*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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In reply to policywonk98 • 8:35a, 11/4/20
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historyrepeats said:



Somebody will need to start collecting all of the weird actions being taken by officials and point to the laws that govern these actions.

Taking a one day break from reporting?

Where exactly does Nevada law state they can just take a day of silence when the vote is to close?

And if is law, why?

I think COVID showed us laws don't matter anymore.
"What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." Thomas Jefferson
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In reply to MooreTrucker • 8:37a, 11/4/20
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MooreTrucker said:
But is 80/20 a vertical line with no slant whatsoever?


Yes. They're ALL vertical lines because they're reported in discrete amounts at discrete times. If you could zoom in, it's a giant stair step graph. It looks slanted from afar because the increments are mostly very small, but if you could zoom in they'd all be vertical. Those are most likely large batches of mail in ballots being reported, and we may see more.
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In reply to SLAM • 8:38a, 11/4/20
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Completely legitimate cheating definitely.


That's precincts, not votes. Not all precincts have the same number of votes.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 8:38a, 11/4/20
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
I don't think anyone here is Hitler for supporting Trump. And especially not you, who I know is a good Aggie and a Star Wars fan.

It's fine. the mood is testy so it came across negatively more than jocular. Perhaps due to your tendency to show up here to gloat.

The home team here is certainly the Aggies in football and Rs in politics. and yes I see that phrase used occasionally in politics.

Personally I never say that for football (that I recall) or politics - it's condescending.

Moving on.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 8:38a, 11/4/20
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Eliminatus said:
gigemtrev said:
historyrepeats said:


Why??
No ****, What the hell does waiting accomplish at all? I feel like I am taking crazy pills or something.

JUST COUNT THE DAMN VOTES AND BE DONE WITH IT

Unless there is more ****ery afoot of course.....

Where was it that they ran out of printer ink?

I think Wisconsin.
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In reply to Tom Kazansky 2012 • 8:41a, 11/4/20
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
Just not seeing MI flipping at this point.

I can see the scenario he is painting but I think it is through red tinted glasses and not grounded in reality. Dem writers did the same thing in '16.
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In reply to Jbob04 • 8:41a, 11/4/20
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UTExan said:
Jbob04 said:
Y'all need to give up and quit having hope. The election has been stolen and there isn't a damn thing we or anybody else can do about. The Democrats are above the law. The last four years should have told you that this was going to happen in this election. They were never going to let him win.


God's got this, regardless of what man says.

I don't buy this. I'm a believer but God has turned his back on us and is letting us destroy ourselves. My faith has never been lower.
Let me guess you never read the text.
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8:42a, 11/4/20
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The crazy thing is, it looks like he'll lose even after getting Ohio and Florida.
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In reply to GEA89 • 8:43a, 11/4/20
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GEA89 said:
maroon19 said:
I know Americans can be dumb but wow, you take the cake


It used to surprise me how many idiots they are here but to be honest, all you have to do is watch the news, it's not surprising anymore. The Europeans are pretty much spot on, we are very stupid Americans
Well, I guess the good thing is that we are moving closer and closer to European stupidity so we will all be stupid together.
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In reply to Tom Kazansky 2012 • 8:44a, 11/4/20
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.
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In reply to GEA89 • 8:45a, 11/4/20
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maroon19 said:
I know Americans can be dumb but wow, you take the cake


It used to surprise me how many idiots they are here but to be honest, all you have to do is watch the news, it's not surprising anymore. The Europeans are pretty much spot on, we are very stupid Americans
Feel free to move. BTW those same intelligent Euro's that caused two world wars in the last century. Yes that was brilliant.

Any other dumb comments you would like to offer up.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 8:45a, 11/4/20
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The crazy thing is, it looks like he'll lose even after getting Ohio and Florida.


I hate to say I told you so, but...

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3150966/replies/57758403

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bmks270 said:
texaglurkerguy said:
1) the 538 model does not claim a Biden win is certain, only that it's likely.

2) all Biden has to do to win the election is defend the 2016 map and flip MI, WI, and PA. If you're going by PredictIt, he's poised to do just that as well as pick up AZ.


The last candidate to win the election and not win Florida or Ohio was JFK in 1960.

I doubt Biden can win those states without also winning Ohio.


Correlation != Causation. You've given your own proof that the election can be won without those two states, and as others have pointed out, there is another probable scenario where Biden wins without them.


Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona were enough apparently. PA may not even matter.
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In reply to Coby • 8:46a, 11/4/20
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cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.
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8:46a, 11/4/20
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For those looking for wishful thoughts....

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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 8:47a, 11/4/20
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ABATTBQ11 said:
ABATTBQ11 said:
The crazy thing is, it looks like he'll lose even after getting Ohio and Florida.


I hate to say I told you so, but...

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3150966/replies/57758403

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ABATTBQ11 said:
bmks270 said:
texaglurkerguy said:
1) the 538 model does not claim a Biden win is certain, only that it's likely.

2) all Biden has to do to win the election is defend the 2016 map and flip MI, WI, and PA. If you're going by PredictIt, he's poised to do just that as well as pick up AZ.


The last candidate to win the election and not win Florida or Ohio was JFK in 1960.

I doubt Biden can win those states without also winning Ohio.


Correlation != Causation. You've given your own proof that the election can be won without those two states, and as others have pointed out, there is another probable scenario where Biden wins without them.


You are a miserable troll this morning.
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In reply to Just an Ag • 8:47a, 11/4/20
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If Nevada is razor thin, WHY DID THEY STOP COUNTING THE VOTES
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8:48a, 11/4/20
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The media will treat this as an edict if the people when in all likelihood Biden or truly Harris, won a very tightly contested election. They will never acknowledge that trump entered with a greater "mandate" than Biden.

China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea must all be thrilled with the outcome. America is back to the table giving away our future.
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8:49a, 11/4/20
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US Presidential Election 2020 - Odds To Win
11/5/2012:00 AM

Winner


  • Joe Biden -475
  • Donald Trump +340


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8:49a, 11/4/20
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So, AZ is 98% in with Biden 100k votes ahead.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 8:49a, 11/4/20
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ABATTBQ11 said:
MooreTrucker said:
But is 80/20 a vertical line with no slant whatsoever?


Yes. They're ALL vertical lines because they're reported in discrete amounts at discrete times. If you could zoom in, it's a giant stair step graph. It looks slanted from afar because the increments are mostly very small, but if you could zoom in they'd all be vertical. Those are most likely large batches of mail in ballots being reported, and we may see more.

Yes, but those large batches were 100% Biden. It's most noticeable with Wisconsin.

I'm not saying it's fraud, but it doesn't look good when they stopped counting then dropped a huge number that is exclusively Biden, or very close to it. **** like that is how this damn thing gets drug out and brought to the courts.
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In reply to chase128 • 8:49a, 11/4/20
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chase128 said:
If Nevada is razor thin, WHY DID THEY STOP COUNTING THE VOTES


Because they want to make it look like biden is the winner in an undecided election.
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In reply to Coby • 8:49a, 11/4/20
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


unless what happened in Georgia happens in other states where an extra 100,000 were "accidentally" added to the tally.
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In reply to chase128 • 8:50a, 11/4/20
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chase128 said:
If Nevada is razor thin, WHY DID THEY STOP COUNTING THE VOTES

Yea, I don't get it. PA stops counting votes last night when other states had no problems completing there's. Now you close for the day in NV? Not sure I've ever seen these play out on Election Day before.
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In reply to policywonk98 • 8:51a, 11/4/20
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policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.
WI is done and gone. He needs MI, PA, NC and GA.

Anything less and he loses.

Cuz even getting AZ or NV won't offset MI for example. Although both would but that is unlikely.


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In reply to policywonk98 • 8:51a, 11/4/20
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policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.


Hes down in MI though..
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 8:53a, 11/4/20
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Zombie Jon Snow said:
policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.
WI is done and gone. He needs MI, PA, NC and GA.

Anything less and he loses.

Cuz even getting AZ or NV won't offset MI for example. Although both would but that is unlikely.




False. He can lose MI if he wins AZ or NV
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In reply to Ryan34 • 8:53a, 11/4/20
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Ryan34 said:
ABATTBQ11 said:
MooreTrucker said:
But is 80/20 a vertical line with no slant whatsoever?


Yes. They're ALL vertical lines because they're reported in discrete amounts at discrete times. If you could zoom in, it's a giant stair step graph. It looks slanted from afar because the increments are mostly very small, but if you could zoom in they'd all be vertical. Those are most likely large batches of mail in ballots being reported, and we may see more.

Yes, but those large batches were 100% Biden. It's most noticeable with Wisconsin.

I'm not saying it's fraud, but it doesn't look good when they stopped counting then dropped a huge number that is exclusively Biden, or very close to it. **** like that is how this damn thing gets drug out and brought to the courts.


Maybe not 100%, but heavily tilted in his favor, which we knew coming in. I could see it being plausible.
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In reply to Aggies1322 • 8:55a, 11/4/20
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Aggies1322 said:
policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.


Hes down in MI though..


Only 16k now. He's gained 4k in the last hour, but that will be hard to surmount at this point. I'm not optimistic.
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In reply to Aggies1322 • 8:55a, 11/4/20
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Aggies1322 said:
policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.


Hes down in MI though..


Right. This is his argument, not mine. I was just providing clarity that the writer was not counting WI, AZ, and NV for the Trump win.

He's making the argument about MI that others are making about AZ. Where the votes are left seem to be from enough Trump favored areas that he can overcome the deficit but barely.
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In reply to Ags4DaWin • 8:55a, 11/4/20
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That was Virginia
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Aggies1322 said:
Zombie Jon Snow said:
policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.
WI is done and gone. He needs MI, PA, NC and GA.

Anything less and he loses.

Cuz even getting AZ or NV won't offset MI for example. Although both would but that is unlikely.




False. He can lose MI if he wins AZ or NV

Hmmm. Yes I thought it was 270 with MI, PA, NC, GA but.....i was off somewhere.....

213 now

AK +3
PA +20
NC +15
GA +16

that makes 267

then AZ +11 or NV +6 does it.

ok

but still none of GA, NC or PA can flip if MI goes Biden along with WI.
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AZ now shows 98% and Biden leading by 93K.
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 8:59a, 11/4/20
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Zombie Jon Snow said:
policywonk98 said:
cobizzle said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/04/i-stayed-up-to-track-the-election-returns-so-you-wouldnt-have-to-heres-my-report-n274813
That sounds great and all, but the explanations lack the detail needed to convince me Trump can retake Wisconsin and Michigan. Especially if most of their remaining votes are absentee, which I'm not sure of.


He doesn't give Wisconsin to Trump in his Tally. He leaves it undecided. AZ and NV also not in the tally.

He's saying Trump wins without WI, AZ, and NV by winning MI and PA.
WI is done and gone. He needs MI, PA, NC and GA.

Anything less and he loses.

Cuz even getting AZ or NV won't offset MI for example. Although both would but that is unlikely.


Wrong. He can get NV, PA, GA and NC to get to 270.
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