taking this long for a-hole countries like China to figure out and build the wealth necessary to properly exploit it.

And I will say this on the election: anyone who thinks Biden "won" that election on purely "legal" votes is either incredibly stupid or incredibly corrupt or very naive.

You don't have mass mail in ballots with NO signature verification, you don't stop counting in the late evening when your guy is getting trounced, you don't kick out poll watchers, you don't fight "audits" of the ballots UNLESS you have massive cheating!!!

If it were an honest election, then these states would all be for transparency and audits. Where are we seeing any of that today in those LIberal hell holes of Detroit, Philly, Atlanta, and Milwaukee? That's right - you ain't seeing it.

So go troll on someone else. Bye!

Well your opinion is ridiculous. It's not based in fact but rather feelings. You're so angry Trump didn't win that you're clinging to any and every claim of fraud. Trump knows this about his base which is why he keeps spoon feeding the conspiracy to you.
Go troll elsewhere
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NOT BASED ON FACTS????

Bwahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


How old are you? 12?


I just gave a LIST OF FACTS, but will repeat them and add some more:

1. Poll watchers kicked out (and in some places cheered on the way out by Liberal CHEATERS)
2. Windows covered with paper or cardboard so no one could observe the ballot counting.
3. Mass mailing whether requested or not to ALL voters on states' voter roles - dead people, felons, non-current resident of said state, etc.
4. Signature verification: Set at 40% match on machines in Nevada (fact), not required in Georgia (fact),
5. Ballots separated from signature envelopes so no audit or verification is possible after the Election (FACT)
6. Vote totals going "down" in the middle of the night for Trump instead of continuing to increase. (FACT)
7. Dead people voting in multiple battleground states (FACT - and one that happens every Presidential election and needs to end permanently).
8. Fulton County sending folks home then pulling out ballots from under a table thinking no one was watching. PS> Even if, as some want to claim, it was legitimate ballots, you DON'T count them without both parties PRESENT for the counting!!! FACT!!!!
9. Dominion Software is NOT SECURE (FACT - read the SOS for Texas on the State's refusal to allow Dominion to be used in Texas).
10. To believe Biden collected over 80 million legally cast ballots, you would have to believe that Biden is more than 11 million votes MORE POPULAR than Obama was in 2008!!! Now, that just defies every bit of logic left in anyone's tiny little brains.....FACT!!! (This last one is a fact, but also an editorial conclusion!)

So, now what do you have to say for yourself? I would imagine it is something like this:

"Wah, wah, you hurt my feelings. You know Biden won over 80 million votes and is more well liked than Obama ever was! He is the best President ever. Wah, wah, wah".

If ever there was a case for Liberals IGNORING facts to protect their feelings about Biden beating Trump, because of their SEVERE CASE of TDS this is definitely IT!!!!! Mantra: "Ends justify means" (put blinders over eyes and insert fingers in ears). Thus, ends our Republic.

Go EDUCATE YOURSELF> Do not use CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter, or other MSM sources. Challenge yourself to learn things on your own. Challenge what your Leftist Party FEEDS YOU. THINK ABOUT THEIR MOTIVATIONS!!! Read articles looking for the FACTS versus the author's OPINIONS. You may be AMAZED at the enlightenment and the freedom that comes with opening your eyes!!!
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Martin Cash said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MagnumLoad said:

the Constitutional Republic is over. Election laws were broken with impunity.
What proof do you have that the 2016 was on the up and up? Why didn't the GOP make sure that the election was fair? If it was, why didn't the Dems cheat then?
Because they thought it was in the bag and they didn't need to cheat. This time, they knew better.


So why not 2004? 2000?

And why haven't Dems found a way to do this nationally? Since 1995, the GOP has dominated elections nationally for the most part but this is the election Dems decided to cheat on. Give me a ducking break. Elections have consequences and your boy lost. Regroup and run a better candidate next time.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Martin Cash said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MagnumLoad said:

the Constitutional Republic is over. Election laws were broken with impunity.
What proof do you have that the 2016 was on the up and up? Why didn't the GOP make sure that the election was fair? If it was, why didn't the Dems cheat then?
Because they thought it was in the bag and they didn't need to cheat. This time, they knew better.


So why not 2004? 2000?

And why haven't Dems found a way to do this nationally? Since 1995, the GOP has dominated elections nationally for the most part but this is the election Dems decided to cheat on. Give me a ducking break. Elections have consequences and your boy lost. Regroup and run a better candidate next time.
He won more votes than any R or incumbent in history. If by "better campaign" you mean forging more mail in votes to get greater numbers than Obama in 2008 then maybe he should. That seems to be the only way to win elections now.
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Gigem314 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Martin Cash said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MagnumLoad said:

the Constitutional Republic is over. Election laws were broken with impunity.
What proof do you have that the 2016 was on the up and up? Why didn't the GOP make sure that the election was fair? If it was, why didn't the Dems cheat then?
Because they thought it was in the bag and they didn't need to cheat. This time, they knew better.


So why not 2004? 2000?

And why haven't Dems found a way to do this nationally? Since 1995, the GOP has dominated elections nationally for the most part but this is the election Dems decided to cheat on. Give me a ducking break. Elections have consequences and your boy lost. Regroup and run a better candidate next time.
He won more votes than any R or incumbent in history. If by "better campaign" you mean forging more mail in votes to get greater numbers than Obama in 2008 then maybe he should. That seems to be the only way to win elections now.


That's absurd but stick with that narrative and get the national divorce you've been hoping forz
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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BluHorseShu said:

Why am I here? said:

First of all - you have no dog in this fight. You are not a Conservative if that's how you feel about Trump.

And secondly, your opinion is ridiculous. The whole point of "elected" officials is to represent the will of their constituents. They stopped honoring that job in 1800's. It's just taking this long for a-hole countries like China to figure out and build the wealth necessary to properly exploit it.

And I will say this on the election: anyone who thinks Biden "won" that election on purely "legal" votes is either incredibly stupid or incredibly corrupt or very naive.

You don't have mass mail in ballots with NO signature verification, you don't stop counting in the late evening when your guy is getting trounced, you don't kick out poll watchers, you don't fight "audits" of the ballots UNLESS you have massive cheating!!!

If it were an honest election, then these states would all be for transparency and audits. Where are we seeing any of that today in those LIberal hell holes of Detroit, Philly, Atlanta, and Milwaukee? That's right - you ain't seeing it.

So go troll on someone else. Bye!

Well your opinion is ridiculous. It's not based in fact but rather feelings. You're so angry Trump didn't win that you're clinging to any and every claim of fraud. Trump knows this about his base which is why he keeps spoon feeding the conspiracy to you.
Go troll elsewhere

This is the one thing I find so annoying about Liberals and Democrats in general. They are all over the fricking internet telling us how stupid we are and how we believe everything Trump says and we are a cult

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.

You are the people spoon fed a bunch of BS by 95% of the media and you never fricking question any of it. You don't ever question the major radical lunatics in your own party even when they are out taking away other peoples freedoms, destroying people's businesses, committing violence on innocent old people and women and children, rioting, and burning cities.

Major major fraud just occurred in this country like never seen in our history...It's just hunky dory for the DEMs as long as your guy won...You don't give a crap about your vote meaning anything in the future I guess...So just F' off back to watching CNN and get your daily dose of Communism...
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So the dems cheated and we're mad at the republicans?

Gotcha.
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pagerman @ work said:

So the dems cheated and we're mad at the republicans?

Gotcha.


Many are just the same. They don't care.
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How many State Legislatures under GOP control did NOTHING to stop any of this before, during, and after the election????

Yep - ZERO.

They had the majority and hid like a 4 yr old in a thunderstorm. Don't need cowards representing us. So, yeah, I'm mad at the GOP for being wusses. But, I also have enough anger to DESPISE Liberals for having no ethical or moral compass whatsoever.

Plenty of anger to go around. But, think about it. Conservative working people have to go to work to provide for their families. We VOTE for other Conservatives to represent our interests. THEY FAILED TO DO SO. So, yeah, I'm stinking angry.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Gigem314 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Martin Cash said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MagnumLoad said:

the Constitutional Republic is over. Election laws were broken with impunity.
What proof do you have that the 2016 was on the up and up? Why didn't the GOP make sure that the election was fair? If it was, why didn't the Dems cheat then?
Because they thought it was in the bag and they didn't need to cheat. This time, they knew better.


So why not 2004? 2000?

And why haven't Dems found a way to do this nationally? Since 1995, the GOP has dominated elections nationally for the most part but this is the election Dems decided to cheat on. Give me a ducking break. Elections have consequences and your boy lost. Regroup and run a better candidate next time.
He won more votes than any R or incumbent in history. If by "better campaign" you mean forging more mail in votes to get greater numbers than Obama in 2008 then maybe he should. That seems to be the only way to win elections now.


That's absurd but stick with that narrative and get the national divorce you've been hoping forz
Maybe you should divorce yourself from this forum. What a moronic take.
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pagerman @ work said:

So the dems cheated and we're mad at the republicans?

Gotcha.
Wrong....... you get nothing but; what's new you only know how to spew regurgitated S*** ! Continue wading in that and be sure as it gets chin level to not make waves, like the good little sheep you are.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Gigem314 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Martin Cash said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

MagnumLoad said:

the Constitutional Republic is over. Election laws were broken with impunity.
What proof do you have that the 2016 was on the up and up? Why didn't the GOP make sure that the election was fair? If it was, why didn't the Dems cheat then?
Because they thought it was in the bag and they didn't need to cheat. This time, they knew better.


So why not 2004? 2000?

And why haven't Dems found a way to do this nationally? Since 1995, the GOP has dominated elections nationally for the most part but this is the election Dems decided to cheat on. Give me a ducking break. Elections have consequences and your boy lost. Regroup and run a better candidate next time.
He won more votes than any R or incumbent in history. If by "better campaign" you mean forging more mail in votes to get greater numbers than Obama in 2008 then maybe he should. That seems to be the only way to win elections now.


That's absurd but stick with that narrative and get the national divorce you've been hoping forz
The party of government handouts will file for divorce.

Thank you for the laugh.
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aggiez03 said:

As a life long Republican, I laugh at the GOP at this point.

They have done nothing.

Talk about not knowing your base. I will never vote for an incumbent against sans Ted Cruz and he is not untouchable at this point.

We conservatives need to primary every single R in Texas till they are all gone.

Or is it time to start a new party? The GOP thinks we are going back to the way things were...


I think the GOP is just as corrupt as the Dems .. too many politicians who are on the take or have been compromised, these people are voting for and installing laws and regulations that benefit their handlers .. it so very obvious

If we don't fix the voter fraud issues it will never get better. And that means dealing with the bad GOP members too
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ApachePilot said:

I feel like the last 20 years especially has been a case study on corporations and politicians selling out their own country. Greed. Power. Lack of character. The hallmarks to the people pushing this country off a cliff. We all go about our lives and trust our fellow Americans love this country and what's best for its' future. Truth is they don't care. We are a nation under God that has forsaken God. I'm depressed to see crimes committed by the ruling class and it just get washed away. I felt Trump for all his faults truly loved America and wanted us to ALL succeed. He fought the system that has grown sick and corrupt. I fear most Americans don't care or don't understand what is happening. So long as they have their iPhones and reality tv shows.
Its a very distant example, but this feels just like the total lack of national feeling and loyalty by the ruling class that in 1071 put the Byzantine Empire in a fatal spot after the Battle of Manzikert. So intent were they on undermining the Emperor at the time and internal political intrigue that they let the Turks conquer most of wealthy and productive Asia Minor, even though the Turks had been ready to withdraw. They threw away the gains negotiated.

We will be doing well to even recover to the degree they did after a thorough purging of the corrupt.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Newspaper company and their employees need to be shamed and harassed the same way Ted Cruz and Separately Sarah Hucklebee.

Politicians are protected but man oh man are newspaper company's vulnerable.
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i feel truly sorry for you
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Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
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ApachePilot,


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I feel like the last 20 years especially has been a case study on corporations and politicians selling out their own country. Greed. Power. Lack of character.
Watch this opening for a very good proof of what you are talking about. It explains what is happening right now succinctly. Though of your post the moment saw the monologue a while ago.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3163920
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trump's team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this?

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election..

I swear the DOJ and FBI had better pray Trump does not somehow pull this off. If I was him, I would put them under the control of the military (Department of Defense) the first day back in office, and I would appoint the most brutal mofo I could find in the military to run that department and tell that person to hang all the traitors he/ she can find in the FBI and DOJ. I would make their lives a living hell for the next 4 years straight.. Maybe Flynn would be a good candidate for that job. I bet he has a few bones to pick with the FBI and DOJ, and he probably knows a lot of them that are crooked.
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Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trumps team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this.

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election.


Trump had 4 years to clean up even a portion of the FBI. From your description, it is more corrupt than ever. Sounds like a pretty incompetent leader.
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BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trumps team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this.

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election.


Trump had 4 years to clean up even a portion of the FBI. From your description, it is more corrupt than ever. Sounds like a pretty incompetent leader.
Well you DEMs just voted in the person who used the FBI as part of their deep state operation to spy on Trump, so back at you.. By the way, where's Hunter these days? Probably partying it up since his laptop is no longer an issue...That is it won't be an issue unless you think Joe Biden is going to clean up the FBI?
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Why am I here? said:

How many State Legislatures under GOP control did NOTHING to stop any of this before, during, and after the election????

Yep - ZERO.

They had the majority and hid like a 4 yr old in a thunderstorm. Don't need cowards representing us. So, yeah, I'm mad at the GOP for being wusses. But, I also have enough anger to DESPISE Liberals for having no ethical or moral compass whatsoever.

Plenty of anger to go around. But, think about it. Conservative working people have to go to work to provide for their families. We VOTE for other Conservatives to represent our interests. THEY FAILED TO DO SO. So, yeah, I'm stinking angry.
If you are a Conservative, why would you even want a radical like Trump as President?
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Ramdiesel said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trumps team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this.

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election.


Trump had 4 years to clean up even a portion of the FBI. From your description, it is more corrupt than ever. Sounds like a pretty incompetent leader.
Well you DEMs just voted in the person who used the FBI as part of their deep state operation to spy on Trump, so back at you.. By the way, where's Hunter these days? Probably partying it up since his laptop is no longer an issue...That is it won't be an issue unless you think Joe Biden is going to clean up the FBI?



Voted for Trump. Just roll my eyes at all the deep staters. You guys make Trump sound like the most incompetent man ever to be in office.

4 years and his whole Cabinet were evil RINO plants, his generals were political animals and Dems, the FBI and CIA were deep state spies, any liberal policies or spending weren't Trump's fault, etc.

He has the power to choose his own Cabinet, generals, FBI and CIA leadership and sign bills into law. And yet the deep state and government grew bigger under his leadership? What the hell was he doing?!
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Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trump's team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this?

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election..

I swear the DOJ and FBI had better pray Trump does not somehow pull this off. If I was him, I would put them under the control of the military (Department of Defense) the first day back in office, and I would appoint the most brutal mofo I could find in the military to run that department and tell that person to hang all the traitors he/ she can find in the FBI and DOJ. I would make their lives a living hell for the next 4 years straight..

Put the DOJ and the FBI under the DOD? Are you trying to out-radical Trump?
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BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trumps team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this.

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election.


Trump had 4 years to clean up even a portion of the FBI. From your description, it is more corrupt than ever. Sounds like a pretty incompetent leader.
Well you DEMs just voted in the person who used the FBI as part of their deep state operation to spy on Trump, so back at you.. By the way, where's Hunter these days? Probably partying it up since his laptop is no longer an issue...That is it won't be an issue unless you think Joe Biden is going to clean up the FBI?



Voted for Trump. Just roll my eyes at all the deep staters. You guys make Trump sound like the most incompetent man ever to be in office.

4 years and his whole Cabinet were evil RINO plants, his generals were political animals and Dems, the FBI and CIA were deep state spies, any liberal policies or spending weren't Trump's fault, etc.

He has the power to choose his own Cabinet, generals, FBI and CIA leadership and sign bills into law. And yet the deep state and government grew bigger under his leadership? What the hell was he doing?!
I agree, he appointed a lot of the wrong people. He was alone in a sea of swamp creatures, honestly...I think things would have been much different had the FBI not set up Flynn on Day 1. That dude scared the crap out of Obama and the Deep State..So much so that Obama made a point to tell Trump he was dangerous and could not be trusted before he left office. He might have gave Trump some really good advice on how to clean up the Swamp in DC. Have you ever seen the documentary about Flynn that the Congressman Devon Nunes helped make? Pretty good stuff. Flynn was a war hero, and made many innovations on how the military fought Jihadist/terrorists. I guess Obama didnt like that he was efficient at killing his Muslim brothers...
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TexAgs91 said:

No taxation without representation

Right on! PR and DC for statehood!
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Why am I here? said:

Others beat me to it.

WHERE IS THE GOP???

So all of these a-holes that conservatives voted for the past 6 years have, for the most part, have:

1. SAID NOTHING

2. AND HAVE DONE LESS THAN THEYVE SAID ABOUT ALL OF THIS GARBAGE ELECTION.


We can get mad at Liberals all we want, but in truth, the lack of attack by the GOP establishment elected by US needs to be thrown the h*ll out and vote for people who are willing to FIGHT for this country and the LAWS of this country.

We've turned this place into a two-bit, nationwide, Judge Roy Bean outfit running everything on the whims of China, social media, and the corrupt MSM.

Our country is really on the verge of a collapse and most people just stick their heads in the sand (or their stupid electronics) and hope it all just goes away.

Guess what. It will go away. And when it does it will take everything you have left in this world. I'm moving my family to a corrupt third world country where the corruption costs me less than here!!! If I'm gonna get screwed I would rather do it on a 20:1 exchange rate!!!!!



So there's no possibility that Trump supporters have been duped by a narcissist who won't accept defeat and a bunch of grifters who want his money? Okay ...
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Ramdiesel said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trumps team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this.

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election.


Trump had 4 years to clean up even a portion of the FBI. From your description, it is more corrupt than ever. Sounds like a pretty incompetent leader.
Well you DEMs just voted in the person who used the FBI as part of their deep state operation to spy on Trump, so back at you.. By the way, where's Hunter these days? Probably partying it up since his laptop is no longer an issue...That is it won't be an issue unless you think Joe Biden is going to clean up the FBI?



Voted for Trump. Just roll my eyes at all the deep staters. You guys make Trump sound like the most incompetent man ever to be in office.

4 years and his whole Cabinet were evil RINO plants, his generals were political animals and Dems, the FBI and CIA were deep state spies, any liberal policies or spending weren't Trump's fault, etc.

He has the power to choose his own Cabinet, generals, FBI and CIA leadership and sign bills into law. And yet the deep state and government grew bigger under his leadership? What the hell was he doing?!
I agree, he appointed a lot of the wrong people. He was alone in a sea of swamp creatures, honestly...I think things would have been much different had the FBI not set up Flynn on Day 1. That dude scared the crap out of Obama and the Deep State..So much so that Obama made a point to tell Trump he was dangerous and could not be trusted before he left office. He might have gave Trump some really good advice on how to clean up the Swamp in DC. Have you ever seen the documentary about Flynn that the Congressman Devon Nunes helped make? Pretty good stuff. Flynn was a war hero, and made many innovations on how the military fought Jihadist/terrorists. I guess Obama didnt like that he was efficient at killing his Muslim brothers...


Maybe it wasn't the best idea to have an "outsider" in the White House. For all his talk about fighting the swamp, he had absolutely no idea how to fight them and hired mostly swamp people into his administration.

Only hope we can come up with a better option in 2024. At the end of the day, Trump didn't enact any meaningful change (just like Obama). Nearly all of his actions were by executive order, his tax cuts expire for individuals and no other meaningful legislation was completed.
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Why am I here? said:

NOT BASED ON FACTS????

Bwahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


How old are you? 12?


I just gave a LIST OF FACTS, but will repeat them and add some more:

1. Poll watchers kicked out (and in some places cheered on the way out by Liberal CHEATERS)
2. Windows covered with paper or cardboard so no one could observe the ballot counting.
3. Mass mailing whether requested or not to ALL voters on states' voter roles - dead people, felons, non-current resident of said state, etc.
4. Signature verification: Set at 40% match on machines in Nevada (fact), not required in Georgia (fact),
5. Ballots separated from signature envelopes so no audit or verification is possible after the Election (FACT)
6. Vote totals going "down" in the middle of the night for Trump instead of continuing to increase. (FACT)
7. Dead people voting in multiple battleground states (FACT - and one that happens every Presidential election and needs to end permanently).
8. Fulton County sending folks home then pulling out ballots from under a table thinking no one was watching. PS> Even if, as some want to claim, it was legitimate ballots, you DON'T count them without both parties PRESENT for the counting!!! FACT!!!!
9. Dominion Software is NOT SECURE (FACT - read the SOS for Texas on the State's refusal to allow Dominion to be used in Texas).
10. To believe Biden collected over 80 million legally cast ballots, you would have to believe that Biden is more than 11 million votes MORE POPULAR than Obama was in 2008!!! Now, that just defies every bit of logic left in anyone's tiny little brains.....FACT!!! (This last one is a fact, but also an editorial conclusion!)

So, now what do you have to say for yourself? I would imagine it is something like this:

"Wah, wah, you hurt my feelings. You know Biden won over 80 million votes and is more well liked than Obama ever was! He is the best President ever. Wah, wah, wah".

If ever there was a case for Liberals IGNORING facts to protect their feelings about Biden beating Trump, because of their SEVERE CASE of TDS this is definitely IT!!!!! Mantra: "Ends justify means" (put blinders over eyes and insert fingers in ears). Thus, ends our Republic.

Go EDUCATE YOURSELF> Do not use CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter, or other MSM sources. Challenge yourself to learn things on your own. Challenge what your Leftist Party FEEDS YOU. THINK ABOUT THEIR MOTIVATIONS!!! Read articles looking for the FACTS versus the author's OPINIONS. You may be AMAZED at the enlightenment and the freedom that comes with opening your eyes!!!

Wow...I guess if those are the "facts" that you're using to bolster your fanaticism, I guess I'll just wish you the best of luck in life.
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Ramdiesel said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Ramdiesel said:

Old McDonald said:

Ramdiesel said:

The difference between us and you dip****s is we will actually question the government, the media, and even people in our own parties actions..You see it even on this thread, but you still look at us as some kind of mindless minion Trump followers.
then perhaps you ought to start questioning why these claims of fraud aren't being brought to court, and when they are why they're getting laughed out of the room across the board. surely if the election was stolen from mr. trump there would be some recourse available through the courts. unless you think the entire us judicial system is out to get him too.
In order to have evidence, there has to be an actual investigation...Do you think the FBI that spied on Trumps campaign and did everything they could to help bring him down will now seriously investigate election fraud for him? The FBI hasn't done crap in years; except, protect their deep state masters...

Any fricking fraud investigator in the real world outside DC could look at just the numbers alone in this election, the statistical anomolies and irregularities, and tell you there needs to be an investigation into fraud...Where's the investigation? The only real help Trump's team has gotten at this point is the court in Michigan allowing them to Audit the Dominion machines in Michigan where there were counting irregularities...Again, why wasnt this already investigated by the FBI? Why does Trumps team have to hire outside contractors to investigste this when our tax money pays the DOJ and FBI to investigate crap like this.

Maybe you and I both should question why the FBI is getting paid by our tax money and doing nothing to investigate irregularities, videos that appear to show fraud in Georgia and Nevada, and thousands of affidavits claiming fraud in a Presidential election.


Trump had 4 years to clean up even a portion of the FBI. From your description, it is more corrupt than ever. Sounds like a pretty incompetent leader.
Well you DEMs just voted in the person who used the FBI as part of their deep state operation to spy on Trump, so back at you.. By the way, where's Hunter these days? Probably partying it up since his laptop is no longer an issue...That is it won't be an issue unless you think Joe Biden is going to clean up the FBI?



The deep state. A nebulous "group" that can be blamed for everything that "hurt" Trump but can't actually be found. Just blame it on blue unicorns instead and it's as valid.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Seriously, you can't possibly be that obtuse.

Definition of "fact" - The truth about events as opposed to interpretation.

So in the list of events above ALL are witnessed by the masses as FACTS. They did actually in the REAL world occur. We all saw most of it happening in real time. Now, as far as your lack of intellect to be able to logically follow those facts to their obvious conclusion I can't help you with that. You seem to be under the control of the Leftist puppet masters. Maybe one day someone will cut the strings for you and let you know what true freedom feels like.

And I have to laugh at all of you liberals who believe people who THINK for themselves and don't buy media BS from either party or media outlets are somehow the cult followers or brain-washed. Your hypocrisy is reaching levels even Charles Manson would be jealous of!!!!
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herb96 said:

TexAgs91 said:

No taxation without representation

Right on! PR and DC for statehood!
For one thing, PR doesn't pay federal tax. For another, people from PR and DC can move to anywhere in the US if they want. This is especially trivial for those in DC. They can have representation if they want it.
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