*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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fasthorse05 said:

Bet a whole lot they require photo ID's!
I created a Facebook account years ago and stopped using it a few months after realizing it was a complete waste of time. But I never canceled the account. Recently it seems I've seen a big uptick in post notifications so I decided to try to login in and cancel the account.

Well I had long ago lost the login info, so I started the recover password process and as part of their security measures, Facebook wanted me to send them a selfie to confirm my identity (probably in order to squash bots I guess), but the point is, Facebook thinks that photo identification is a good way to confirm identity, but it's racist/fascist/sexist of me to expect that out election boards should do the same.
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will25u said:




WHOOP!!!! BTHO VOTER FRAUD!!!
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will25u said:




Had to look up Rep Mark Fincham. Two very different tales. One very respectable on the legislature site, the other on wiki calls him a Far Right Politician. He is running for Sec of State. Maybe Elon can buy wiki for another $28 and clean it up too...

https://www.azleg.gov/house-member/?legislature=55&session=123&legislator=2006


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Finchem

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Mark W. Finchem[1] is an American far-right politician[2][3] serving as a member of the Arizona House of Representatives representing District 11 since January 5, 2015. He is the Arizona Coordinator for the Coalition of Western States, an organization that opposes the activities of the Bureau of Land Management and supported the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016
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will25u said:


I like Kline a lot and his work for the Amistad Project has been excellent, even if the law doesn't allow him to prevail pre-election. He was all over the Zuckbucks stuff and filed many lawsuits to stop it, again before the election.

But the True the Vote people have the locations where ballots were being picked up by the mules. Someone had to sign something to lease the space. But in Georgia, I'd start with any place connected to Stacey Abrams and all of her foundations, organizations, PACs etc.
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This is a little disappointing from former Judge Luttig.

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J. Michael Luttig, appointed by President George H. W. Bush, formerly served on the US Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit for 15 years. He advised Vice President Mike Pence on January 6. The opinions expressed in this commentary are his own. View more opinion at CNN.
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That objective is not somehow to rescind the 2020 election, as they would have us believe. That's constitutionally impossible. Trump's and the Republicans' far more ambitious objective is to execute successfully in 2024 the very same plan they failed in executing in 2020 and to overturn the 2024 election if Trump or his anointed successor loses again in the next quadrennial contest.

The last presidential election was a dry run for the next.
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From long before Election Day 2020, Trump and Republicans planned to overturn the presidential election by exploiting the Electors and Elections Clauses of the Constitution, the Electoral College, the Electoral Count Act of 1877, and the 12th Amendment, if Trump lost the popular and Electoral College vote.

The cornerstone of the plan was to have the Supreme Court embrace the little known "independent state legislature" doctrine, which, in turn, would pave the way for exploitation of the Electoral College process and the Electoral Count Act, and finally for Vice President Mike Pence to reject enough swing state electoral votes to overturn the election using Pence's ceremonial power under the 12th Amendment and award the presidency to Donald Trump.
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The independent state legislature doctrine says that, under the Elections and the Electors Clauses of the Constitution, state legislatures possess plenary and exclusive power over the conduct of federal presidential elections and the selection of state presidential electors. Not even a state supreme court, let alone other state elections officials, can alter the legislatively written election rules or interfere with the appointment of state electors by the legislatures, under this theory.
It is not a "doctrine" it is enumerated in the Constitution. And the bolded is simply not true. An election law change was ruled unconstitutional according to the state constitution in Pennsylvania, for instance.

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The Supreme Court has never decided whether to embrace the independent state legislature doctrine. But then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist, and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas in separate concurring opinions said they would embrace that doctrine in Bush v. Gore, 20 years earlier, and Republicans had every reason to believe there were at least five votes on the Supreme Court for the doctrine in November 2020, with Amy Coney Barrett having just been confirmed in the eleventh hour before the election.
Gee whiz, originalists being true to what is written in the Constitution. Imagine that! Goofy thing for Luttig to say.

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Trump and the Republicans began executing this first stage of their plan months before November 3, by challenging as violative of the independent state legislature doctrine election rules relating to early- and late-voting, extensions of voting days and times, mail-in ballots, and other election law changes that Republicans contended had been unlawfully altered by state officials and state courts in swing states such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Michigan.
As was their right to do so. Reading nefarious intent here reeks of TDS.

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These cases eventually wound their way to the Supreme Court in the fall of 2020, and by December, the Supreme Court had decided all of these cases, but only by orders, either disallowing federal court intervention to change an election rule that had been promulgated by a state legislature, allowing legislatively promulgated rules to be changed by state officials and state courts, or deadlocking 4-4, because Justice Barrett was not sworn in until after those cases were briefed and ready for decision by the Court. In none of these cases did the Supreme Court decide the all-important independent state legislature doctrine
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The Electoral Count Act empowers Congress to decide the presidency in a host of circumstances where Congress determines that state electoral votes were not "regularly given" by electors who were "lawfully certified," terms that are undefined and ambiguous.
Exactly, you doofus. That's the problem with the Electoral Count Act. It is a lot of run on sentences and unclear.

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Thwarted by the Supreme Court in the first stage, foiled by their inability to come up with alternative state electoral slates in the second stage, and with time running out, Trump and the Republicans began executing the final option in their plan, which was to scare up illegitimate alternative electoral slates in various swing states to be transmitted to Congress. Whereupon, on January 6, Vice President Pence would count only the votes of the illegitimate electors from the swing states, and not the votes of the legitimate, certified electors that were cast for Biden, and declare Donald Trump's reelection as President of the United States.
He keeps using the term "plan" implying some conspiracy in trying to maneuver through the miasma of poorly drafted and sometimes contradictory election laws.

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Glad this guy never made it to the Supreme Court. He has been on a short list for a few nominations.
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...and from Republican appointment. Scary to put into perspective if this is considered the "conservative" view, how far off the reservation liberal judges are.
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Rapier108
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End up with 210 seats means the Republicans would get around 20, give or take.

If that happens, then it is a red blip, not a red wave.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

End up with 210 seats means the Republicans would get around 20, give or take.

If that happens, then it is a red blip, not a red wave.
This.

Not exactly what many people were expecting.
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Rapier108 said:

End up with 210 seats means the Republicans would get around 20, give or take.

If that happens, then it is a red blip, not a red wave.

This projection is based on "safe seats" that may not be safe in the current electoral climate.

An R+9 electorate, which is on the table for November, isn't something anyone has seen before.
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We fixed the keg said:

...and from RINO Republican appointment. Scary to put into perspective if this is considered the "conservative" view, how far off the reservation liberal judges are.


FIFY
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She clarified one very important part of their study as well. It was not just the number of times a person went to a drop box, but also the number of times they went to nonprofit organizations.

"You had to go to a minimum number of nonprofit organizations and a minimum number of drop boxes. It varied slightly, state to state, jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but on balance … to make our study, you had to go to on average, five nonprofit organizations and 38 drop boxes for us to even collect you in our study," she said, noting they were looking only at "extremes."

"As damning as it is, is just the tip of the iceberg," she said, noting that ballot harvesting rules vary from state to state. But even so, True the Vote weeded through the data.

"Now, I'll say that in Georgia there's a loophole, as you will oftentimes find an election laws, there's always the loophole that … you could submit a ballot on behalf of a family member or someone who is in the hospital, someone who is infirm," she said, explaining the process [of] doing so.
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Keegan99 said:


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Trump was LOVED. This bull**** that he had huge negative numbers is not supportable by the data.

Yea... no.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Even today he's still underwater by 5 points.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html



This notion that he was some Reaganesque figure adored by some decisive majority is simply not true.

You're not going to win elections if you cannot accept reality.
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n/m
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American Hardwood
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Incredible what lengths they will go through to protect the cheat. There is zero logical reason to not wanting a notice on ballots that tell you what might be an illegal vote.
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will25u said:


That's fine as long as the liability of counting votes twice is placed on the organization doing the counting.

Another example of why reconciled voter rolls are so important.
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will25u
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Thread about 2000 Mules.

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Here it is unrolled.

https://t.co/HwkTpYNl2v
American Hardwood
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I saw 2000 Mules last night. Definitely worth seeing, however if you have been an election fraud junky and have paid attention to this thread, you won't learn much you haven't already read here.

Do yourself a favor though, and go see it with a friend that hasn't paid much attention to it or maybe even believes the election was legit. You would be doing a service to your country.
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will25u said:

Thread about 2000 Mules.


True the Vote and Catherine/Gregg probably used my 12 PhD/Masters CEH's (right there in GA), or they are beer/golf buddies with them. The odds are above 50% at this point. It was a CISA election security contract, after all. Catherine's said there were "12 hackers used in GA" on numerous occasions, so...

If they were my team, Fu**in-A, man.
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Now everyone knows why "True The Vote" was picked out by the Obama Administration ( among many, many, others) for yearly audits!

Apparently, it's because they're really good.

Classic modern Dem behavior. Have the government put your enemy out of business, have them audited, get the DOJ/FBI, State Department/ etc. after them, and I'll give you several million for re-election.

It's been going on for a long time, but now it's considered acceptable by most Dems and journos.
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will25u said:




Any indication that is working or just a Hail Mary?
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