I can almost guarantee that between the 3 Atlanta counties 100k votes didn't meet the minimum standards to be counter. Chances that it's 150-200k statewide? Very, very high. Would it have been enough to swing the election. Yes. Will we ever know? No. Too much will have been separated, lost, concealed, damaged, destroyed etc for it to ever matter.oh no said:
that's just dekalb. my bet is that fulton was far worse. they need forensic audits.
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Thank you for the updates.will25u said:
Dropping this here from the other thread...Quote:Quote:
Of the 61,731 absentee ballots DeKalb County recorded as being deposited into drop boxes during the November 2020 election, 46 percent or 28,194 of the absentee ballots were not documented as being received by the elections registrar or the director's designee until the day after they were collected from the drop box.Quote:
For another 26 percent, representing 15,713 absentee ballots collected from drop boxes during the November 2020 election, there was no receipt time recorded at all by the elections office, as is required by the July 2020 emergency election code rule.Quote:
That rule states absentee ballots placed in drop boxes, "shall be immediately transported to the county registrar" by the two person collection team, which is required to sign a ballot transfer form indicating the number of ballots picked up, the time the ballots were picked up, and the location of the drop box, and that, "The county registrar or a designee thereof shall sign the ballot transfer form upon receipt of the ballots from the collection team."https://georgiastarnews.com/2021/08/30/43000-absentee-ballot-votes-counted-in-dekalb-county-2020-election-violated-chain-of-custody-rule/Quote:
15,713 absentee ballots whose chain of custody was accounted for on ballot transfer forms for with there was no registrar's designee signature for time or date of receipt) were counted in the certified results of the November 3, 2020 election despite being delivered to the registrar's office in clear violation of the chain of custody documentation of the Georgia State Election Board's July 2020 rule.
The amount of mistakes and seemingly unadulterated corruption is astounding.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
There is no way this can be true because we've been assured by those who won that this was the most secure election in history.
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
LOL, no they were just collecting Zuckerbucks. Coastal elites poured 100s of millions into the 2020 election. They didn't spend that kind of money to lose.oh no said:
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
Can we stop calling these people "elites"? That implies that there is something about them that is worthy of respect. Can we replace that with something like "rich idiots" that is more descriptive of who they really are?HumpitPuryear said:LOL, no they were just collecting Zuckerbucks. Coastal elites poured 100s of millions into the 2020 election. They didn't spend that kind of money to lose.oh no said:
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
Brahmins?txags92 said:Can we stop calling these people "elites"? That implies that there is something about them that is worthy of respect. Can we replace that with something like "rich idiots" that is more descriptive of who they really are?HumpitPuryear said:LOL, no they were just collecting Zuckerbucks. Coastal elites poured 100s of millions into the 2020 election. They didn't spend that kind of money to lose.oh no said:
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
bourgeoisie in the US want so desperately to be like their socialist idols in europe and scandinavia that they've grown to hate their own country and are funding to destroy it. Can't have a great reset and join in the global communist utopia unless we destroy jobs and industry, destroy sources of pride, divide the proletariat into groups and pit them against each other, cheat to obtain eternal absolute power to regulate and legislate this thing into a whole new country.
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Why no leaks from a member of the audit team ?
Sophisticated?txags92 said:Can we stop calling these people "elites"? That implies that there is something about them that is worthy of respect. Can we replace that with something like "rich idiots" that is more descriptive of who they really are?HumpitPuryear said:LOL, no they were just collecting Zuckerbucks. Coastal elites poured 100s of millions into the 2020 election. They didn't spend that kind of money to lose.oh no said:
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
Rich a-holes or rich POS works for me.Decay said:Brahmins?txags92 said:Can we stop calling these people "elites"? That implies that there is something about them that is worthy of respect. Can we replace that with something like "rich idiots" that is more descriptive of who they really are?HumpitPuryear said:LOL, no they were just collecting Zuckerbucks. Coastal elites poured 100s of millions into the 2020 election. They didn't spend that kind of money to lose.oh no said:
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
Select sophists?HumpitPuryear said:Sophisticated?txags92 said:Can we stop calling these people "elites"? That implies that there is something about them that is worthy of respect. Can we replace that with something like "rich idiots" that is more descriptive of who they really are?HumpitPuryear said:LOL, no they were just collecting Zuckerbucks. Coastal elites poured 100s of millions into the 2020 election. They didn't spend that kind of money to lose.oh no said:
i imagine there are a lot of poor local idiots all across the country who thought they were being heroes for helping to oust the fascist nazi white supremacist Donald Trump, not even realizing they were paving the way for the authoritarian left to use their marxist tactics to intentionally divide and destroy America. Not too many comprehend that getting rid of mean tweets meant begging for America Last in every policy and decision.
Blue bucks?
Prosperous patricians?
After what Biden/Harris have done to this country since inauguration, you would think there would be some angry participants that would come forward.
. . . all it takes is one domino to fall.
. . . all it takes is one domino to fall.
I believe they stated early on they wouldn't release the data until the report was complete. Isn't that how audits are generally conducted?BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:
Why no leaks from a member of the audit team ?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
#AZAudit The Senate (R) Caucus will be having closed a Zoom meeting tomorrow morning regarding an update on the Audit. I'll post any updates depending upon what Senators are able to tell us.
— Jellenne 🇺🇸🌵🌞 (@jellen805) September 2, 2021
Current reporting is that the Report is coming in 3 sections.
will25u said:#AZAudit The Senate (R) Caucus will be having closed a Zoom meeting tomorrow morning regarding an update on the Audit. I'll post any updates depending upon what Senators are able to tell us.
— Jellenne 🇺🇸🌵🌞 (@jellen805) September 2, 2021
Current reporting is that the Report is coming in 3 sections.
replace "open up" with "give me the report" and this is me...
Releasing report #1 in the next week would be ideal to strike while the iron is hotwill25u said:#AZAudit The Senate (R) Caucus will be having closed a Zoom meeting tomorrow morning regarding an update on the Audit. I'll post any updates depending upon what Senators are able to tell us.
— Jellenne 🇺🇸🌵🌞 (@jellen805) September 2, 2021
Current reporting is that the Report is coming in 3 sections.
Releasing report #2 & #3 in the following month will further undermine the credibility of the Biden administration
I hope they dont wait until August 2024 to release Report #1 (yet expect they will)
Hope some news is forthcoming soon, like this week maybe.will25u said:#AZAudit The Senate (R) Caucus will be having closed a Zoom meeting tomorrow morning regarding an update on the Audit. I'll post any updates depending upon what Senators are able to tell us.
— Jellenne 🇺🇸🌵🌞 (@jellen805) September 2, 2021
Current reporting is that the Report is coming in 3 sections.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Unfortunately I followed the "RussiaGate" thread for years.
Damning evidence all the way through.
Then, jack crap happened.
I expect the same with this audit. Plenty of evidence out there currently if you are willing to look but not many people care.
Hopefully I'm wrong and we see some real changes in our voting processes going forward but I doubt it.
Damning evidence all the way through.
Then, jack crap happened.
I expect the same with this audit. Plenty of evidence out there currently if you are willing to look but not many people care.
Hopefully I'm wrong and we see some real changes in our voting processes going forward but I doubt it.
It takes a while to get an audit report finalized. A lot of back and forth on wording and presentation. Timing for this one doesn't concern me yet.
My prediction is that this report will be long on security weaknesses and control design gaps in every process, interface, and transmission, but short on hard evidence of actual fraud. Tracks are covered, evidence long gone (which will be addressed in the gaps noted in the report), certain logs and admin passwords weren't provided (which will also be addressed). The list will be long, though. The main findings with the design gaps and weaknesses deal with it being too easy to commit fraud and impossible to prevent or detect certain fraud schemes.
There are a lot of things that need to be fixed in order to restore some confidence so voters aren't so disenfranchised. Security of registration records, security of voting machines, tabulation machines, and transmissions, software design and configurations that allow way too much fraud risk, chain of custody logs and records, ballot design, signature verification for mailed-in ballots, adjudication records/logs and accountability -- there is fraud risk all over the place. The report will highlight the risks and gaps, and make some recommendations.
My first hope is that there actually is a ton of indisputable fraud evidence, heads roll, people revolt, MSM can't ignore it or brush it off as Russian disinformation, big tech can't censor it, and states start auditing counties and precincts across the country so elections become more secure before the 2022 mid-terms.
My more probable and realistic hope is that this thing at least spurs similar forensic audits as a catalyst for change and improving the systems and processes across the country.
My prediction is that this report will be long on security weaknesses and control design gaps in every process, interface, and transmission, but short on hard evidence of actual fraud. Tracks are covered, evidence long gone (which will be addressed in the gaps noted in the report), certain logs and admin passwords weren't provided (which will also be addressed). The list will be long, though. The main findings with the design gaps and weaknesses deal with it being too easy to commit fraud and impossible to prevent or detect certain fraud schemes.
There are a lot of things that need to be fixed in order to restore some confidence so voters aren't so disenfranchised. Security of registration records, security of voting machines, tabulation machines, and transmissions, software design and configurations that allow way too much fraud risk, chain of custody logs and records, ballot design, signature verification for mailed-in ballots, adjudication records/logs and accountability -- there is fraud risk all over the place. The report will highlight the risks and gaps, and make some recommendations.
My first hope is that there actually is a ton of indisputable fraud evidence, heads roll, people revolt, MSM can't ignore it or brush it off as Russian disinformation, big tech can't censor it, and states start auditing counties and precincts across the country so elections become more secure before the 2022 mid-terms.
My more probable and realistic hope is that this thing at least spurs similar forensic audits as a catalyst for change and improving the systems and processes across the country.
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In April Dr. Clements was a guest speaker at the Regent University Robertson School of Government's symposium on election integrity in America today. Clements discussed the cowardice in the American judicial system. He noted that not a single electoral fraud case was given an evidentiary hearing in the US following the 2020 election despite the thousands of pages of evidence and hundreds of witnesses.
Dr. Clements recently joined TGP's Jim and Joe Hoft to talk about saving our elections and our Country
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Clements discussed his history as an investigator and what caused him to start digging into the 2020 election. After he continued to see more and more censorship of the truth, slandering of credible professionals, and bogus excuses from the government and the courts, he understands that this election was compromised and it's another deep-state plot.
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Clements: So the question is not so much "what is the remedy?". It's "Why haven't these institutions acted on black letter law?" And the answer to that is that they're corrupt, they've been compromised. So, my prescription from all this is I'm not going to waste my time in a corrupt court system, what I'm going to do is bypass that court system and go to the court of public opinion. And that's where you're instrumental, why, all of these other folks that I won't even call them second-tier social media but we've had to get around platform suppression, and find patriots that are consumed with finding out what the truth is. And collectively, you all are the only chance that we've got in getting the message out.
And I'm encouraged enough because we're on the cusp of having the Maricopa report published, and it's going to be a bombshell. I mean, there's just no doubt about it. I've been privy to some of the findings that are going to be released and people aren't going to believe just how bad Maricopa is. People are expecting it to be bad. It's far worse than anything I could have imagined. Oh, it's terrible.
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Thanks, aggiehawg. A lot of us really appreciate all the work you've done on this thread. Amazing how corrupt the election was and the media coverage continues to be.
Edit: same goes to will. Y'all are awesome.
Edit: same goes to will. Y'all are awesome.
I really hope my faith in the pajamahadeen is warranted here. They took down Dan Rather in 2004. Since we can't trust the media, it is up to them, us, that is to get the word out.snowdog90 said:
Thanks, aggiehawg. A lot of us really appreciate all the work you've done on this thread. Amazing how corrupt the election was and the media coverage continues to be.
Assuming we ever truly get "the word" on this subject. I expected it would take many months, estimated 6-9 months after SCOTUS refused to hear the Texas case to have concrete evidence of election fraud. We're in September so I still may short on my estimations but we are hopefully getting closer.
Sidenote: Can't remember where I read it recently but Raffensperger in Georgia filed a FOIA request aimed at and and all DOJ communications with Stacey Abrams affiliated entities and other liberal election groups that are suing over the new election law in Georgia. Being a FOIA instead of using discovery in the suit DOJ filed is puzzling though because FOIAs can take forever as the DOJ will just ignore it.
Thanks for the link and information.aggiehawg said:Quote:
In April Dr. Clements was a guest speaker at the Regent University Robertson School of Government's symposium on election integrity in America today. Clements discussed the cowardice in the American judicial system. He noted that not a single electoral fraud case was given an evidentiary hearing in the US following the 2020 election despite the thousands of pages of evidence and hundreds of witnesses.
Dr. Clements recently joined TGP's Jim and Joe Hoft to talk about saving our elections and our CountryQuote:
Clements discussed his history as an investigator and what caused him to start digging into the 2020 election. After he continued to see more and more censorship of the truth, slandering of credible professionals, and bogus excuses from the government and the courts, he understands that this election was compromised and it's another deep-state plot.FWIW.Quote:
Clements: So the question is not so much "what is the remedy?". It's "Why haven't these institutions acted on black letter law?" And the answer to that is that they're corrupt, they've been compromised. So, my prescription from all this is I'm not going to waste my time in a corrupt court system, what I'm going to do is bypass that court system and go to the court of public opinion. And that's where you're instrumental, why, all of these other folks that I won't even call them second-tier social media but we've had to get around platform suppression, and find patriots that are consumed with finding out what the truth is. And collectively, you all are the only chance that we've got in getting the message out.
And I'm encouraged enough because we're on the cusp of having the Maricopa report published, and it's going to be a bombshell. I mean, there's just no doubt about it. I've been privy to some of the findings that are going to be released and people aren't going to believe just how bad Maricopa is. People are expecting it to be bad. It's far worse than anything I could have imagined. Oh, it's terrible.
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Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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If Maricopa County is found to be infested with voter fraud I bet Fulton county Ga. will be hundred times worse.
If Maricopa County is found to be infested with voter fraud I bet Fulton county Ga. will be hundred times worse.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Leakers don't pay attention to protocol. Maybe Dr, Clements is the leaker. He says he sawrichardag said:I believe they stated early on they wouldn't release the data until the report was complete. Isn't that how audits are generally conducted?BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:
Why no leaks from a member of the audit team ?
the audit and it will be a bombshell !
and Wayne Co Michigan. ..Philly PA...richardag said:
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If Maricopa County is found to be infested with voter fraud I bet Fulton county Ga. will be hundred times worse.
Election worker says she witnessed unethical behavior during Ga. recount https://t.co/1G3oDTMDfL #OANN
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That's a lot of data to get through!
IIRC, ballot harvesting is illegal in Georgia. So those are actual crimes that were committed.
The pattern of behaviors would also presumably where the ballots were being manufactured then picked up by the harvester and straight to drop off boxes...in the middle of the night.
This could actually stick.And I bet you dollars to doughnuts those manufacturing locations were funded by CTCL and Zuckbucks.
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A document that the group's founder Catherine Engelbrecht circulated to prospective donors, obtained by Breitbart News, details several facets of the investigationwhich centers on what the group describes as the collection of cell phone GPS ping data in key election hotspots around the country including Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
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The document says that True The Vote has spent the last several months since late last year collecting more than 27 terabytes of geospatial and temporal dataa total of 10 trillion cell phone pingsbetween Oct. 1 and Nov. 6 in targeted areas in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Texas. The data includes geofenced points of interest like ballot dropbox locations, as well as UPS stores and select government, commercial, and non-governmental organization (NGO) facilities.
"From this we have thus far developed precise patterns of life for 242 suspected ballot traffickers in Georgia and 202 traffickers in Arizona," True The Vote's document says. "According to the data, each trafficker went to an average of 23 ballot dropboxes."
In other words, what the document says is that True The Vote was able to take cell phone ping data on a mass wide scale and piece together that several peoplesuspected ballot harvesterswere making multiple trips to multiple drop boxes, raising potential legal questions in a number of these states.
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From there, the document continues, True The Vote gathered surveillance video on the drop boxes in Georgia and is attempting to gather similar such surveillance video from other states. The document states that True The Vote has obtained one full petabyte of surveillance footage on drop boxestwo million minutes of videowhich it says is broken into 73,000 individual video files. The group is expected to begin releasing some of these videos, which purportedly show the same people going multiple times to the same drop boxes, in the coming weeks.
"We are building out video stories and have compiled videos of individuals stuffing ballot dropboxes with stacks of ballots, individuals depositing ballots in multiple dropboxes, unauthorized coordination between government workers engaged in the exchange of ballots, and several other tranches of video that capture unusual patterns such as the wearing of gloves to deposit ballots, taking pictures of ballot deposits, etc.," True The Vote's document says.
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There are several reasons why this revelation about True The Vote's effort is significant. First and foremost, these revelations come amid several ongoing so-called "audits" in a number of states like Arizona nationallythe results of the Arizona audit are imminently expectedand other efforts by some allies of former President Donald Trump to continue the push for illuminating what happened in the 2020 presidential election. Most of the aforementioned have either not been fruitful, or perhaps have even damaged the former president's cause by either not being factual or by being incomplete in their nature or for other reasons which cast doubt on their credibility. This self-described effort from True The Vote could change the discussion by providing proofcomplete with cell phone data and surveillance videoof allegedly illegal activity that could lead to much more drastic action by law enforcement or political leaders in these various states.
IIRC, ballot harvesting is illegal in Georgia. So those are actual crimes that were committed.
The pattern of behaviors would also presumably where the ballots were being manufactured then picked up by the harvester and straight to drop off boxes...in the middle of the night.
This could actually stick.And I bet you dollars to doughnuts those manufacturing locations were funded by CTCL and Zuckbucks.
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Figure 1: 24-hour Route in Georgia This person's route included stops at 5 organizations and 27 individual ballot drop boxes, traveling across 6 counties. Red dots represent ballot drop boxes, blue house icons (circled) represent targeted organizations, blue line represents daily travel path
This seems to be extremely significant. I look forward to further development.
Agree. Because we are talking about actual crimes being committed and those targeted organizations having a direct involvement. Also note that this one person traveled across 6 different counties on their daily route, if I'm reading that correctly.American Hardwood said:
This seems to be extremely significant. I look forward to further development.
Most of what's been presented since the beginning has been significant. The problem is people don't want to believe it and judges won't deal with it.American Hardwood said:
This seems to be extremely significant. I look forward to further development.
From my earlier post:Troutslime said:Most of what's been presented since the beginning has been significant. The problem is people don't want to believe it and judges won't deal with it.American Hardwood said:
This seems to be extremely significant. I look forward to further development.
The Arizona State Attorney General has been stepping up recently. If they have that level of detail for Maricopa County too, I think he'll prosecute.Quote:
"From this we have thus far developed precise patterns of life for 242 suspected ballot traffickers in Georgia and 202 traffickers in Arizona," True The Vote's document says. "According to the data, each trafficker went to an average of 23 ballot dropboxes."
Thanks for the update. If true this evidence should result in prosecutions.aggiehawg said:
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Figure 1: 24-hour Route in Georgia This person's route included stops at 5 organizations and 27 individual ballot drop boxes, traveling across 6 counties. Red dots represent ballot drop boxes, blue house icons (circled) represent targeted organizations, blue line represents daily travel path
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Interesting to see how this ties in with the compromised voter rolls in each state. Were the organizations using the voter rolls to complete ballots for registered voters who hadn't voted, or for those not likely to vote. Surely there is a cross reference to ballots collected from drop boxes and ballots from in-person voting. It would interesting to see how many duplicate voters were discovered in the audit and if they occurred at any of these suspected ballot drop locations.
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