Trump interrupts the Deep State/Swamp - For Profit machine.

All other blames of Rrrrrracist, tweeting, ketchup on steak, 15 year old locker talk, etc is a distraction.

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5 years of propaganda from the leftists.

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This, plus his non-stop twitter garbage.

But I don't care---I vote policy, not person. Government is inefficient, and mostly filled with a self-absorbed collection of power-hungry dorks. Anybody voting to give them more tax dollars than they already get should have their head examined.....or, better yet, start a business and start paying quarterlies.

The same thing that makes him popular with half the voters. He's a big middle finger to the libs, media, Rhinos.

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Trump isnt very likeable.

Saban's not likeable either. But he wins.

Voting for personality over policy is extremely immature.

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It is immature, but you also have to remember that the average IQ is 100 and they act like children.

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There's a major difference between how a person like Saban is not likeable and how Trump is not likeable. Saban at least has a comfortable relationship with the truth

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Right. I know they arent identical. It's just an example, regarding personality.

Saban is an absolute jerk, especially if you challenge him (just want a press conference of his). But he wins.

100% agree - the AZ race is this close because of his own actions and comments.

This is the universal truth.

Do whatever the hell you want, but do it with a smile and sweet words.

I see this at work also, it doesn't matter what you do as long as you don't get mad and say the right things all the time. At home, never get mad or angry at anything. That counts more with the wife than managing the house well and taking the right decisions. In politics, Obama and GW Bush messed up the country but they are "buddies you want to have a beer with". Trump tried to fix the mess and has his own eccentricities so he is Satan because everyone gets offended.
The only leader who does this well is India's Modi. He never gets angry, never tweets stupid things, never taunts anyone. He makes hard decisions and pushes them forward to fix the country ruined by 70 years of mismanagement. His opponents taunt him but he never responds. Never gets riled up.

AustinCountyAg said:

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In a lot of these threads people keep saying Trump lost because of his personality, his attitude, etc....What the hell makes him so unlikeable vs Biden? What has he said, or done that made him impossible to vote for? I honestly don't get it.

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He puts America first. Liberals despise him for it.

It's fairly obvious why he's at least superficially unlikeable.

The better question is why likeability matters to so many voters over and above policy differences that will actually impact their lives.

schwabbin said:

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Same reason the CEO of my employer is unlikeable. You don't get to that level without hurting a few feelings. But you know what, I respect the guy and appreciate how he runs our company because I've made good money and have a great career.

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Imagine the business world if CEOs were elected by popular vote of the employees.

Social media and widely expanding voter turnout turned this election into a popularity contest instead of being a reflection of the consent of an informed electorate.

The betas that are being raised in the country can't handle someone like Trump.

THE MEDIA!

If they reported what he actual does and has accomplished truthfully and unbiased people would like if not love him!

The dude has come closer to achieving peace in the Middle East than any one else in mine or my parent's lifetime.

Again this is all a giant disinformation campaign against the American people

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AustinCountyAg said:

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In a lot of these threads people keep saying Trump lost because of his personality, his attitude, etc....What the hell makes him so unlikeable vs Biden? What has he said, or done that made him impossible to vote for? I honestly don't get it.

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He puts America first. Liberals despise him for it.

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This, and many posts like it, show a lack of understanding how the other side thinks. Much like how in 2016, the left didn't understand the appeal of Trump to the people who elected him.

Not anyone's fault- It's human nature to not understand how someone isn't you doesn't think like you

Someone earlier pointed it out clearly- if Trump had tuned down the rhetoric just a tad, he EASILY would have won re-election in a landslide and there wouldn't be all this worrying about fraud and close votes etc etc

I like him just fine!

I proudly voted for him, but he's a jackass to the nth degree. I and many had thick enough skin to overlook it. However, It's very easy to see how low informed people were easily manipulated by the msm propaganda machine. He made it very easy for them to twist his speech.

That said, I wholeheartedly believe the election is being stolen right in front of our eyes.

I don't even know where to start OP. He was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. He's a habitual liar, and a general sack of crap. He has no character or morals, etc., etc. He's so bad in fact that a dementia ridden Biden beat him. That's how bad. Pathetic.

I like my heroes to be walking vegetables. People who will say anything to get elected. Somebody who's moral compass is like a weather vane in a hurricane. These are the qualities I look for in people I lke and admire. TRUMP HAS NONE OF THESE QUALITIES !!!

Tobias Funke said:

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I voted for him, but if you seriously can't see why he is unlikeable I'm not sure this thread is going to help you. He's a complete ass.

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Exactly this. Yes, I voted for him, but only due to Republican's platform vs the Dems. He's an arrogant ass and a horrible communicator. I actually feel uncomfortable most any time I hear him speak.

I firmly believe there is a level of fraud being committed in this election. I've seen enough "proof" to at least make a case for further investigation (confirmed dead people votes, actual R votes not counted (yet?), etc).

Unfortunately, Trump is incapable of communicating that in a way that doesn't come across as arrogant and whiny. He's also really quick to get lawyers involved, which I don't think sits well with many Americans. Yes, I know lawyers need to get involved, but it's all about perception and communication. "I don't like what happening here, so I'm sueing" comes across as elitist. The message would be received better the Trump campaign took the emotion out of it, presented the facts (as they see it) and explained the illegality of it.

Of course, it also doesn't help when MSM cuts away from his speeches to tell viewers about all the the "false" things Trump just said. MSM's efforts to undercut Trump is equally as infuriating as the fraud taking place.

The Media and the Swamp has run a propaganda campaign since the day he won the Rep nomination.

Well for starters, he lies or seriously exaggerates the truth. He says some of the dumbest things on Twitter or at the podium.

He knew this was an election year, so he should have been focusing on bringing people together, but he did not do that. His supporters would have still supported him and some more centered might have also. After he would have won, he could go back to doing whatever he wanted.

Trump's ego is his own worse enemy. Yes, I voted for him.

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I honestly don't get it either. Is he uncouth sometimes? Yes he is, but he is a business man from New York. What do you honestly expect. He's been playing that game for 50 years and doesn't mess around, or play games.

I watched his rallies and personally found him to be funny and charming much of the time. The people completely adored him.

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I mostly agree with this and I found myself coming around to him more when paying attention more in recent months. I still question his actual business acumen over the 50 years- I mean it is different when your Dad loans you a million dollars to get you started in life.

Still though, the dude is a sloppy, ill-prepared mess of a statesman. He's not a Conservative, but even while "renting the space" he didn't even try to learn how to articulate conservative values, especially in impromptu interviews or debates. He missed many opportunities to combat a stupid lib talking point, whether by a reporter or by Biden in the debates by artfully laying out what a Conservative vision and solution would be.

I 100% agree that the media did him no favors and that the electorate as a whole is uninformed and childish.

But, my gosh, Trump shot himself in the foot so many times it's unreal. You can actually be quite skilled at being firm, yet coming off as diplomatic in your retorts. He was awful at that. I think Cruz is very good at that, but his style and speaking cadence turns people off. Crenshaw is really good at it, but he may be too junior to be the next guy up.

We need a Calvin Coolidge candidate, but I don't know who the heck that would be. I hear people talk of Mitch Daniels, but I don't know enough about him.

Attacks on former staff...e.g. Rex "Dumb as a rock" Tillerson. See John Kelly, HR McMaster, Mattis, etc......Trump has a weird, immature behavior that turned me off early in his term. Completely over the top behavior that would have ended any career in the corporate or military world. That's not being non PC or "strong"...it's being stupid.

Bizarre incidents like "sharpiegate". Multiple accounts of him eschewing reading security briefings.
His penchant for talking in superlatives and never admitting a mistake (you know, being human).

There are many, many more examples. To a percentage of normally GOP voters, it was too much..they either went 3rd party , didn't vote at all for the national election, or decided to take a calculated gamble and vote Democrat for the first time.

Yes, he would fight back which is good. But he was almost always over the top stupid in the way he did it.

1. He gets called a white Supremist.
Response: I'm the least racist person in the world. I did more for black people than Abe Lincoln. Laughably stupid.

2. McCain insults him.
Response: Mccain's not a war hero. Heros don't get shot down.

3. Many cases of him taking personal credit of lots of stuff.
"Only I could have done that" "I did all that". Over the top stupid.

4. The man has never acknowledged a mistake, a failure, or doing anything less than perfect on anything.

5. The stupid nicknames. I thought what he did in the republican primary was abhorrent. Little Marco, Lyin Ted.
Childish. Can't win an argument so attack the other person.

6. He has the thinnest skin of anyone I have ever seen in public life.

All this SCREAMS giant Narcisst.

He's an arrogant *******. I haven't liked him since I read his book on the Art of the Deal, which as I recall spent most of its print in telling you how great and brilliant he is. Then he ran for President against someone who sold our uranium to the Russians, so I voted for him. Now, I think he is the best PTOUS I've seen in my lifetime. Faced America's enemies - foreign and domestic, and there were a lot of them.

I don't understand why most Trump supporters blame the media for how unlikeable he is......there's no media filter on his tweets.

Those tweets come straight from his thumbs, to his iphone keyboard, for the world to see. It's an unfiltered view of his narcissistic, twisted view on leadership and the office of the president.

Good riddance.

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The Media and the Swamp has run a propaganda campaign since the day he won the Rep nomination.

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This! Look at how much Trump was loved before the Republican nomination. If we can't see this we are done as a nation.

Trump is not perfect. But I would have blown my top many times if I had to put up with the krap he gets

If the media had a scrap of dignity and were actually fair with Trump, we would have seen a different demeanor from him the last few years and he would have won in a land slide. Trump is the most pro-America president since Reagan, but the sheep decided they would rather vote for the globalists. I've yet to see one Biden supporter say what policies pushed them to vote for him.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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If the media had a scrap of dignity and were actually fair with Trump, we would have seen a different demeanor from him the last few years and he would have won in a land slide. Trump is the most pro-America president since Reagan, but the sheep decided they would rather vote for the globalists. I've yet to see one Biden supporter say what policies pushed them to vote for him.

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They voted against Trump for the most part. Down ballot republican. Basically saying they'd rather have 4 years of gridlock and liberal virtue signaling than another 4 years of Trump.

AustinCountyAg said:

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In a lot of these threads people keep saying Trump lost because of his personality, his attitude, etc....What the hell makes him so unlikeable vs Biden? What has he said, or done that made him impossible to vote for? I honestly don't get it.

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I'm sure 20 people will come along to immediately try and refute this, but I will speak from the perspective of most democrats. I'm going to reference a very old movie. It's a crappy movie and lots of people won't remember it, but it still helps me make my point here.

There's an old movie called black knight. In one of the scenes, a guy gets his head shoved into a giant steaming pile of horse poop. Trump is the guy whose angry because the guy went into the poop with the side of his head instead of face first so he makes the guy go into the poop again then trump pushes the guys face into it even more with his boots.

During the Trump administration, it wasn't enough to just be successful and accomplish their objective, they always had to go out of there way to " own the libs" and rub it in as much as possible. He made sure to cater to the 41% of this country ( his base) who loved him while alienating the rest as much as he could.

Biden didn't receive the most votes in a presidential election for no reason. People were pissed after enduring 4 years of this.

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There's a major difference between how a person like Saban is not likeable and how Trump is not likeable. Saban at least has a comfortable relationship with the truth

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Right. I know they arent identical. It's just an example, regarding personality.

Saban is an absolute jerk, especially if you challenge him (just want a press conference of his). But he wins.

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Saban is harsh - would hate to work for him or play for him. But his professionalism is intact. He garners respect for his actions across the board.

I have to tell my kids they can't call people ugly names like the president. He's supposed to be our leader.

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I don't understand why most Trump supporters blame the media for how unlikeable he is......there's no media filter on his tweets.

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They don't. We do blame the media for freezing his access and ignoring stories like Biden Jr.'s laptop. They are complicit in covering up his crimes.

MemphisAg1 said:

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Tone matters a lot to some people. I looked past it and focused more on his substance, but his tone often annoyed me. And that's coming from a supporter. He screwed up big time in the first debate; that single event probably moved the needle enough to cost him the election.

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Precisely why lotsa F16ers cannot be taken seriously at all. How many here posted triumphantly afterwards that night Trump had won that debate? If you say you're voting for him or support him ok, I get it. But if you say something like "he won that debate " you lose any and all credibility. That night lost him voters.

Trump is unlikable because:
1) he's rude. This is different from and independent of standing up for yourself. Rather than giving an eloquent, convincing defense of his positions (like Reagan used to do), Trump just calls X person an idiot or dumber than a box of rocks.

2) he habitually promotes conspiracy theories. I remember him retweeting fringe stories on how that Vietnam vet who got his skull cracked at a protest was a secret BLM agitator or something. He did this dozens of times over the last 4 years.

3) he's a narcissist who makes everything about him. This one's persistence in his covid messaging probably killed his reelection. 10M people lost their jobs and were confined to their houses and he wouldn't shut up about himself.

4) his Panglossian style is to inflate and exaggerate literally everything. Optimism is fine, but he pushes it so far that he often sounds like a used car salesman. I don't think #4 would be a big deal in isolation, but on top of 1-3, it's pretty bad.

A lot of people complain about Obama's "Elections have consequences" or Clintons "Deplorables comments.

But then you have Trump who retweets a video saying "The only good democrat is a dead democrat".

If Obama did that y'all would be reaching for your firearm right now. If Obama had said "Antifa, stand down, stand by", you'd be reaching for your rifle. And thats just one example in an ocean of them that you never really saw.

Many call Biden a pedophile based on a few pictures but completely ignore the 20+ women all across the US, who've publicly accused him of sexual assault. He IS a serial sexual assault criminal whether you like it or not

You guys are all pretty smart, been through some stuff, you can sort of tell who a person is within a short while of meeting them and sizing them up. But because Trump is fighting the 'enemy' it's difficult to see him for who he really is.

And I'm not saying it's just republicans, its democrats who fall for that trap too.

He is not unlikable. People love him. He had a #1 tv show. Then get's elected president. Then increases his votes this year across all demos, including record black men, black women, and hispanics, blue collar; And in states no republican could step foot in before him.

The media creates division and polemics, and assigns the blame to him, because he won't sing their tune.

And naive people swallow the opinions the assigned to them by the mass media, social media etc.