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Wisconsin Election Clerk Says Zuckerberg-Funded Group May Have Violated State Law https://t.co/gBanY9jkLv

— TheLeoTerrell (@TheLeoTerrell) June 24, 2021

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IIRC, CTCL and Zuckerberg had a clause for that. They expressly disavowed any knowledge of the election laws applicable to the locality and put the onus on the anus of the election entity signing the contract.

"You guys know whether this is legal, right?"

aggiehawg said:

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will25u said:

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Wisconsin Election Clerk Says Zuckerberg-Funded Group May Have Violated State Law https://t.co/gBanY9jkLv

— TheLeoTerrell (@TheLeoTerrell) June 24, 2021

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IIRC, CTCL and Zuckerberg had a clause for that. They expressly disavowed any knowledge of the election laws applicable to the locality and put the onus on the anus of the election entity signing the contract.

"You guys know whether this is legal, right?"

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I liked this from the article...

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"As we got closer to the November election," she said, "we found out that this outside group had come in and was basically trying to redo our forms and documents that we use statewide. And these people were from out of state and had no business doing that."

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Makes you wonder about the claims of the forms being read improperly by the machines so a "person" had to determine who someone voted for.

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Wisconsin Election Clerk Says Zuckerberg-Funded Group May Have Violated State Law https://t.co/gBanY9jkLv

— TheLeoTerrell (@TheLeoTerrell) June 24, 2021

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will25u, thanks for the post

"onus on the anus"

Have you ever used that in any of your court proceedings? Seems it could be appropriate for any number of incidents LOL

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will25u said:

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Wisconsin Election Clerk Says Zuckerberg-Funded Group May Have Violated State Law https://t.co/gBanY9jkLv

— TheLeoTerrell (@TheLeoTerrell) June 24, 2021

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IIRC, CTCL and Zuckerberg had a clause for that. They expressly disavowed any knowledge of the election laws applicable to the locality and put the onus on the anus of the election entity signing the contract.

"You guys know whether this is legal, right?"

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IIRC, the grants had "clawback" provisions for if the counties that were awarded the money didnt agree to break their own election laws with stupid **** like unsupervised ballot "drop boxes", etc.

They were supposed to be video'd to make sure they were "protected" but no video footage was ever recorded or produced. Absolute joke.

The order is HERE.

The county, and its subagency Board of Registrations and Elections are dismissed on the grounds of sovereign immunity* but the individuals who worked for them are named as respondents.

The suit continues meaning the discovery can continue, is how I read it.

*I disagree that the Fulton County did not waive their sovereign immunity claims as the judge concludes. He is putting a burden on petitioners to prove a very clear waiver and says sovereign immunity is not an affirmative defense wherein the burden would be on the one asserting it to prove it applies in case at bar. I would submit that a written waiver is not needed when the issue is not raised in a timely manner and after those agencies have fully participated in evidentiary hearings through counsel over the course of over six months. In the end it becomes a question of what constitutes a waiver under substantive law and what is a waiver under procedural law. Judge Amero ignores the procedural waiver. He should have addressed it more clearly.

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This is a partial theory question because it will never happen, but since so many folks are gung ho to remove sovereign immunity from our nations LEO's (notice they don't do it to the FBI), would it be possible for remove sovereign immunity to all state and federal officials?

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Congress has the power and has already waived sovereign immunity such as the 1946 passage of the Federal Tort Claims Act.

From a purely practical standpoint, abolishing sovereign immunity altogether would have a bad result as the court system would be overwhelmed.

I am baffled by Amero's decision in some respects, particularly how short sighted it is and doubt it would be extended to other cases besides an election related case. And I have repeatedly bemoaned the state of our election laws as being an unholy mess seemingly never able to provide a remedy, in this case just a simple declaratory judgment saying somebody screwed up, to address lawlessnes and fraud in our elections. Sovereign immunity is just a very small part of the problems in election laws.

ETA: The next move will be the individual respondents added by the judge will assert their "official" sovereign immunity and no direct causation to the issues raised about the ballots.

Gracias!

In a fairly recent interview, Marjorie Taylor Greene made a comment suggesting most of the elected folks on Capitol Hill either couldn't get a job in the private sector, or wouldn't be able to have success. I agree with her. As such, and due indirectly to sovereign immunity, DC is full of professional busy bodies.

Had not seen this anywhere before so SIAP:

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Emails obtained by CNN reveal how the Biden campaign pressured Facebook to censor President Donald Trump before the 2020 election.

The messages reveal how Biden campaign officials repeatedly insisted that Facebook remove information that it deemed to be 'violent rhetoric', a concern that seemed to be absent during months of leftists rioting and burning down entire city blocks throughout the summer.

After a deluge of public and private complaints by members of Biden's team and other Democrats, a former Biden campaign staffer said Facebook "essentially did nothing" in response.
The focus was primarily on the official Team Trump account, with Biden officials infuriated that Facebook didn't remove enough videos that warned people of upcoming election fraud.
Gee, I wonder why they were concerned about that.

"It was the most frustrating series of conversations," a Biden aide said. "We went to Facebook with a series of letters, public complaints, private emails and all throughout, they essentially did nothing."

Naturally, CNN spins the story as an example of how Facebook failed to clamp down on "misinformation," despite the social network giant banning many of Trump's most prominent supporters before the election and engaging in industrial-scale levels of censorship of pro-Trump content.

"Not only the election but also the January 6 breach in Washington DC are thrown in as yet more evidence that Facebook was not diligent enough in suppressing and censoring information, because it allowed protesters to use it to plan their activities (at the time, though, legacy media like CNN accused independent alternative platforms as hubs for this, leading the charge in what resulted in wiping some of them off the social media map)," writes Didi Rankovic.

CNN's narrative is to blame Facebook for not censoring enough and scolding it for facilitating the January 6th "insurrection," despite the MSM initially blaming the likes of Gab and Parler for the incident at the Capitol Building.

"Fears are growing about the role Facebook misinformation could play in the 2022 midterms and beyond," states the CNN report.

In other words, despite its notoriously censorial standpoint against conservatives and Trump supporters, CNN needs to ban and blacklist even more anti-leftist content before 2022.
The entire farce is just CNN lobbying for more censorship and since Facebook is completely in bed with Democrats and the deep state, they'll be sure to get it.

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https://summit.news/2021/06/25/emails-show-biden-campaign-pressured-facebook-to-censor-trump-before-the-election/

I read it another way too. It seems that this story could be dual purpose because it also leaves the impression that Facebook was not the 100% complicit agent of the Democrats. The story seems duplicitous in that you can take comfort that Facebook can and probably will do more to curb conservative speech if you are on the left while simultaneously thinking that Facebook is not that onerous since the administration is 'furious' with them for not doing more if you are on the right. The piece seems to give cover to Facebook on both sides. Maybe I'm reading to much into it

But, since it is CNN reporting, the only thing I know for sure is that whatever their intention, this story is not honest or genuine.

You mean like Zeff Zients, who lead Biden's transition team and now heads his covid response? The same Jeff that was on the freaking BOARD of Facebook?



The same Jeff than made billions leading Advisory Board (before it sold to United Healthcare) to help healthcare systems win under the ACA, which of course he designed under Obama. And then served as Obama's head over budgets.


Big Tech is completely run by the swamp

Thread about the DOJ suing GA.

The DOJ's complaint against Georgia is surreal.... pic.twitter.com/wlLpVb6U8q

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) June 25, 2021

Back to AZ.

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It appears that the Arizona audit has finally finished with the paper evaluation phase and they are now removing tables from the floor as they vacate the coliseum.

Volunteers slammed a box closed and everyone cheered in celebration. We believe this was the last box.

There are only a few volunteers on the floor completing the quality control checks.

The audit team is still lacking the subpoenaed routers, logs and passwords, so litigation is expected in order to obtain that information. They will need this information to complete the full forensic audit. Legislative subpoenas for this data were issued on January 13, 2021.

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Christina Bobb reported on One America News that she anticipates the results will be released in two phases. On Monday we may see a preliminary report, which details the accuracy of the number of certified ballots. Next, we should expect to see a full forensic report which details of the forensic images and ballot findings.

Upon release of the forensic report, we will know if Attorney General Brnovich needs to get involved and pursue an investigation.

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WOW!

The DOJ’s lawsuit against Georgia’s election integrity laws is the most racist piece of pleading propaganda that I’ve seen outside of history books. https://t.co/jc7lgEO2F9

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) June 25, 2021

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The audit team is still lacking the subpoenaed routers, logs and passwords, so litigation is expected in order to obtain that information. They will need this information to complete the full forensic audit. Legislative subpoenas for this data were issued on January 13, 2021.

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No worries, Pro V&V looked at 5 voting machines and didn't see any Internet logs.....should be all good here.

DHCP saved them from hackers.....wink, wink.

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64. According to the Cobb County Elections Director, 60 percent of the absentee ballots returned in Cobb County during the November 2020 election were placed in a drop box.3 After drop boxes' widespread use in the November 2020 election, some metro-Atlanta counties, like DeKalb County, added more drop boxes for the January 2021 runoff election.

65. The rejection rate for late-arriving absentee ballots dropped substantially in 2020, compared to past elections.

66. In recent elections, late ballots were disproportionately cast by Black voters.

67. SB 202 requires each county to have one drop box, but limits additional drop boxes to "the lesser of either one drop box for every 100,000 active registered voters in the county or the number of advance voting locations in the county." SB 202 26.

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Sixty percent? New procedure, instituted the year of the election but sixty percent came from drop boxes in Cobb County alone??

That should be a red flag.

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Explains why that political hack at DOJ is suing the state.

I'm sure Cobb and DeKalb have some dirty laundry that needs to be aired out, but if they just did a full forensic audit on Fulton county alone, it was more than enough to overturn GA's POTUS and Senate results.

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WOW!

The DOJ’s lawsuit against Georgia’s election integrity laws is the most racist piece of pleading propaganda that I’ve seen outside of history books. https://t.co/jc7lgEO2F9

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) June 25, 2021

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What a joke. They should be laughed out of court.

But we live in clown world now, so who knows.

None of these things are legal arguments.

The argument from the progressive marxists is that many many un-monitored and insecure drop boxes is good and few drop boxes in racist Jim Crow 2.0. .... I just don't understand.. the drop boxes are for mail-in ballots in which the voter: 1. was too lazy or scared to vote early in person, 2. was too lazy or scared to vote on election day in person 3. but wasn't too lazy to request a mail-in ballot ahead of time, 4. but then was too lazy to mail in their mail-in ballot... There really shouldn't be hundreds of thousands or a million voters in any county in the US that fit all 4 of these criteria. There really is no excuse to spend $$$ to monitor a bunch of drop boxes all over every county. There really is no excuse to choose to have un-monitored, insecure drop boxes all over every county. How is it racist Jim Crow 2.0 to have one or a few drop boxes for what should be only a relatively small number of people who requested mail-in but didn't drop in the mail on time?

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WOW!

The DOJ’s lawsuit against Georgia’s election integrity laws is the most racist piece of pleading propaganda that I’ve seen outside of history books. https://t.co/jc7lgEO2F9

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) June 25, 2021

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What a joke. They should be laughed out of court.

But we live in clown world now, so who knows.

None of these things are legal arguments.

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They filed in the Northern District of Georgia instead of DC.

Maybe they draw Judge Totenberg? That would be sweet.

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WOW!

The DOJ’s lawsuit against Georgia’s election integrity laws is the most racist piece of pleading propaganda that I’ve seen outside of history books. https://t.co/jc7lgEO2F9

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) June 25, 2021

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What a joke. They should be laughed out of court.

But we live in clown world now, so who knows.

None of these things are legal arguments.

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They filed in the Northern District of Georgia instead of DC.

Maybe they draw Judge Totenberg? That would be sweet.

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This Judge Totenberg?

Judge Yet Again Denies Request To Move Georgia To Hand-Marked Paper Ballots October 11, 2020 5:00 PM

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"The Court recognizes the major challenges facing the Secretary of State's Office in rapidly implementing a new statewide voting system," she wrote. "Yet the vital issues identified in this case will not disappear or be appropriately addressed without focused State attention, resources, ongoing serious evaluation by independent cybersecurity experts, and open-mindedness."
Totenberg previously ruled against ditching electronic voting three other times in 2018, 2019 and earlier in 2020.
"While Plaintiffs have shown the threat of real harms to their constitutional interests, the eleventh-hour timing of their motions and an instant grant of the paper ballot relief requested could just as readily jeopardize the upcoming elections, voter turnout, and the orderly administration of the election," Totenberg wrote two years ago.

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Yes her. That hearing and her opinion were just days before early voting started. Issuing the injunction would cause chaos. Even more chaos that what occurred. The delays on the evidentiary hearing were all caused by Raffensperger and Dominion refusing to comply with court orders, BTW. They drug it out as long as they could.

Experts had less than 24 hours to inspect and prepare and give live testimony. Dominion still lost in the findings of fact but Totenberg was time constrained in which remedy she could provide.

Instead, she wrote 147 page opinion excoriating Dominion Voting Systems as a POS.

I know we are disappointed in the Supreme Court, Third Circuit, and various other judges at the District Court and state level as well.

I'm just glad there's one Judge out there that still can be counted on to be neutral. Unlike all the rest of the judiciary who issued orders we didn't like.

Edit: This is in no way meant to disparage Judge Totenberg's findings or orders. I imagine they're every bit as well considered as the other Federal judges' orders across the nation. Just sharing a chuckle that this specific federal Judge's orders bear deference, unlike the others.

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I know we are disappointed in the Supreme Court, Third Circuit, and various other judges at the District Court and state level as well.

I'm just glad there's one Judge out there that still can be counted on to be neutral. Unlike all the rest of the judiciary who issued orders we didn't like.

Edit: This is in no way meant to disparage Judge Totenberg's findings or orders. I imagine they're every bit as well considered as the other Federal judges' orders across the nation. Just sharing a chuckle that this specific federal Judge's orders bear deference, unlike the others.

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Difference being this case went on for a few years and she actually heard the evidence. Imagine that! A judge listening to the evidence and making findings of fact on that basis. Much of that 147 page opinion is a recitation of that testimony. Quite illuminating, actually. She points out where Coomer (Dominion) and Comb (Pro V&V) each submitted false affidavits to her court that they had to recant under cross examination.

For you IANAL types, that means they lied under oath to the court.

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Yes her. That hearing and her opinion were just days before early voting started. Issuing the injunction would cause chaos. Even more chaos that what occurred. The delays on the evidentiary hearing were all caused by Raffensperger and Dominion refusing to comply with court orders, BTW. They drug it out as long as they could.

Experts had less than 24 hours to inspect and prepare and give live testimony. Dominion still lost in the findings of fact but Totenberg was time constrained in which remedy she could provide.

Instead, she wrote 147 page opinion excoriating Dominion Voting Systems as a POS.

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Thanks for the reply.

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No clean hands anymore.