*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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EDHEC Ag said:

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Anybody have a link to said new lawsuit from the unnamed plaintiffs? That guy's twitter feed is not helpful.

This looks to be the lawsuit mentioned from Phill Kline of the Amistad Project. The Reference: Case number 1:20-cv-03791 provided at the bottom is WISCONSIN VOTERS ALLIANCE et al v. PENCE et al.
Thanks, have already read that one. That twitter guy is behind the times, not to mention confused.
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Forget standing, judges have a new theory prohibiting them from having hearings on the merits.

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A Fulton County judge dismissed a Republican Party lawsuit Thursday that tried to close absentee ballot drop boxes after normal business hours.

Superior Court Judge Kimberly Esmond Adams' ruling allows voters to continue using drop boxes 24 hours a day under video surveillance until polls close for the U.S. Senate runoffs Jan. 5. She rejected the case after an online court hearing.
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But an attorney for the secretary of state's office said drop boxes are allowed to remain open at all hours under a State Election Board rule approved earlier this year.
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The lawsuit had also requested quick access to video surveillance footage of drop boxes and a court order allowing poll monitors to more closely watch elections.

Adams ruled that she doesn't have jurisdiction to hear the case because of sovereign immunity protections that prevent governments from lawsuits.
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This is getting very close to becoming a hot CW2.
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Prognightmare said:

This is getting very close to becoming a hot CW2.
So disappointed in our judicial system.

Don't really want to derail this thread but THIS infuriated me today. Feel free to start a thread if you are so inclined. I stay away from those type of debates. I'm post menopausal so I don't have a dog in the fight.
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I've pretty much extricated myself from F16 for personal reasons. You've probably noticed I haven't started new threads in a long time when I used to do 5+ a day.
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[Take a few days off for trolling - Texags Staff]
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Freedom (pre-leftism America) is too precious to give up the fight for. Not posting is fine, but I hope you are doing your best in your personal life to ensure your future generations have the best possible future.

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Stew Peters @RealStewPeters 2 minutes ago
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https://parler.com/profile/realstewpeters/posts


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I honestly feel bad for the people lapping this **** up
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GAC06 said:

I honestly feel bad for the people lapping this **** up
I'm not lapping it up. Just posting because its interesting. I've resigned myself to a horrible, horrible next 4 years
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I honestly feel bad for those that think Biden actually won fair and square.
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https://video.parler.com/D0/CM/D0CMA8eo9Oko_small.mp4
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Stew Peters @RealStewPeters 2 minutes ago
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Dropping tapes HERE in minutes!
https://parler.com/profile/realstewpeters/posts



why not immediately after getting the recordings?


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Watch the tv show "Numbers", 2007, season 3, episode 18, all about voter fraud, not random numbers from precincts, voter machines being hacked, just enough voter manipulation as not to be suspected. Of course, people are getting whacked, bad guy wanted to do it before doing it on a bigger scale. Sounds slot like 2020.
Kinda creepy. Of course they were able to prove it

And yes I am old and bored, it is a show the better half and myself can agree on, plus I seem to learn something sometimes.
I wanna see our defense pissed off, not confused, maybe a little murder in their hearts Reload12, 11/4/11
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Prognightmare said:

I've pretty much extricated myself from F16 for personal reasons. You've probably noticed I haven't started new threads in a long time when I used to do 5+ a day.
Email me.

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Vader Was Framed said:

Another L for election law guru Linny Wood. Couldn't provide the goods on Hugo working with the Dems.


love how the leftish media helpfully labels everything such as "voter uppression lawsuit".

silly me, I thought it was a "fraud suppression lawsuit"...

/sarcasm
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Vader Was Framed said:

Actually a lawyer stated that. Not the "leftist media". Plug in any 'leftist [entity]' all you want to defend his loss, but Lin's arguments here will remain absurd.

Oh good grief, quit being so obtuse. A lawyer making a clearly partisan and biased jab, isn't any less partisan and biased because he's a lawyer. Regardless of the merits of the lawsuit, describing it as a "voter suppression lawsuit" is clearly a political opinion (a very poorly thought out one) and not based on any legal framework.
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Vader Was Framed said:

Actually a lawyer stated that. Not the "leftist media". Plug in any 'leftist [entity]' all you want to defend his loss, but Lin's arguments here will remain absurd.
point is, a lefty will typically call something "voter suppression" when the more correct/accurate term should be "fraudulent vote suppression". This is a key distinction and ties in with the whole lefty labelling/pc thing which at its heart is dishonest.

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Many of their voters are dead or otherwise ineligible. So by definition, anything that suppresses fraud also suppresses the democrat vote totals.
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ravingfans said:

Vader Was Framed said:

Actually a lawyer stated that. Not the "leftist media". Plug in any 'leftist [entity]' all you want to defend his loss, but Lin's arguments here will remain absurd.
point is, a lefty will typically call something "voter suppression" when the more correct/accurate term should be "fraudulent vote suppression". This is a key distinction and ties in with the whole lefty labelling/pc thing which at its heart is dishonest.


There is no such thing as voter suppression in 2020. Dead people voted. Non-residents of the state voted. Illegal aliens voted. Felons voted. Imaginary people voted through phantom voter rolls.

The only voters who have been "suppressed" are those who voted legally. And those who voted for Trump. Sure, there are millions of legal Biden voters, too.

Not 85 million of them.
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Colorado has also found some irregularities with how the vote batches were proportionally regular. Something that can't occur without manipulation of some sort and I don't think it was divine intervention.



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The exact same constant ratio trend seen in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania is in the 2020 Colorado election returns. Colorado is one of the 29 states that use Dominion voting software, which reportedly uses voting machines accessible over the internet during voting.

Half of the 113 vote tally updates in Colorado had the exact same ratio of 40:57 moving linearly to 42:55. At the point where Donald Trump's percentage/ratio reaches 40%, 57 of the remaining 90 vote dumps have a consistent ratio overriding what should have been a naturally varying ratio.

The most damning evidence is that the applied ratio settles at the exact same ratio as the final ratio of the election.
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If there was some sort of mass manipulation (ex. Dominion), they sure as hell wouldn't make it easily detectable and would design it to be even harder to trace. They would have known these challenges and investigations were coming and they wouldn't do anything without supreme confidence in their ability to escape justice. The claim that nothing happened because a group of haphazard attorneys with little governmental support haven't been able to prove it in less than two months is disingenuous at best. The people tampering with the election wouldn't leave an easily discoverable bread crumb trail visible when scrutinized. There's way too much at stake to do that sloppily and I'm sure plenty of funds would be available to do it right. The left just wants us to "move on nothing to see here" and that's been apparent since day one. Not a single leftist gives a damn about the truth so long as it benefits them, because they have no ethical boundaries at all.
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Last time the CAMBRIA County reported votes was on Wednesday Nov. 11th 2020 at 21:50:46, ( 9:50 p.m. ) as you will see in the numbers from spreadsheet below taken from the data download with the detail of the County's 125 Precincts

Thanks to Edward Solomon I downloaded the raw data available and just worked with Cambria County ( Download at https://gofile.io/d/qZcQl6 ) ; placed the data in an Excel spreadsheet and ordered the data by date and time and took the accumulated votes for the 125 precincts from the last time available and then compared it with the data at the Cambria County PA's website.

(For each reporting time you will find in the original data download the 125 precincts accumulated total for each candidate )

If you add up the votes from the last reported time the votes were: Trump 70,777 and Biden 21,749.
Now, it Cambria County's website you can see below that the votes for Biden are 21,749 , the same as votes as the sum of the precinct votes from spreadsheet . So, you would think two things: a) because the totals match for Mr. Biden in the website and the spreadsheet, it means the downloaded data is correct, b) then the data should also match for Mr. Trump's votes

BUT NO, Mr. Trump's votes are different the totals from spreadsheet are 70,777 vs the Cambria's website that shows 48,092.

There is a difference of 22,685 between the reported votes and official votes on the County's web site.
Cambria County is in Pennsylvania. Follow the links for the raw data.

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aggiehawg said:

ravingfans said:

Vader Was Framed said:

Actually a lawyer stated that. Not the "leftist media". Plug in any 'leftist [entity]' all you want to defend his loss, but Lin's arguments here will remain absurd.
point is, a lefty will typically call something "voter suppression" when the more correct/accurate term should be "fraudulent vote suppression". This is a key distinction and ties in with the whole lefty labelling/pc thing which at its heart is dishonest.


There is no such thing as voter suppression in 2020. Dead people voted. Non-residents of the state voted. Illegal aliens voted. Felons voted. Imaginary people voted through phantom voter rolls.

The only voters who have been "suppressed" are those who voted legally. And those who voted for Trump. Sure, there are millions of legal Biden voters, too.

Not 85 million of them.
Trump's Fraud Claims Died in Court, but the Myth of Stolen Elections Lives On
(NYT for those that don't want to click)

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For years, Republicans have used the specter of cheating as a reason to impose barriers to ballot access. A definitive debunking of claims of wrongdoing in 2020 has not changed that message.

President Trump's baseless and desperate claims of a stolen election over the last seven weeks the most aggressive promotion of "voter fraud" in American history failed to get any traction in courts across seven states, or come anywhere close to reversing the loss he suffered to Joseph R. Biden Jr.

But the effort has led to at least one unexpected and profoundly different result: A thorough debunking of the sorts of voter fraud claims that Republicans have used to roll back voting rights for the better part of the young century.

In making their case in real courts and the court of public opinion, Mr. Trump and his allies have trotted out a series of tropes and canards similar to those Republicans have pushed to justify laws that in many cases made voting disproportionately harder for Blacks and Hispanics, who largely support Democrats.
Their allegations that thousands of people "double voted" by assuming other identities at polling booths echoed those that have previously been cited as a reason to impose strict new voter identification laws.

Their assertion that large numbers of noncitizens cast illegal votes for Mr. Biden matched claims Republicans have made to argue for harsh new "proof of citizenship" requirements for voter registration.

And their tales about large numbers of cheaters casting ballots in the name of "dead voters" were akin to those several states have used to conduct aggressive "purges" of voting lists that wrongfully slated tens of thousands of registrations for termination.

After bringing some 60 lawsuits, and even offering financial incentive for information about fraud, Mr. Trump and his allies have failed to prove definitively any case of illegal voting on behalf of their opponent in court not a single case of an undocumented immigrant casting a ballot, a citizen double voting, nor any credible evidence that legions of the voting dead gave Mr. Biden a victory that wasn't his.

"It really should put a death knell in this narrative that has been peddled around claims of vote fraud that just have never been substantiated," said Kristen Clarke, the president of the National Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, a nonprofit legal group, and a former Justice Department attorney whose work included voting cases. "They put themselves on trial, and they failed."

Yet there are no signs that those defeats in the courts will change the trajectory of the ongoing efforts to restrict voting that have been core to conservative politics since the disputed 2000 election, which coincided with heightened party concerns that demographic shifts would favor Democrats in the popular vote.

The false notions have lived on in Mr. Trump's Twitter and Facebook feeds; on the television programming of Fox News, Newsmax and One America News Network; and in statehouse hearings where Republican leaders have contemplated more restrictive voting laws based on the rejected allegations.
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And I think that's correct. If anything all the Court losses have galvanized the right to further restrict voting, which has to be counted as R win even if POTUS doesn't manage to flip the script.
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aggiehawg said:

Colorado has also found some irregularities with how the vote batches were proportionally regular. Something that can't occur without manipulation of some sort and I don't think it was divine intervention.



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The exact same constant ratio trend seen in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania is in the 2020 Colorado election returns. Colorado is one of the 29 states that use Dominion voting software, which reportedly uses voting machines accessible over the internet during voting.

Half of the 113 vote tally updates in Colorado had the exact same ratio of 40:57 moving linearly to 42:55. At the point where Donald Trump's percentage/ratio reaches 40%, 57 of the remaining 90 vote dumps have a consistent ratio overriding what should have been a naturally varying ratio.

The most damning evidence is that the applied ratio settles at the exact same ratio as the final ratio of the election.
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This is an incredibly damning video. How anyone can watch it and claim there wasn't something shady going on with the dominion voting system is either lying or being intentionally obtuse. I will never believe the Democrats are not trying to steal this election.
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Ag87H2O said:

aggiehawg said:

Colorado has also found some irregularities with how the vote batches were proportionally regular. Something that can't occur without manipulation of some sort and I don't think it was divine intervention.



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The exact same constant ratio trend seen in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania is in the 2020 Colorado election returns. Colorado is one of the 29 states that use Dominion voting software, which reportedly uses voting machines accessible over the internet during voting.

Half of the 113 vote tally updates in Colorado had the exact same ratio of 40:57 moving linearly to 42:55. At the point where Donald Trump's percentage/ratio reaches 40%, 57 of the remaining 90 vote dumps have a consistent ratio overriding what should have been a naturally varying ratio.

The most damning evidence is that the applied ratio settles at the exact same ratio as the final ratio of the election.
LINK
This is an incredibly damning video. How anyone can watch it and claim there wasn't something shady going on with the dominion voting system is either lying or being intentionally obtuse. I will never believe the Democrats are not trying to steal this election.
Seems off though.

see screen shot


how are those percentages being obtained from 21 votes?

11 of 21 is 52.4%, 12 of 21 is 57.1%

Sure, it sounds damning, but it doesn't seem accurate.
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Reading comprehension is apparently difficult. Lin Wood did not lose on the merits in the GA case. The court did not allow an evidentiary hearing, The judge did mot like the allegations and labeled them as speculative without hearing the case. Once again a judge bailed by denying STANDING.
I hate tu. It's in my blood.
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62strat said:

Ag87H2O said:

aggiehawg said:

Colorado has also found some irregularities with how the vote batches were proportionally regular. Something that can't occur without manipulation of some sort and I don't think it was divine intervention.



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The exact same constant ratio trend seen in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania is in the 2020 Colorado election returns. Colorado is one of the 29 states that use Dominion voting software, which reportedly uses voting machines accessible over the internet during voting.

Half of the 113 vote tally updates in Colorado had the exact same ratio of 40:57 moving linearly to 42:55. At the point where Donald Trump's percentage/ratio reaches 40%, 57 of the remaining 90 vote dumps have a consistent ratio overriding what should have been a naturally varying ratio.

The most damning evidence is that the applied ratio settles at the exact same ratio as the final ratio of the election.
LINK
This is an incredibly damning video. How anyone can watch it and claim there wasn't something shady going on with the dominion voting system is either lying or being intentionally obtuse. I will never believe the Democrats are not trying to steal this election.
Seems off though.

see screen shot


how are those percentages being obtained from 21 votes?

11 of 21 is 52.4%, 12 of 21 is 57.1%

Sure, it sounds damning, but it doesn't seem accurate.
Don't know if this is the case, but I have heard multiple reports of votes not in whole numbers being counted. For instance - in a hypothetical case of 100 votes cast, Trump 41.3 votes, Biden 58.7 votes.
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Some more from the video

61 votes with 40.6% going to T
119 with 40.6%
244 with 41.2%
645 with 41.2%


none of these round to what they say they do assuming a whole number of votes. example, 48 votes of 119 is 40.336% and 49 of 119 is 41.176%. They show it as 40.600%

They say there are 113 vote batches in CO, but they are only showing about 50 of them, and between those, there are many different small variations of percentages, and these percentages aren't correct.

Do precise math to 3 decimal places on all of them, and all of sudden this chart looks very different:



They conveniently not only rounded off to one decimal point, but you can't even get those rounded decimals using whole number division.
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Ag87H said:

Don't know if this is the case, but I have heard multiple reports of votes not in whole numbers being counted. For instance - in a hypothetical case of 100 votes cast, Trump 41.3 votes, Biden 58.7 votes.
This is definitely an entirely different discussion if true.

But they don't show that data, so how are we to know?
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