*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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So, Mike Lindell is trying to hold a symposium next month where "irrefutable evidence" of all of the election fraud that occured from hacked Dominion machines by outside countries/entities, is going to be put on full display for anyone/everyone to looks at and question? and that certified cyber security folks will be there to answer these questions?

Any lawyers or IT folks think this will go anywhere?

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I would also venture to guess that the rolls were accessed in NC, Texas, PA and Wisconsin as well. Pattern slowly taking shape.

I live in NC and was waiting for the news to talk about how long it was going to take to count ballots here. The funny thing that happened was that Trump won through the additional ballots.

I wonder if things didn't work out how the Dems wanted in other states if the printers would have gone brrrrrrrr in NC.
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As incredible as it would be if Trump won Virginia, that's the one state I find the hardest to believe Biden didn't really win. Virginia is far too swampy due to proximity to DC. It's filled with Dems.

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Almost 48 percent of Virginia's 8.5 million people live in just 10 of the state's 133 counties and independent cities (a Virginia phenomenon equivalent to a county). From most populous to least, they are Fairfax, Prince William, Virginia Beach, Loudoun, Chesterfield, Henrico, Norfolk, Chesapeake, Arlington, and Richmond. A quarter of the state's population lives in just four of these countiesFairfax, Loudoun, Arlington, and Prince Williamall in the greater National Capital Region.

In 2008, Obama won 8 of these 10 counties and cities, netting him 834,392 votes, or nearly 43 percent of his statewide total. The two he lost, Virginia Beach and Chesterfield County outside Richmond, still delivered him 173,195 votes, bringing his statewide total to 51.4 percent. Obama won these same 8 jurisdictions again in 2012 by similar margins.

In 2016, Hillary Clinton managed to win 7 of these 8 counties. She narrowly lost Chesapeake to Trump, yet improved on Obama's votes, garnering 893,524, which accounted for 45 percent of her statewide vote totals.

The lesson here is that Democrats have a powerful advantage over Republicans in Virginia simply because half or more of their constituents live in just a handful of places. Going into any presidential election, a generic Democrat is assured of winning a near-majority in the Old Dominion, even in a bad year for turnout like 2016.
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Flash forward to 2020, and the facts are bleak for Republicans. Trump earned a historic 1.9 million votes and improved his vote share over 2016 totals by 231,274 votescomparable to Bush's improvement between 2000 and 2004 and more than twice as much as Mitt Romney's improvement over John McCain between 2008 and 2012. Yet he still lost the Old Dominion to Joe Biden by a staggering 451,138 votes.

Statewide, Biden increased his vote share over Clinton's 2016 figures by close to 26 percent, winning a whopping 2.4 million votestwice that won by Al Gore in 2000 and almost half-a-million votes more than Obama's 2012 record.

Of Virginia's top 10 counties Biden won all 10, netting him 1,370,414 votes, or 56.7 percent of his total votes statewide, far exceeding the 1 million votes Obama won in 2012 and the 1.1 million Clinton won in 2016. Critically, Biden flipped Virginia Beach and Chesterfield Countyheld by Republicans since 1968 and 1952, respectivelyfinding an additional 41,000 votes in Virginia Beach and another 26,000 votes in Chesterfield.
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So what role did CTCL play in the Old Dominion? Virginia was always expected to be firmly in Biden's grip, so the question isn't whether CTCL funding flipped the state but rather how much its grants aided turnout in Democratic-leaning counties.

A list of "preliminary grants" discovered online notes 38 counties and cities in Virginia that evidently received funding from CTCL. Of these, CRC has uncovered $3,968,221 in grants flowing to 38 Virginia counties and cities (including one not listed in CTCL's preliminary document), leaving at least one more jurisdiction (Hanover County) that almost certainly received some money from the group.
How these funds were spent is generally unclear. In Fairfax Countythe source of Biden's greatest vote haul and recipient of the largest yet identified CTCL grant ($1,431,950) in Virginiaelections officials used the funds to "support in-person early voting" and "vote by mail."

May 12, 2021 Update: A "CTCL COVID-19 Response Grant Report" (archived here) obtained via FOIA request shines more light on how Fairfax County spent its funds:
  • $967,294 for "temporary staffing support"
  • $59,850 for "vote-by-mail/absentee voting equipment or supplies"
  • $102,765 for "election administration equipment"
  • $54,802 for "voting materials in languages other than English"
  • $58,530 for "security for office and polling locations"
Interestingly, categories included in the CTCL form (but which Fairfax didn't apparently spend money on) include "ballot drop boxes," "drive-through voting," and "non-partisan voter education," as well as less alarming things such as "personal protective equipment" for staff and cleaning expenses. Fairfax County also applied for a 6-month extension for its grant (the report was filed in late January) to expend its remaining $187,709, which theoretically brings its CTCL funding through July 2021 and primary season for the state's coming gubernatorial election in November.
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uh, i'm not arguing who ended up winning VA, though I think the usual democratic fraud and bullying machine was working there as well as it works in Detroit, Philly, and ATL. I think Fox calling it at 1% reported results seemed premature.

...and look at the parents fighting CRT in Fairfax and Loudon counties in NoVa.. and a hated lockdown governor who once painted himself with blackface.. I think Va is going to be much more purple or even pink very soon if there is any election integrity whatsoever.
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Would seem like a HUGE undertaking.

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oh no said:

uh, i'm not arguing who ended up winning VA, though I think the usual democratic fraud and bullying machine was working there as well as it works in Detroit, Philly, and ATL. I think Fox calling it at 1% reported results seemed premature.

...and look at the parents fighting CRT in Fairfax and Loudon counties in NoVa.. and a hated lockdown governor who once painted himself with blackface.. I think Va is going to be much more purple or even pink very soon if there is any election integrity whatsoever.
Good point. CRT will be a large election issue in 2022. McAuliffe will have to tiptoe around that one, in my view. If he comes out in favor of it, I think he loses.
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Sometimes you know who won. Would you wait to call California or Massachusetts just because only 1% of the vote is in?

Now, I do think the networks were quicker to call for Biden rather than Trump.
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TRM said:

Sometimes you know who won. Would you wait to call California or Massachusetts just because only 1% of the vote is in?

Now, I do think the networks were quicker to call for Biden rather than Trump.
But when it comes to Arizona, you need to have more results from Maricopa County. That county alone is the vote in Arizona. They were still counting in Maricopa County for ten days after the election, maybe more.
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TRM said:

Sometimes you know who won. Would you wait to call California or Massachusetts just because only 1% of the vote is in?

Now, I do think the networks were quicker to call for Biden rather than Trump.

Then why wait until election night? Just put them in the bucket in September.

At some point the actual idea of voting needs to be rigorously defended. Calling a state when the other candidate leads by 20% is terrible practice. It's obvious they use the "calls" as action items and place a premium on withholding (R) calls. That alone should disqualify the networks who participated in election night coverage from having access to future early results.
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Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
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Decay said:

TRM said:

Sometimes you know who won. Would you wait to call California or Massachusetts just because only 1% of the vote is in?

Now, I do think the networks were quicker to call for Biden rather than Trump.

Then why wait until election night? Just put them in the bucket in September.

At some point the actual idea of voting needs to be rigorously defended. Calling a state when the other candidate leads by 20% is terrible practice. It's obvious they use the "calls" as action items and place a premium on withholding (R) calls. That alone should disqualify the networks who participated in election night coverage from having access to future early results.
Honestly, the candidates do that themselves. Trump knows he has no chance in MA so he doesn't campaign there. Biden knows he has no chance in ND, so he doesn't campaign there. Should that happen? No, but you have to allocate your resources efficiently.
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TRM said:

Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
Not arguing with you. We agree. Was just providing additional evidence of how dumb that call would be unless they knew the fraud was in place.

Obama never won Maricopa County. He was shellacked by 8-9 points there both times he won the national election.
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aggiehawg said:

TRM said:

Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
Not arguing with you. We agree. Was just providing additional evidence of how dumb that call would be unless they knew the fraud was in place.

Obama never won Maricopa County. He was shellacked by 8-9 points there both times he won the national election.


My point precisely - it would appear that more people knew of what was going to happen but May have had no idea on the mechanics. Maybe they didn't know fraud was at hand but maybe such overwhelming positive feedback from a parties "ground game".
I have as much faith in our elections as those in Iran.
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Ag In Ok said:

aggiehawg said:

TRM said:

Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
Not arguing with you. We agree. Was just providing additional evidence of how dumb that call would be unless they knew the fraud was in place.

Obama never won Maricopa County. He was shellacked by 8-9 points there both times he won the national election.


My point precisely - it would appear that more people knew of what was going to happen but May have had no idea on the mechanics. Maybe they didn't know fraud was at hand but maybe such overwhelming positive feedback from a parties "ground game".
I have as much faith in our elections as those in Iran.
What ground game? Biden didn't have hardly any ground game. Neither did the DNC,

But Zuckerberg did.
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ground game my assle.

biden put a lid on early every day and stayed in his basement. With Trump leading in PA polls, Biden held an election day "rally" in Scranton PA and 30 people showed up.
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oh no said:

TRM said:

oh no said:

perusing through the Nov 3 posts on this thread and was reminded that Fox also called Virginia really early for Biden, when Trump was up 53% - 47% and less than 10% of the votes counted.
I don't have an issue with that especially since the outstanding votes were DC suburb swamp votes. AZ was perplexing and not calling NC earlier was also perplexing - the latter makes me wonder if they have a vote fraud operation in NC.
calling it at 1% though? seemed a bit premature.




this thread also reminded me that Trump had a nearly 3:1 advantage over Biden in Maricopa County AZ for "election day" votes. Lined up with the massive rally crowds and parades for Trump... but of course they had to spend another week counting just enough mail-ins after election day.




The networks could've called California on September 30th...
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will25u said:




Those 50k votes likely triggered the senate runoffs, no? Perhaps we have two senators that need to resign, if these shenanigans actually happened.
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Those 50k votes likely triggered the senate runoffs, no? Perhaps we have two senators that need to resign, if these shenanigans actually happened.
For Perdue, distinct possibility. Not so much with Loeffler since Collins was also on the ballot.
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aggiehawg said:

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Those 50k votes likely triggered the senate runoffs, no? Perhaps we have two senators that need to resign, if these shenanigans actually happened.
For Perdue, distinct possibility. Not so much with Loeffler since Collins was also on the ballot.


51-49 works for me.
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VegasAg86 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Those 50k votes likely triggered the senate runoffs, no? Perhaps we have two senators that need to resign, if these shenanigans actually happened.
For Perdue, distinct possibility. Not so much with Loeffler since Collins was also on the ballot.


51-49 works for me.
Don't forget the possibility McSally won in Arizona.
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aggiehawg said:

VegasAg86 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Those 50k votes likely triggered the senate runoffs, no? Perhaps we have two senators that need to resign, if these shenanigans actually happened.
For Perdue, distinct possibility. Not so much with Loeffler since Collins was also on the ballot.


51-49 works for me.
Don't forget the possibility McSally won in Arizona.


And John James in Michigan
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oh no said:

ground game my assle.

biden put a lid on early every day and stayed in his basement. With Trump leading in PA polls, Biden held an election day "rally" in Scranton PA and 30 people showed up.


Agreed - i use the term "ground game" parenthetically as it originally meant door to door canvassing. Now i think it means buying votes, screening private communications on public platforms, and creating ballots.
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aggiehawg said:

Ag In Ok said:

aggiehawg said:

TRM said:

Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
Not arguing with you. We agree. Was just providing additional evidence of how dumb that call would be unless they knew the fraud was in place.

Obama never won Maricopa County. He was shellacked by 8-9 points there both times he won the national election.


My point precisely - it would appear that more people knew of what was going to happen but May have had no idea on the mechanics. Maybe they didn't know fraud was at hand but maybe such overwhelming positive feedback from a parties "ground game".
I have as much faith in our elections as those in Iran.
What ground game? Biden didn't have hardly any ground game. Neither did the DNC,

But Zuckerberg did.


The microscope needs to get much more powerful and more focused on Zuck/CTCL.

Especially considering that they undoubtedly had access to Facebook data which would allow them to know exactly where to target their efforts at ballot harvesting around the country while at the same time limiting or cutting off the abilities that the Trump campaign had in 2016 for 2020.

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Whether they used Facebook data or not, their "non-partisan" get out the vote efforts seem to have been limited to democrat areas. Certainly a violation of the intent of the rules for non-profit status, if not the letter.
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policywonk98 said:

aggiehawg said:

Ag In Ok said:

aggiehawg said:

TRM said:

Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
Not arguing with you. We agree. Was just providing additional evidence of how dumb that call would be unless they knew the fraud was in place.

Obama never won Maricopa County. He was shellacked by 8-9 points there both times he won the national election.


My point precisely - it would appear that more people knew of what was going to happen but May have had no idea on the mechanics. Maybe they didn't know fraud was at hand but maybe such overwhelming positive feedback from a parties "ground game".
I have as much faith in our elections as those in Iran.
What ground game? Biden didn't have hardly any ground game. Neither did the DNC,

But Zuckerberg did.


The microscope needs to get much more powerful and more focused on Zuck/CTCL.

Especially considering that they undoubtedly had access to Facebook data which would allow them to know exactly where to target their efforts at ballot harvesting around the country while at the same time limiting or cutting off the abilities that the Trump campaign had in 2016 for 2020.




Well...the people that are supposed to investigate this **** are Marxist ******s so....probably won't happen.
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VegasAg86 said:

Whether they used Facebook data or not, their "non-partisan" get out the vote efforts seem to have been limited to democrat areas. Certainly a violation of the intent of the rules for non-profit status, if not the letter.
No it was a violation of both letter and spirit. Hiding behind the terms "charity" and "nonpartisan" which few of them are, they work to subvert election laws and elections.
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Works for me. I don't know the rules or mechanics enough to point to specific violations.
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will25u said:

Would seem like a HUGE undertaking.


You wouldn't need to do every county. You can just extrapolate the county audited. So pick 1-2 for every state. Pick the bluest and reddest or the "closest" one in every county, total up the votes that shouldn't count (fraudulent vote for Biden/Trump), then take the percentage across all votes for the state.
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TRM said:

Did I say the networks should have called AZ early?
Didn't say it...just insinuated it. Oh...and your analogy is 'weak sauce'.
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will25u said:


Well...that's interesting...but will it matter?
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Not as long as the commies have control of the government. They've made corruption an art form!
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aggiehawg said:

VegasAg86 said:

Whether they used Facebook data or not, their "non-partisan" get out the vote efforts seem to have been limited to democrat areas. Certainly a violation of the intent of the rules for non-profit status, if not the letter.
No it was a violation of both letter and spirit. Hiding behind the terms "charity" and "nonpartisan" which few of them are, they work to subvert election laws and elections.


Wow, from will25u's Just the News link:

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"You know, the thing that happened with CTCL is with those agreements, if those municipalities did not follow what was in those grant agreements, they had the authority to claw back those dollars," she explained, arguing that it would have been different had the cities "been given money and had the authority to use it how they saw fit."


https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/sandy-juno-wisconsin-election-clerk-2020-election

Surely dictating election rules isn't allowed.

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Pennsylvania State Senator Doug Mastriano says he has a majority on his committee who will vote to issue subpoenas to audit elections in Philadelphia, Cuyahoga and York counties.

The audit will be similar to the Maricopa County forensic audit. Other Pennsylvania counties could also be audited.



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