Same reason the CEO of my employer is unlikeable. You don't get to that level without hurting a few feelings. But you know what, I respect the guy and appreciate how he runs our company because I've made good money and have a great career.

Tone matters a lot to some people. I looked past it and focused more on his substance, but his tone often annoyed me. And that's coming from a supporter. He screwed up big time in the first debate; that single event probably moved the needle enough to cost him the election.

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Every politician lies. Trump lies constantly about things that don't even matter. (And are easily disproven)

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Basically that. They attack him, and he punches back. And they control the degree of emphasis and spin and repetition.

Add to that a real flaw of Trump's the biggest of all imo: The tendency to disparage people retroactively. This is different from "fighting back". Slamming Acosta when he is being a jackanape is good. But dropping things about people now fired or off the stage, that do not even be seem to be saying much, that is what mean. It has a way of making a division `last' in a way it might not if just moved on past. If they write some piece against you, they are entering "real-time" again, and ok to slam anew if you must. Hope have made this subtle distinction clear, as I think it is something the "feeler" types really notice and are stung by even more than someone doing the equivalent of punching someone who just punched them.

It's the New York tough-talk, for me. CRAZY Joe, STUPID Nancy, CHEATING Democrats. Correct or not, that type of name-calling doesn't play well with moderates. People want the president to have a mannerism like the geriatric adult that he is. Why is that so hard to understand?

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Slamming Acosta when he is being a jackanape is good. But dropping things about people now fired or off the stage, that do not even be seem to be saying much, that is what mean. It has a way of making a division `last' in a way it might not if just moved on past

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Trump is unlikeable to Lefties because he punches back. The political right is supposed to apologize to the Left when the Left punches them.

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He lost Arizona because he called their decade long Republican senator a loser who got captured in war. It doesn't matter if you argue McCain started it.

If Trump could have been the bigger man and not short himself in the face he wins AZ.

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Trump wins in a landslide even w covid, if he lied just a little less, didn't make outrageous claims, acted a bit more rationally in that first debate, tweeted less, and didn't pick fights unnecessarily w people like McCain. He torpedoed himself. Nobody to blame but himself.

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Not true. The Dems were going to manufacture enough votes in the key cities they knew were going to be battlegrounds to win the election Corona or not.

The Never trumpers were never going to vote trump regardless of any situation.

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Ok. You guys are obviously married to the cheating narrative so you're obviously not ever going to agree with me. No worries.

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Tone matters a lot to some people. I looked past it and focused more on his substance, but his tone often annoyed me. And that's coming from a supporter. He screwed up big time in the first debate; that single event probably moved the needle enough to cost him the election.

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Agreed. And I'm pretty sure his strategy there was to get Biden to break. But he didn't, and that cost him a lot.

A typical politician tip toes his/her way through the perception of likeability. Trump was not an experienced politician who provided endless ammo to the media he insulted to fire back at him. I'm amazed AND IMPRESSED that he made it this far.

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Look, I voted for Trump both in 2020 and 2016. But let's be honest, he's a bit of an ass and an egomaniac (not unlike Obama). I love most of his policies...but a lot of time when he speaks I just have to tune him out. I can easily see how less educated voters who vote more on feelz would not vote for him. It's not rocket science.

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His base is uneducated white males. He has an inverse relationship with education. Agree with your other points.

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I'm talking about education on political policies and how our government is supposed to work. Not grade school knowledge.

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You really think the masses of poor uneducated whites are better educated on government than the highly educated? Maybe so - i wouldnt think that is the case.

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Many college educated people are some of the stupidest people in the country.

Having a college degree does not make a person smart, especially when it is something that ends in "studies."

The smartest man I've ever known other than my dad never went beyond high school, but when it came to everything that was important, the man had more knowledge than someone with a dozen PhDs.

It's because people hate his freedom.

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Same reason the CEO of my employer is unlikeable. You don't get to that level without hurting a few feelings. But you know what, I respect the guy and appreciate how he runs our company because I've made good money and have a great career.

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There is a big difference between being unlikeable like many ultra successful people and acting like Trump. Trump would not be fit to run any major company. No board would allow it. He wouldnt be fit to run any major law firm or bank. He had 0 self control. Ultra successful folks are often difficult but they aren't embarrassments to the organization.

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There are no moderates. Only people with no political philosophy that vote for how a candidate makes them feel.

Uh, how much time ya got?

Never takes a second to think about the words that come out of his mouth. Just starts talking and lets his brain catch up later. Refuses to acknowledge there is any possible topic on which he is not an expert. In another life, he'd be Donnie from NY, the loudmouth at the end of the bar annoying strangers with unsolicited advice and inane political ramblings.

Toxic narcissism the likes of which nobody's ever seen before. Many people are saying it's the most impressive ego they've ever encountered. Big strong ego-maniacs come up to me with tears in their eyes and say "Mr. President..."

Primary obsession in daily life seemed to be watching whatever people were saying about him on cable news and getting angry. Complete inability to accept any slight, no matter how inconsequential. Little seemed to bring him more joy in life than wailing on the long-dead carcasses of his defeated foes.

Not likeable ? " People have told me I am the most likeable person anyone has ever seen. Frankly, no one has ever seen anyone as likeable as me. I'm far more likeable than Obama or Bush. I wont say all the others names but you know them. I get calls all the time from leaders all around the world and they say, Mr President you are a really nice guy. Of course the media won't report it because they are all fake news. " Djt

Oooh I just thought of a good example; the pissing match with Rex Tillerson. Trump going on and on about his high IQ (correct or not) was a pretty pathetic display. Tillerson was out of the picture, but Trump just couldn't leave it alone.

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Nah. I think he was sick in the first debate and didn't know it yet. And he was damn right--- he was debating Chris Wallace AND Biden. I watched that debate and found myself wanting to throw a book at Wallace more than once so it wasn't imagination. The real moment is asking Trump to denounce `white supremacy' (which hardly existed in Portland) while not asking Biden to denounce Marxism and CRT. Wallace became the same as Maddow in that moment.

I don't think there was much "strategy" in the first debate---Trump was trying to interject major points, like the Ratcliffe revelations about the Biden crime, in between interruptions, and was losing his own cool.

It's about 10%.

90% of what the guy says and does is fantastic. It's the last, unnecessary 10% where he gets off message and makes personal ad hominem attacks about opponents' looks, intelligence, popularity or family that makes him an unlikeable a-hole. The Right has tolerated it because of the 90%, and rationalize it because we are glad to finally have a fighter. But you can fight hard without biting, eye-gouging and hair-pulling.

Not a lib(more of a fan of Barry Goldwaters politics), but for me trump making a political issue out of masks was the last straw. He knew COVID made his popularity go down (wouldn't blame Him for the outbreak, no one knew what it was ) and to win, he needed to rally his voter base, so he made masks political (which he didn't have to) and not caring the fact that his voter base would be the most vulnerable(especially when he has those huge rallies). This just showed me that he doesn't give a damn about conservatives or the conservative movement, but just wants to win at all costs( that is fine too, a person has the right to do what ever he wants in this great country, but wouldn't have my support). I think there were significant number of people who thought like me too.

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In a lot of these threads people keep saying Trump lost because of his personality, his attitude, etc....What the hell makes him so unlikeable vs Biden? What has he said, or done that made him impossible to vote for? I honestly don't get it.

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I don't know.....but you could start by asking the 70 million people that like him and voted for him.

In no particular order.

- Jealousy of wealth / privilege
- Huge ego and lack of a filter
- His wife is hotter than anyone they will ever have
- Doesn't play by the rules
- Feminists think he's mean (see propaganda)
- Opinion that he's racist as can be (see propaganda)
- Propaganda has brainwashed people

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Look, I voted for Trump both in 2020 and 2016. But let's be honest, he's a bit of an ass and an egomaniac (not unlike Obama). I love most of his policies...but a lot of time when he speaks I just have to tune him out. I can easily see how less educated voters who vote more on feelz would not vote for him. It's not rocket science.

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Having a college degree does not make a person smart, especially when it is something that ends in "studies."

The smartest man I've ever known other than my dad never went beyond high school, but when it came to everything that was important, the man had more knowledge than someone with a dozen PhDs.

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And when you consider the absolute dumbed down drivel the `higher education' system is pushing these days, it is even more true. A degree means only that you completed the curriculum. Not that that curriculum was worth a plugged nickel. That has to be independently shown to be true by its follow-through. Also, any who stop learning after they graduate are going to be pretty ignorant -- and a huge chunk of talking heads look like they never added to what `fed' in school.

Another Trump voter here that cannot stand him but still voted for him even though I didn't vote for him in 2016.

I think the best way to describe it is, he's not very well measured (which strangely enough, a lot of people think is an important aspect of being a leader). He is quick to throw out insults and baseless claims whenever his words or policies are threatened. We all know people like this. Nothing is ever their fault. He will quickly retweet unfounded claims that hurt his opponents. Yes, leaders on the left make unfounded claims on Trump like that he's racist or bigoted, but at least they build off a consistent misinformation theme, they don't just throw out or retweet every negative claim that comes out. The media does, but not the political leaders with possible presidential aspirations.

George W. Bush was demonized. GW Bush even compromised with leftwing ideas-- like Medicare Part D. By the time he left office, the Left had declared him responsible for lying to start wars, and many believed it.

If Jeb Bush had won the 2016 election, Jeb would have been demonized just as much, or he would have completely capitulated to the Left, but that would not be enough. He would have been destroyed either way.

Trump fights. He's still just as vilified, but he fights back.

The danger to the left is when a leader fights for his own ideas and policies, he is also fighting for his supporters and that galvanizes them.

Often, that leads to winning.

The left can't allow someone not like them to win. Hence, they cheat to destroy him. The ends justify the means.

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He says mean things.

This is basically what all the NPCs believe because the media tells them so.

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Trump was popular before he became President
Then he beat Madam PantSuit.

This pi$$ed of the Ds, and their propaganda arm - the media.
They riled the suburban pant suit women and of course their emasculated men followed along.
I live in Austin, and the number of ****s who joined the march for women's rights was stagerring, but completely believable for Austin.
Many post on this board I'm sure.

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Oooh I just thought of a good example; the pissing match with Rex Tillerson. Trump going on and on about his high IQ (correct or not) was a pretty pathetic display. Tillerson was out of the picture, but Trump just couldn't leave it alone.

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That is a good example of the "retroactive" kind of disparage I meant. Don't even agree that insulting Pelosi is bad---she rates it from him. Its the retroactive that is the problem, and really starts looking petty. Tillerson was largely out of picture.

Another example-- -at recent rallies President Trump has mentioned an"over-rated general" -- I don't know who that is (it was when first came in, so someone already there - not Mattis), but its one of those nails on chalk. Since it doesn't refer to something current, it just delivers wrong.

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In a lot of these threads people keep saying Trump lost because of his personality, his attitude, etc....What the hell makes him so unlikeable vs Biden? What has he said, or done that made him impossible to vote for? I honestly don't get it.

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If America is voting on personalities and not policies, we are lost, gullible, unintelligent, and superficial as a country.

There will never be a "PERFECT" candidate on either side for every person in America. For those conservatives who voted Democrat simply due to Donald's personality, shame on you. Enjoy the drop in your pay check, uptick in taxes and medical, shrinking 401K / IRA / 529's. Enjoy a shrinking jobs market. And credit your self with giving mega-libs the power to destroy the oil industry. We will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs in our industry. There are 10 million O&G industry jobs a stake here you bafoons.

By the way...Solar and Wind BOTH need the O&G industry to thrive. And, what mega liberal doesn't utilize plastics everyday you hypocritical bums.

Trump isnt very likeable.

Saban's not likeable either. But he wins.

Voting for personality over policy is extremely immature.

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I voted for him, but if you seriously can't see why he is unlikeable I'm not sure this thread is going to help you. He's a complete ass.

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I didn't say he's mean. I said he's an ass. He's obnoxious as hell.

Trump has no tact. It's all about how you say things. None of us can walk around saying whatever we want however we want to say it. That would get us fired and/or nobody would like us.

Trump did a lot of great things but he was so damn unlikeable to half the country that those things didn't matter.

The answer to the OP's questions is - The MSM and propaganda in the form of relentlessly pushing of a constructive and/or destructive narrative on behalf of the leftist movement. Trump is clearly aligned against them he is defending our Constitution they are wanting to transfrom America so they are destroying his character and his message.

Trump is not really mean spirited nor racists or bigoted, Nothing in his history shows that at all. He's simply truthful via a no-nonsence fair but definitely firm businessman type of individual that merely tells it like HE see's it. He has not said or done a single thing in his life nor his Presidency that, chucky schumer or nancy pelosi or bill clinton or hillary clinton or any number of left leaning Hollywood types or politicians have done or said and many have said and done far far worse actually but; they are summarily given a pass because they are of the same mindset and on the side that has the machinations of the MSM working for them and not against them.

This in nothing more than the results of decades of propaganda driven messaging aimed at doing what the left has always been focused on doing, picking the winners and losers based on ideology and then drumming the message into the psyche of the American Masses.

Clearly about half of the public is not totally convinced and resisting the biased messaging but; sadly a large measure about half are weak minded and have bought off of the multitude of lies and actual dis information program, or they are weak in spirit and have determined the fight is not worth it and will just go along to get along, It's as simple as that and that is what the Left has been counting on all along.

The same reason that Nancy Pelosi is so detestable. The inability to admit when they're wrong, and the rampant partisanship. She pisses me off more than Trump, but Trump embarrasses me more than her.

I think Trump's demeanor is partly what won him the first election.

But I also think his demeanor is partly what lost him this election.

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Trump isnt very likeable.

Saban's not likeable either. But he wins.

Voting for personality over policy is extremely immature.

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There's a major difference between how a person like Saban is not likeable and how Trump is not likeable. Saban at least has a comfortable relationship with the truth.

Even when presented with video of Trump saying something he would lie every time and argue, argue, argue that he did not say/do whatever. Trump's lies and conspiracy bent did him in.

If you want evidence of his unlikable-ness, look no further than that he's about to lose an election (with a historic number of votes cast) to a candidate whose entire campaign strategy was not being Trump.