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Based on what development, I wonder? Is this opinion or fact?

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in before twitter red marks it!

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Finally AZ is over.

Cobra39

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You have to understand...we are witnessing a coup before our very eyes...

It is a civil coup so far, but it is still a coup...

Coup's rarely end peacefully, regardless of how they start...

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My neighbor voted for Biden. Want me to shoot him?

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Just report him to the HOA for some bull**** violation. That's more painful anyway.

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Jesus, just shoot the poor ******* and end his misery. I take back my previous statement of not shooting first if this happens.

Barring a court decision miracle, PA is gone anyway.

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I just watched the presser...He said "...based on the trends we're seeing now, Arizona's 11 EV's will be for Donald Trump."

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I agree...based on the trends that have been posted to date...

The updates are slow to come, but when they do, the margin always shrinks...

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Finally AZ is over.

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I really hope this happens but I wouldn't take anything David Bossie says too seriously.

I agree. Violence is beyond crazy at this point. If you assume that Trump loses then right now the Republicans (assuming we hold the 2 GA senate seats) are in a decent position politically. They have kept all but 1 senate seat. They have reduced the Democrats margin in the house to under 10 seats which makes it totally ungovernable. They have expanded their state legislature majorities and maintained their Governorships.

This puts the Republicans in an excellent spot for reapportionment and control of the redistricting process. In the 2022 midterms the Republicans would be poised for takeover of the House and quite possibly functional control of both the House and Senate.

In turn while Biden/Harris would be in the White House it is mainly due to dislike of President Trump not because of their overwhelming appeal to their voters. They will have achieved the office at the expense of the election's integrity and the other 49% of the American people will regard them as illegitimate. It won't take long for this to become a very unpopular administration and be seen as a pyrrhic victory.

Whoever becomes president will be considered illegitimate by the other side and the administration will become unpopular. This will more than likely lead to the out of power party winning the White House in 2024. Maybe we want the Democrats to have it this time.

All this to say. Now is not the time to get crazy. This is not 2008 where the Republicans were completely and utterly wiped out politically. Trump pointed they way towards a better political coalition and the Republicans need to continue working towards it. The Democrats think they are on the winning side of history but I think things are turning in an unexpected way. This election is just a beginning. Don't lose sight of the big picture and certainly don't act like the Democrats after 2016.

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Just sayin. Bosse saying it doesn't get us any closer to the real result.

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I just got off a conference call with Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien.

This is his take at this time:

• Donald Trump is alive and well.
• The Trump campaign is alive well.
• He is 100% certain Trump will win Arizona.
• He says Georgia and North Carolina are closer than they would like to see but Trump will win them.
• He says the campaign has confidence that Trump will win Pennsylvania but could be as razor-thin as 5,000 votes.
• He says Democrats are lying, cheating and stealing. He provided this number 888 630-1776 to report any election irregularities.

Deputy campaign manager Justin Clark, also on the call, says the chaos around late votes and late tabulations was specifically planned out for some time by Democrats in an attempt to steal the election.

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Damn, TexAgs does know stuff

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Do you trust me or the clown on FoxNews?

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I trust the AZ vote count that continues to shrink with every little update...

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I just watched the presser...He said "...based on the trends we're seeing now, Arizona's 11 EV's will be for Donald Trump."

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I agree...based on the trends that have been posted to date...

The updates are slow to come, but when they do, the margin always shrinks...

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So the tweet wasn't exactly right? I hate it when tweets aren't gospel.

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Yes the Supreme Court and Senate should create a tie on legislation protection. But what is going to change election integrity wise to make you think PA / AZ / GA / MI / WI will not be up for the same thing again next year? Also the DOJ / FBI / IRS will be a real force to overcome. You can't just hold serve down 4-1 and expect to win.

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If you say PA is going to Biden, please provide math.

Others have done the courtesy for Trump.

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Outstanding ballots in Philadelphia as of 3:39PM CST: 92,128
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Philadelphia County: 17K Trump / 245K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 80K

Outstanding Ballots in Allegheny: 35,976
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Allegheny County: 59K Trump / 249K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 22K

There's 102K pickup without considering another 212K ballots that will still lean Biden.

Strictly based on math and no lawsuits, PA is gone.

Because Republicans control a lot of those legislatures. They will drop the hammer after this election.

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I just got off a conference call with Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien.

This is his take at this time:

• Donald Trump is alive and well.
• The Trump campaign is alive well.
• He is 100% certain Trump will win Arizona.
• He says Georgia and North Carolina are closer than they would like to see but Trump will win them.
• He says the campaign has confidence that Trump will win Pennsylvania but could be as razor-thin as 5,000 votes.
• He says Democrats are lying, cheating and stealing. He provided this number 888 630-1776 to report any election irregularities.

Deputy campaign manager Justin Clark, also on the call, says the chaos around late votes and late tabulations was specifically planned out for some time by Democrats in an attempt to steal the election.

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Damn, TexAgs does know stuff

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If they had proof of this, it would be pretty damn glorious.

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If you say PA is going to Biden, please provide math.

Others have done the courtesy for Trump.

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Outstanding ballots in Philadelphia as of 3:39PM CST: 92,128
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Philadelphia County: 17K Trump / 245K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 80K

Outstanding Ballots in Allegheny: 35,976
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Allegheny County: 59K Trump / 249K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 22K

There's 102K pickup without considering another 212K ballots that will still lean Biden.

Strictly based on math and no lawsuits, PA is gone.

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Ridiculous numbers.

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If you say PA is going to Biden, please provide math.

Others have done the courtesy for Trump.

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Outstanding ballots in Philadelphia as of 3:39PM CST: 92,128
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Philadelphia County: 17K Trump / 245K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 80K

Outstanding Ballots in Allegheny: 35,976
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Allegheny County: 59K Trump / 249K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 22K

There's 102K pickup without considering another 212K ballots that will still lean Biden.

Strictly based on math and no lawsuits, PA is gone.

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Ridiculous numbers.

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Which part.

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If you say PA is going to Biden, please provide math.

Others have done the courtesy for Trump.

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Outstanding ballots in Philadelphia as of 3:39PM CST: 92,128
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Philadelphia County: 17K Trump / 245K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 80K

Outstanding Ballots in Allegheny: 35,976
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Allegheny County: 59K Trump / 249K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 22K

There's 102K pickup without considering another 212K ballots that will still lean Biden.

Strictly based on math and no lawsuits, PA is gone.

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Ridiculous numbers.

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Which part.

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Sorry, not talking about your math...talking about the likelihood of these percentages we keep seeing.

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Yes the Supreme Court and Senate should create a tie on legislation protection. But what is going to change election integrity wise to make you think PA / AZ / GA / MI / WI will not be up for the same thing again next year? Also the DOJ / FBI / IRS will be a real force to overcome. You can't just hold serve down 4-1 and expect to win.

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Need to implement a Federal Election Standard that all states must follow. You can allow them a little leeway to do certain things differently but you create specific rules regarding acceptable ballots (in person, mail-in, etc...), cutoff times, counting/reporting deadlines, count/polling observation protocol, registration, identification, etc... You don't make the actual election more difficult for those running it but you make it significantly more difficult for anyone to cheat.

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If you say PA is going to Biden, please provide math.

Others have done the courtesy for Trump.

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Outstanding ballots in Philadelphia as of 3:39PM CST: 92,128
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Philadelphia County: 17K Trump / 245K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 80K

Outstanding Ballots in Allegheny: 35,976
Previous allocation of Mail In Ballots in Allegheny County: 59K Trump / 249K Biden. Expected Future Pickup for Biden: 22K

There's 102K pickup without considering another 212K ballots that will still lean Biden.

Strictly based on math and no lawsuits, PA is gone.

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Ridiculous numbers.

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Which part.

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Sorry, not talking about your math...talking about the likelihood of these percentages we keep seeing.

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Gotcha. It just comes down to the campaign strategies unfortunately. Biden and the Ds leaned hard on vote early by mail, especially in PA. This was to be expected I think everyone just got carried away at 10PM on 11/3 when the in person votes looked so strong R.

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Barring a court decision miracle, PA is gone anyway.

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Yeah, it won't matter if he wins AZ, NC and Georgia. Penn is going to go to Biden by 200k votes. He's going to have to win Penn in court, but MSM will call the election for Biden tonight.

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So? MSM calling it doesn't mean crap. Just more noise and nonsense from the Dem propaganda machine signifying nothing.

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Yes the Supreme Court and Senate should create a tie on legislation protection. But what is going to change election integrity wise to make you think PA / AZ / GA / MI / WI will not be up for the same thing again next year? Also the DOJ / FBI / IRS will be a real force to overcome. You can't just hold serve down 4-1 and expect to win.

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Need to implement a Federal Election Standard that all states must follow. You can allow them a little leeway to do certain things differently but you create specific rules regarding acceptable ballots (in person, mail-in, etc...), cutoff times, counting/reporting deadlines, count/polling observation protocol, registration, identification, etc... You don't make the actual election more difficult for those running it but you make it significantly more difficult for anyone to cheat.

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Yes and how are they going to pass this legislation of a national standard (i think it is constitutional based right of the states to have control but let's assume it's not). Biden will veto anything he doesn't like. The house isn't going to budge unless there is a R +10 majority. The SC won't legislate for conservatism.

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I just got off a conference call with Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien.

This is his take at this time:

• Donald Trump is alive and well.
• The Trump campaign is alive well.
• He is 100% certain Trump will win Arizona.
• He says Georgia and North Carolina are closer than they would like to see but Trump will win them.
• He says the campaign has confidence that Trump will win Pennsylvania but could be as razor-thin as 5,000 votes.
• He says Democrats are lying, cheating and stealing. He provided this number 888 630-1776 to report any election irregularities.

Deputy campaign manager Justin Clark, also on the call, says the chaos around late votes and late tabulations was specifically planned out for some time by Democrats in an attempt to steal the election.

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I have been praying morning and night for Trump victory and to defeat the lies and deceit.

Boerne, your math doesn't consider any votes that might be tossed, right? I wonder if the campaign is banking on a certain number that they assume will be tossed b/c received after 8pm/no postmark/etc.

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Barring a court decision miracle, PA is gone anyway.

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Yeah, it won't matter if he wins AZ, NC and Georgia. Penn is going to go to Biden by 200k votes. He's going to have to win Penn in court, but MSM will call the election for Biden tonight.

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So? MSM calling it doesn't mean crap. Just more noise and nonsense from the Dem propaganda machine signifying nothing.

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That's a million vote swing by mail-in.

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Yes the Supreme Court and Senate should create a tie on legislation protection. But what is going to change election integrity wise to make you think PA / AZ / GA / MI / WI will not be up for the same thing again next year? Also the DOJ / FBI / IRS will be a real force to overcome. You can't just hold serve down 4-1 and expect to win.

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Need to implement a Federal Election Standard that all states must follow. You can allow them a little leeway to do certain things differently but you create specific rules regarding acceptable ballots (in person, mail-in, etc...), cutoff times, counting/reporting deadlines, count/polling observation protocol, registration, identification, etc... You don't make the actual election more difficult for those running it but you make it significantly more difficult for anyone to cheat.

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Im for this, applies to elections to Federal Office.

FbgTxAg said:

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So is Arizona going red?











He he he

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/why-north-carolinas-election-results-wont-be-final-another-week/RWXKFF5VGVDNDJWNNSGMMK2TNM/

I haven't looked at this thread in several hours, but we need to clarify the North Carolina situation.

The reason they are holding up finalizing the election is that there are 40,000 provisional ballots already cast and 116,000 potential mail in ballots left. They say potential because these are ballots that were initially requested but not turned in. Because of the court order allowing them to accept ballots after election day so long as they were stamped on time, they are waiting to make sure a significant portion does not get turned in before they can certify. North Carolina election officials believe some of these people chose to vote in person instead (which will be cross checked) and some chose not to vote. Some may have chosen to put their ballots in the mail on Election Day. At the end of the day though there are not going to be 116,000 mail ins. The counties won't finalize their results until next Thursday or Friday.

Historically in North Carolina less than half of provisional ballots end up being approved. They are screened county by county by a bipartisan committee. North Carolina has signature matching laws as well as some other things that can cause a ballot to be tossed out.

Tillis is up by about 96,000 votes. I think he is fairly safe.