Trump got out voted because he's a jerk. Why is this so hard for you to believe? If there was cheating why did republicans pick up seats? If there was cheating why did Mitch win?
It's super easy to believe because most liberal Democrats believe cheating is justified, if not righteous to get rid of Trump. So if they had the means and opportunity, it happened.GeorgiAg said:
Trump got out voted because he's a jerk. Why is this so hard for you to believe? If there was cheating why did republicans pick up seats? If there was cheating why did Mitch win?
DD88 said:
Instead of giving up, why don't you fight for election reform so that we can ensure the integrity of future elections?
Judges are a very important battle and Trump knocked those out of the park.triplemiller said:
I agree Republicans fought more in the last 4 years with Trump leading the way. The reality is Republicans lost every important battle. Barr failed to arrest a single Democrat with mountains of evidence. ACA wasn't repealed with Republicans total majority.
You have to break away from the binary political arguments. The GOP has selected W Bush, McCain, Romney, and Trump for their presidential nomination...that doesn't piss you off?
Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
Gigem314 said:Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
If your leaders have their way, defund the police, pack the courts, open border, etc will happen. And you will cheer it on.
I voted for what I believed in when I cast my vote for Trump. I don't care about personality.
And I will continue to support those who value freedom and limited govt. Not the worn out collectivist policies you vote for.
No I'm not wrong. Biden wouldn't even answer the question about court packing. He supports it. Kamala certainly supports it because she's literally said so and there's a good chance she could take over at some point.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
If your leaders have their way, defund the police, pack the courts, open border, etc will happen. And you will cheer it on.
I voted for what I believed in when I cast my vote for Trump. I don't care about personality.
And I will continue to support those who value freedom and limited govt. Not the worn out collectivist policies you vote for.
Am I happy to be able to call trump a LOSER, yes. But you are wrong about Biden policy of defund the police, pack the courts, etc.. That's the crazies on the far left, which I could no more vote for than I could vote for trump.
Gigem314 said:No I'm not wrong. Biden wouldn't even answer the question about court packing. He supports it. Kamala certainly supports it because she's literally said so and there's a good chance she could take over at some point.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
If your leaders have their way, defund the police, pack the courts, open border, etc will happen. And you will cheer it on.
I voted for what I believed in when I cast my vote for Trump. I don't care about personality.
And I will continue to support those who value freedom and limited govt. Not the worn out collectivist policies you vote for.
Am I happy to be able to call trump a LOSER, yes. But you are wrong about Biden policy of defund the police, pack the courts, etc.. That's the crazies on the far left, which I could no more vote for than I could vote for trump.
That's what you voted for. Why are you afraid to own it? Because someone might ask you to back up your reasons?
The Dems love voters like you because you still think they're moderate. They've fooled you. Big time.
Fenrir said:
You voted for the crazy, there is no respectful disagreement to be had.
On that subject, it doesn't matter whether the court gets packed or any of those polices come to be...hopefully a Republican Senate will ensure they don't. What matters is the people you vote for support it...or at the very least won't condemn in when questioned on it. To me that either shows sinister motive, weakness, incompetence, or all of the above. Either way, that's not something I can support...and I am thankful we had at least a 4 year reprieve from them pushing more of it.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:No I'm not wrong. Biden wouldn't even answer the question about court packing. He supports it. Kamala certainly supports it because she's literally said so and there's a good chance she could take over at some point.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
If your leaders have their way, defund the police, pack the courts, open border, etc will happen. And you will cheer it on.
I voted for what I believed in when I cast my vote for Trump. I don't care about personality.
And I will continue to support those who value freedom and limited govt. Not the worn out collectivist policies you vote for.
Am I happy to be able to call trump a LOSER, yes. But you are wrong about Biden policy of defund the police, pack the courts, etc.. That's the crazies on the far left, which I could no more vote for than I could vote for trump.
That's what you voted for. Why are you afraid to own it? Because someone might ask you to back up your reasons?
The Dems love voters like you because you still think they're moderate. They've fooled you. Big time.
Well we will just have to respectfully disagree and time will show who is right. If the courts get packed, if we defund the police, etc.. or not. I own my vote. I assume you own your vote for trump. Thats one of the things that makes us the greatest country in the world. We can fire Biden in four years just like we fired Trump.
Gigem314 said:On that subject, it doesn't matter whether the court gets packed or any of those polices come to be...hopefully a Republican Senate will ensure they don't. What matters is the people you vote for support it...or at the very least won't condemn in when questioned on it. To me that either shows sinister motive, weakness, incompetence, or all of the above. Either way, that's not something I can support...and I am thankful we had at least a 4 year reprieve from them pushing more of it.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:No I'm not wrong. Biden wouldn't even answer the question about court packing. He supports it. Kamala certainly supports it because she's literally said so and there's a good chance she could take over at some point.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
If your leaders have their way, defund the police, pack the courts, open border, etc will happen. And you will cheer it on.
I voted for what I believed in when I cast my vote for Trump. I don't care about personality.
And I will continue to support those who value freedom and limited govt. Not the worn out collectivist policies you vote for.
Am I happy to be able to call trump a LOSER, yes. But you are wrong about Biden policy of defund the police, pack the courts, etc.. That's the crazies on the far left, which I could no more vote for than I could vote for trump.
That's what you voted for. Why are you afraid to own it? Because someone might ask you to back up your reasons?
The Dems love voters like you because you still think they're moderate. They've fooled you. Big time.
Well we will just have to respectfully disagree and time will show who is right. If the courts get packed, if we defund the police, etc.. or not. I own my vote. I assume you own your vote for trump. Thats one of the things that makes us the greatest country in the world. We can fire Biden in four years just like we fired Trump.
You're deflecting, I never suggested that. My point was that the people you vote to support want the policies you describe as simply "crazies on the far left". If those are your beliefs, so be it. But it seems to me you think the democrat party is far more moderate than what its stated desires are. You just don't want to accept it. Simply an observation.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:On that subject, it doesn't matter whether the court gets packed or any of those polices come to be...hopefully a Republican Senate will ensure they don't. What matters is the people you vote for support it...or at the very least won't condemn in when questioned on it. To me that either shows sinister motive, weakness, incompetence, or all of the above. Either way, that's not something I can support...and I am thankful we had at least a 4 year reprieve from them pushing more of it.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:No I'm not wrong. Biden wouldn't even answer the question about court packing. He supports it. Kamala certainly supports it because she's literally said so and there's a good chance she could take over at some point.Ags77 said:Gigem314 said:Says the person who supported Biden and lets everyone on this board know it.Ags77 said:
Good Lord. So many quitters on this thread. You sound just like the fools saying Russia Russia and he's not my President. In fact you sound WORSE because you want to quit on the future of our country.
The country REJECTED defund the police, pack the courts, Medicare for all, etc... We also FIRED trump.
Was there fraud in this election ? Of course. There is fraud in EVERY election from city council up. With mail in ballots , there was more than usual, I'm sure. But not 7 million votes fraud.
Its NOT time to quit. It's time to vote for what you believe in and maybe more now than ever.
If your leaders have their way, defund the police, pack the courts, open border, etc will happen. And you will cheer it on.
I voted for what I believed in when I cast my vote for Trump. I don't care about personality.
And I will continue to support those who value freedom and limited govt. Not the worn out collectivist policies you vote for.
Am I happy to be able to call trump a LOSER, yes. But you are wrong about Biden policy of defund the police, pack the courts, etc.. That's the crazies on the far left, which I could no more vote for than I could vote for trump.
That's what you voted for. Why are you afraid to own it? Because someone might ask you to back up your reasons?
The Dems love voters like you because you still think they're moderate. They've fooled you. Big time.
Well we will just have to respectfully disagree and time will show who is right. If the courts get packed, if we defund the police, etc.. or not. I own my vote. I assume you own your vote for trump. Thats one of the things that makes us the greatest country in the world. We can fire Biden in four years just like we fired Trump.
I never asked you to support it, lol. My original point was to NOT QUIT. Keep voting your beliefs.
Diyala Nick said:
I can't stand Trump, I didn't vote for him, and I think these allegations of election theft are obviously hot air.
All that said, you forum 16 people that completely disagree with me on almost everything need to continue to participate in our democracy. Your continued participation (and mine) is a hell of a lot more important than our personal stance on issues or elected officials.
Understand the sentiment, but this is EXACTLY what they want -- conservatives getting so frustrated by the process that they don't bother anymore, making cheating virtually unnecessary.Texas_Aggie_12 said:
If the election stands as is, I don't know if I'll ever vote again. The blatant cheating and election rigging this year has ruined any shred of fairness that our elections seemed to have. What is the purpose of voting if the outcome is already all but decided? I don't think anyone overseas is fighting for our right to vote in unfair elections, nor do I feel it is my civic duty to leave work in order to cast a meaningless vote. Am I wrong for not feeling the need to vote again if we cannot guarantee a fair election?
TxAgPreacher said:
Republicans never do anything even when they have the presidency and both chambers. Time to face the facts. Voting doesn't work. Republicans care more about getting re elected than doing what they were sent there to do. Even if we can overcome the cheating, voting won't fix our country's problems.
Our battle is a spiritual battle. I pray it won't become a physical one, but we must fight one way or another. Pretending that we will get them next election is foolhardy.
I don't believe the former, but agree that things should wait on Georgia.unmade bed said:
Just like the left severely underestimated the number of people that would show up to actively vote against Hillary Clinton, I think it's possible some of you are underestimating the people that showed up this time to vote against Donald Trump.
Let's see what happens in Georgia. Obviously if the Dems have figured out a way to cheat they will cheat to win the Senate before we start deciding the voting is pointless/rigged.
unmade bed said:
Just like the left severely underestimated the number of people that would show up to actively vote against Hillary Clinton, I think it's possible some of you are underestimating the people that showed up this time to vote against Donald Trump.
Let's see what happens in Georgia. Obviously if the Dems have figured out a way to cheat they will cheat to win the Senate before we start deciding the voting is pointless/rigged.
That's another reason to wait and see if Senate is stolen. If the Rebulicans hold it - just work, if necessary by massive Left-style protests --- to abolish the present machine voting system before 2022 and get something more reliable. With a the voting system fixed, this new generation would have their chance to get into office.Stumpknocker said:
Here's a good reason to vote. Pendulums swing both ways my dudes...
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/11/26/exclusive-incoming-gop-rep-nicole-malliotakis-anti-socialist-freshman-class-here-to-preserve-america/
BBRex said:
The sad part is that the "stolen election" doesn't exist, but y'all will never be convinced otherwise. Somehow, the FBI, the CIA, the courts, Republican officials in Georgia, tech companies that specialize in voting software and hardware, the military (if they never produce the "missing server"), the Bidens, the Clinton Foundation, Hugo Chavez, China, North Korea, Iran, the media and the Democratic Party all conspired to defeat DJT and thwart the will of the people? Most of the time people on this forum would have turned to Occam's Razor and concluded that this is all a bit much and that the election, for the most part, went on as it should. But too many of you have bought in and will never be satisfied.
I used to ascribe to the notion of a national divorce given our irreconcilable differences and the increasing divergence of thought / principles. That said it's not North vs. South or Coasts vs. Central USA......It's urban vs. rural. Even in Texas, the liberal strongholds are the cities. There is no option for a divorce as has been previously championed by so many. I still plan on voting but I don't think it will matter much.....74Ag1 said:
Time to get a divorce
Peacefully or by force
Dems are lying, corrupt, cheating POSs that will do anything to stay in power!
Plus they kill babies with no remorse.
I would vote and support secession by Texas alone or with other states that have similar interests. Can have different political parties or republican, libertarian-type parties.
No democratic parties would be allowed. Dems would be arrested and deported to New York, California, etc. just get the **** out
Vote that's the only weapon (besides the guns you have) against these POSs
What else do you need to know
GeorgiAg said:
Trump got out voted because he's a jerk. Why is this so hard for you to believe? If there was cheating why did republicans pick up seats? If there was cheating why did Mitch win?