*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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BadMoonRisin said:

All of the focus is on Zuckerbucks for 2020 given that it was almost half a billion dollars, but is anyone aware of if this sort of thing was normal pre-2020, even if at a smaller scale?

That is, were private entities/PACs able to donate $$ to "help facilitate" elections?

Im kind of surprised that something that prevents this kind of obvious conflict of interest wasn't already on the books.
Regarding PACs, basically $ amt has been increasing for 30+ years.

This resource has some data/information: https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/2020


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oh no said:


An Obama judge blocked Florida's law a few weeks ago. He also said the state must allow unlimited drop boxes, ballot harvesting, mail in ballots, Zuckerbucks, and "voter assistants" to "help" people out ballots.

He also put them on 10 years probation where he must approve any election law changes.

Florida is obviously appealing.

Why did he make this ruling? "Muh racism" against blacks of course.

The judge also basically told the Supreme Court to "Go **** Yourself" and dared them to overturn his ruling.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Glad judges don't have that kind of power.

Even though they did temporarily do it for the 2020 election.

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Thanks, but that's not quite what I meant. I get how PACs donate to candidates, my question is if private entities could fund the infrastructure that counts the vote, e.g. how the Zuckerbucks were used. Im almost certain no one else was able to use claw-back provisions to get the money back if the government didnt break the election laws that were part of the conditions to receive the "grants".
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BadMoonRisin said:

All of the focus is on Zuckerbucks for 2020 given that it was almost half a billion dollars, but is anyone aware of if this sort of thing was normal pre-2020, even if at a smaller scale?

That is, were private entities/PACs able to donate $$ to "help facilitate" elections?

Im kind of surprised that something that prevents this kind of obvious conflict of interest wasn't already on the books.
PACs and campaigns have reporting requirements. Other private entities can conduct voter registration assistance and the like without such strict reporting.

What made the Zuckbucks stand out was not only the amounts and disparity to nearly exclusively Dem areas but also the detail of what the money could be spent for and the claw back clause if it was not. Since many of the designated projects such as drop boxes and ballot harvesting were illegal in many states, CTCL was in essence bribing election officials to break the law.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Thanks, but that's not quite what I meant. I get how PACs donate to candidates, my question is if private entities could fund the infrastructure that counts the vote, e.g. how the Zuckerbucks were used. Im almost certain no one else was able to use claw-back provisions to get the money back if the government didnt break the election laws that were part of the conditions to receive the "grants".
By no one else, do you mean other than election offices (the primary recipients of the grants) or groups other than Zuck's non profit?

The rules/conditions of those "Covid relief" grants have nothing to do with election laws, to my knowledge. The question is whether in entering into an agreement with CTCL (Zuck's non-profit) to receive and use those funds, election offices broke certain state election laws. Such as:


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Wis. Stat. 12.11, in relevant part, prohibits a city from receiving money to facilitate electors going to the polls or to facilitate electors to voting by absentee ballot:
Election bribery
(1) In this section, "anything of value" includes any amount of money, or any object which has utility independent of any political message it contains and the value of which exceeds $1…
(1m) Any person who does any of the following violates this chapter:
1. Offers, gives, lends or promises to give or lend, or endeavors to procure, anything of value, or any office or employment or any privilege or immunity to, or for, any elector, or to or for any other person, in order to induce any elector to:
1. Go to … the polls.
2. Vote…. [emphasis added in report]

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/center-for-tech-and-civic-life/
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During the interview, Charlie Kirk says he spent time with Dinesh D'Souza the producer of "2000 Mules." Charlie then dropped this bomb.
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Charlie Kirk: You have the surveillance video that Dinesh is using in his upcoming movie where people are coming out of the car with piles of ballots. Illegal. You cannot do that in Georgia. Stuffing them into ballot boxes funded by Mark Zuckerberg… Coming night after night after night, the same guys. They're wearing latex gloves on camera, after they put the ballots in the drop boxes they take off the latex gloves because they don't want fingerprints on the ballots and they take pictures of every ballot. And you'll see this video footage. I had a six-hour meeting with Dinesh D'Souza and I saw all the evidence for myself. I was really skeptical at first and we dove into it. And I was blown away at how the sophisticated technology they used to be able to track these people using cellphone technology because your cellphone is letting off a ping every 3 to 5 seconds. You can go buy those pings off of certain geographic areas… They saw that some of these mules would visit these drop boxes every night. And then go to Stacey Abrams' headquarters and then go back to the drop boxes.

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Do you have another link to the video? All I see is this photo:


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Found the trailer. Trailer shows that same guy in photo and some other mules at multiple Dboxes, with Dinesh commentary. Anyone know when this documentary comes out?

http://2000mules.com/

Trump says 2000 Mules has the evidence:

"Highly respected Dinesh D'Souza, working together with Catherine Engelbrecht of True the Vote, just released a trailer to their new movie, "2,000 Mules," that shows the world exactly how the 2020 Presidential Election was Rigged and Stolen. The movie exposes the lies of the Democrats, RINOs, and Fake News who say it was the "most secure election in history." It was, perhaps, the least secure in history. The ballot box was stuffed, and stuffed like never beforeand it's all on video. Ballots were trafficked and sold in a massive operation in each Swing State. The evidence is so damning, what will the cowards who sat and did nothing about the stolen election say now? The way our votes were taken away is a disgrace to our Nation. It must be fixed."

ETA: trailer has been out for a few months now.
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Sometime later this month, I believe.
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I get "voter registration drives"

But weren't Zuckerbucks used to fund Smiling Faces, LLC, for whom Ruby Freeman and her daughter worked for, who were actually involved with administering the counting.

Having private dollars hire contractors that do the actual counting (or holding poster board against the windows so no one can see whats going on when they were) that should obviously be illegal, but it wasn't? How?

Or are all people that do the vote counting contracted out? Im asking because I dont know. I assumed they were volunteers, much like observers and people who sign you in when you go into the voting facility.
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BadMoonRisin said:

I get "voter registration drives"

But weren't Zuckerbucks used to fund Smiling Faces, LLC, for whom Ruby Freeman and her daughter worked for, who were actually involved with administering the counting.

Having private dollars hire contractors that do the actual counting (or holding poster board against the windows so no one can see whats going on when they were) that should obviously be illegal, but it wasn't? How?

Or are all people that do the vote counting contracted out? Im asking because I dont know. I assumed they were volunteers, much like observers and people who sign you in when you go into the voting facility.
I have not seen the Georgia documents (or if I did, I've forgotten where) but I have seen other jurisdiction responses to a CTCL required report back on how they spent the grant money. In those, hiring more workers for counting and other types of election workers was definitely included. (Very distinct possibility and given her deep involvement in Georgia's elections I'd say high probability.)

Somewhere in this massive thread I had discussed those reports back to CTCL and quoted from a few of them. In general, those reports were accompanying new requests for additional grants for off-year (2021) elections.
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oh no said:


NC will be there next target for cheating. They still live them some mandates in the cities
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Who knew politics was so lucrative. /s

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If you recall on election night, there were signs of shinannigans happening in NC as well, it just tapered off as the other "swing states" closed the gaps in the following days.
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will25u said:

Who knew politics was so lucrative. /s


i heard she's written a lot of sex books to earn all that dough.
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Im not surprised. She's the President of Earf
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I remember this. I expected that NC was going to start something as well. Because AZ, MI, and WI went the way they went, I assumed "the powers that be" decided to give Trump NC and keep the state in its pocket for future elections
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will25u said:


I'm not an attorney, but why can't the states affected by his organization sue his sorry ass for billions. I'd love for him to have to sell a ****ton of FB (META) stock to pay the states.
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I remember this. I expected that NC was going to start something as well. Because AZ, MI, and WI went the way they went, I assumed "the powers that be" decided to give Trump NC and keep the state in its pocket for future elections
Or they miscalculated the number of fraudulent votes needed.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Citizens United has a documentary coming out.

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What if the 2020 election was "rigged" in plain sight and through entirely legal means using $400 million dollars from Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan through the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI)?

The bombshell upcoming documentary Rigged from Citizens United Productions explains how this Big Tech power couple contributed hundreds of millions of dollars to a pair of non-profit organizations through CZI. The non-profits, in turn, spent the money on a Democrat-focused get-out-the-vote effort all under the guise of pandemic "election safety."

Rigged starts by recounting Big Tech's role in the last two elections, starting with 2016, when Donald Trumpharnessing the power of social mediashocked the world by flipping the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania to pull off an upset victory against Hillary Clinton. By the time of Trump's inauguration, Mark Zuckerberg had come under tremendous fire from the Democrat elite over Facebook's perceived failure to censor content seen as favorable to the Trump campaign.

But four years later, lo and behold, the coronavirus pandemic would give Zuckerberg a clear shot at redemption.

The documentary Rigged tells this story. Through their philanthropic organization the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI), which lists Barack Obama's former campaign manager David Plouffe (who authored the book A Citizen's Guide to Beating Donald Trump) as a key strategist, Zuckerberg and his wife donated $69.5 million to the Center for Election Innovation and Research (CEIR) and a whopping $328 million to the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL), a non-profit headed by Obama Foundation fellow Tiana Epps-Johnson, who prior to creating CTCL in 2015, worked for an organization described by the Washington Post as "the Democratic party's Hogwarts for digital wizardry."

As former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gabelman says in the documentary, the CTCL essentially became a vehicle for Zuckerberg and Chan to fund get-out-the-vote efforts in mostly Democrat-populated districts in key swing states like Wisconsin.
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That supposed to be April 5, 2022?
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My guess is yes.

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will25u said:

Who knew politics was so lucrative. /s


Running for office. The only job you can get richer and not do anything. (Said could be said for most members of Congress)
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will25u said:




Did they get the year wrong? Should that be 4/5/2022 instead?


Somebody beat me to the punch--thanks...
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+1 Conservative WI State Court of Appeals Judge.

And...

Kenosha Conservative County Executive elected.



Didn't research the rest of the races.
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CONFIRMED: Investigations in Both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin Show 7% of Ballots Dropped in Drop Boxes in 2020 Election Were Illegally Harvested
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There appears to be a pattern occurring where 7% of the ballots dropped in drop boxes in the 2020 Election were illegal ballots.

Yesterday we reported that True the Vote stated that 7% of the ballots dropped in Wisconsin drop boxes in the 2020 Election were likely illegal votes. Country-wide this could be around 5 million ballots.

In Lehigh County Pennsylvania, we note that a similar ratio of ballots dropped in drop boxes in the 2020 Election appear to be illegally harvested.

Overnight we reported that the local Republican District Attorney in Lehigh County decided not to prosecute those individuals identified through a forensic analysis who were involved in illegally dropping ballots in the drop boxes in the county.

Today we received the report from the county where the investigation performed showed that 7.1% of the individuals who dropped off ballots in drop boxes in the county, dropped off multiple and therefore illegal ballots.




https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/confirmed-investigations-pennsylvania-wisconsin-show-7-ballots-dropped-drop-boxes-2020-election-illegally-harvested/
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From the other thread... H/t Verne Lundquist.

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Republicans are winning, EVERYWHERE.

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Republican hold.

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